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Jun 27, 2016 13:14:04   #
Cool Breeze
 
Super Dave wrote:
You're mistaken. The Indians only had guns after we sold guns to them. That means we also had them. And we had more of them. Therefore, I would be in no danger.

Thanks for carring.


It wouldn't be the Indians you would have to worry about? Did you know that several soldiers who participated in that Massacre received The Medal of Honor? So much for the 2A eh?

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Jun 27, 2016 15:50:35   #
erniebanks14
 
I hope you're right!
Super Dave wrote:
Fortunately the military is almost entirely made of patriots.

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Jun 27, 2016 16:00:51   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Super Dave wrote:
As to the other militarized units of the government.. I can't speculate.

I recall the ATF some years ago being questionable, and the IRS is clearly got it's bad apples. But I don't know about the other groups.


Would the other groups include the EPA? They recently bought up a bunch of weapons and ammo. So many of them that don't need to be armed have been arming since Obama took over.

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Jun 27, 2016 16:04:16   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
It wouldn't be the Indians you would have to worry about? Did you know that several soldiers who participated in that Massacre received The Medal of Honor? So much for the 2A eh?


Tepid Breath, is there any chance that the Indians of 1890 weren't considered citizens ? I know that some of you left leaners don't know that there has been a lousy extension of Constitutional rights to people who aren't citizens but it has happened. Did you know that somewhere around 20 soldiers were killed during that "battle"? If not maybe you should read the link I provided in the first post here.

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Jun 27, 2016 16:08:46   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
PeterS wrote:
Wounded Knee was the result of whites wanting the Indian dead. It was a political decision as the result of public outcry so I doubt Obama has any plans of massacre old white people. And I have to ask, armed or not do you think the Indian ever stood a chance? They stood as much of a chance as you would in resisting the government. The founders wanted a militia instead of a freestanding army specifically because it was the army that would be used to suppress the people. But the conservatives in our country never seem to feel secure so want, no demand, the we build the most deadly military ever created by the hands of man. Well you got it and all you have are measly excuses for assault rifles to protect yourselves against it. That gives you about as much of a chance as those poor saps at Wounded Knee.

It's not gun control that you need to worry about but the fact that you conservatives never seem to think about the consequences of your actions. If you are truly afraid of government you don't demand that government create the deadliest military this planet has ever seen. And you especially don't sit there and think an AR-15 is going to provide you some sort of protection against it if a tyrant decides to use it against you.

Here's the thing. If Obama wanted your white asses he would have already got them. That fact that you are still here with the freedom to fear mongering is a pretty good indication that you are safe. Unless of course, you want to pull out you AR-15's and start a war. Just remember, as you are pulling that trigger the cop across from you isn't going to know if you are a "patriot" or an ISIS traitor and for you it won't matter because dead will be most certainly dead....
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You keep on making noise about AR-15 which makes me wonder if you know a lot about guns and their ammo. The AR-15 shoots a round that is .223 and wouldn't do a lot toward injury. Didn't you manage to hear any of the people who were shot 3 and 4 times by the coward? I wonder why they weren't injured a bit more. My M1 Carbine would do much more damage in that situation than that AR-15. If I had my choice I would much prefer the M1 rifle of WW II. If you don't know the caliber of those two rifles is .30 and they were made to kill not to wound like the .223. I would rather have my son's .22 magnum since it hits so much harder than those AR-15s.

Do you know how many million M1s were returned to the US by Korea a couple of years ago? I think that plans from the Obama administration made not selling them to civilians had a reason and wonder if they didn't want us to have the guns even though they would have known just where they were located.

I don't plan to be a Lakota Souix when they come after my weapons. I don't expect to live through it but I will not hand my guns over to them waiting for them to shoot me.

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Jun 27, 2016 16:22:09   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
You really need be ashamed of yourself with that historical revisionist blabber. The Massacre at Wounded Knew has nothing to do with The Second Amendment for the Indians were considered as Savages! Personally I would rather hear an Native American perspective of what happened. http://www.lastoftheindependents.com/wounded.htm I bet you won't a peep about some stinking Second Amendment!
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I see that you didn't read the link I provided to learn a bit more about Wounded Knee. Get back there and take a chance. Lets see now, you say the Indians were considered savages so killable. Obama has said that most of us of the conservative, white people are extremists. Wouldn't that cause us to be killable?

When you talk about all that revisionist blabber it gets to be very obvious that you think if it weren't written by a liberal it is all lies, right?

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Jun 27, 2016 16:27:21   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
vettelover wrote:
Remember, in the 20th century alone, 300+ million human beings were slaughtered by the Socialist, Communist and the Fascist. After Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao and other famous political murders first put forth a registration to see who had weapons and then they systematically exterminated their own citizens. There are people still living today that are survivors of these events. The same tactics used then and still being used today.

Bill Ayes (Obama's associate and domestic terrorist) has been quoted that 25 million or more Americans will have to be killed in order to bring down the United States.

The progressive elites have already etched in stone at the Georgia Guidestones outside Atlanta their intentions for humanity. Demanding the population be reduced to 500 million serfs in the name of mother earth. They also plan on a one world religion, run by a one world central government.

I am not a conspiracy guy. I take these people at their word. With all that said and history always cones full circle, I will keep my Bill of Rights, thank you.
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Most of our left leaners don't seem to understand that the reason Obama needs our guns and the removal of Amendment 2 is that he knows most of us have seen the light concerning the way Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin took away their peoples' guns and then enslaved them was done without anything like the 2nd Amendment to protect the people from tyrannical governments. The post War tyrants like Pol Pot, and the others in southeast Asia all used that method. Our Constitution has always been our protection against a tyrannical government but so many of out progressive friends don't seem to be able to understand that.

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Jun 27, 2016 16:55:20   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
oldroy wrote:
Does anybody remember the Dutchman from a couple of years ago? He posted this post on the site he now writes on and I found it to be very true. He took his story from Wikipedia and I find it to be very true. Let me suggest that you read this link as it seems to be very true also. http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2016/01/01/truth-about-wounded-knee-massacre-162923

Here are Dutch's words. Is there a chance that he is right, and maybe very right about Barack and his crowd?




The obozo caught in yet another of his lies!
Worst mass killing in the history of the United States of America ? Not in Orlando!
A little historical correction might be in order regarding the "Worst Mass Shooting in American History". This is incorrect.

This is what I have found: THE LARGEST MASS SHOOTING IN US HISTORY HAPPENED December 29, 1890. When 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection”.

The slaughter began after the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms. The Calvary began shooting and managed to wipe out the entire camp. 200 of the 297 victims were women and children. Wounded Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United States history. It ended in the senseless murder of 297 people.

The Second Amendment, the right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of invading armies or an oppressive government. The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe, and it refers to the right of American citizens to be armed for defensive purposes, should such tyranny arise in the United States.

Wounded Knee is the prime example of why the Second Amendment exists, and why we should vehemently resist any attempts to infringe on our Rights to Bear Arms. Without the Second Amendment we will be totally stripped of any ability to defend ourselves and our families. When this president wants to talk about “Gun Control”, he needs to keep the facts straight.

Along with Gun Control, comes death to those that it is supposed to protect. Just take a quick look back at how Hitler used Gun Control to “protect” the citizens in Europe. Once they turned in their firearms, “for their own protection”, they couldn’t stop what he had planned from the beginning. Gun Control leaves you defenseless. Keep it straight, speak the truth!
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...I'LL ASK AGAIN, WHERE AND WHO GAVE THE INDIANS GUNS? WERE THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS VIOLATED...and then after the fact, we blame the victims...with great arguments...like: you shouldn't have been there? You deserve to die because:

F___king nonsense.

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Jun 27, 2016 17:19:08   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
This is the best I can find on how native Americans armed themselves in the 19th century.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.truewestmagazine.com/weapons-of-the-indian-wars/&ved=0ahUKEwiPyNjVkMnNAhVC7yYKHTogDYkQFggpMAM&usg=AFQjCNGQcF6CooLy7gRNkJ7a91o_-00tgQ

Dummy Boy wrote:
...I'LL ASK AGAIN, WHERE AND WHO GAVE THE INDIANS GUNS? WERE THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS VIOLATED...and then after the fact, we blame the victims...with great arguments...like: you shouldn't have been there? You deserve to die because:

F___king nonsense.

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Jun 27, 2016 20:35:56   #
eccentrie
 
I believe that several years ago the media released info about Social Security Offices being weaponized. I remember thinking about that. Most recipients of SS receive their money via bank deposit or check-in-the-mail. WHO would be showing up to pick up a monthly check? >only those who don't have bank accounts. WHY would the Feds want to have a H U G E cache of weapons & ammo in SS offices?
Storage is owned by the Federal Gov't. >No one in private sector involved for security reasons.
DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR WEAPONS & AMMO. We are not living in the Republic my Uncle died for or my parents & husband served. Lock & Load for the children & PRAY for Guidance.

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Jun 27, 2016 21:40:03   #
Cool Breeze
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
There may be truth there but I confess I found the Dutchman to be despicable.


If OPP POSTERS loved him. He was a POS! There is no dispute.

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Jun 27, 2016 22:53:50   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
If OPP POSTERS loved him. He was a POS! There is no dispute.


If I qualify as a pile of Pelosi in your thinking then you sure would have disliked Dutch. Of course, he would have returned your feelings.

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Jun 27, 2016 23:03:56   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
There may be truth there but I confess I found the Dutchman to be despicable.


I missed your reply there Tom, but let me say that although Dutch is pretty conservative he served his 20+ years in the US Navy and now uses his 1st Amendment rights to talks about the left as he sees them. Despicable, I don't agree although, I don't always agree with him.

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Jun 28, 2016 00:51:04   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
oldroy wrote:
I missed your reply there Tom, but let me say that although Dutch is pretty conservative he served his 20+ years in the US Navy and now uses his 1st Amendment rights to talks about the left as he sees them. Despicable, I don't agree although, I don't always agree with him.
He spoke very hatefully about Veterans on disability as whiners faking their injurys to get benefits and that was the reason he stopped volunteering at a VA hospital. It ticked me off and he would not apologize for his remarks. I can't respect that . I am a veteran though not disabled. I have some close friends who are. Ralph the medic Danny the truck driver. John the Marine Rocky from artillery. Each man served with valor and deserve the disability payments they receive. He can KMA.

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Jun 28, 2016 01:03:17   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
PeterS wrote:
Wounded Knee was the result of whites wanting the Indian dead. It was a political decision as the result of public outcry so I doubt Obama has any plans of massacre old white people. And I have to ask, armed or not do you think the Indian ever stood a chance? They stood as much of a chance as you would in resisting the government. The founders wanted a militia instead of a freestanding army specifically because it was the army that would be used to suppress the people. But the conservatives in our country never seem to feel secure so want, no demand, the we build the most deadly military ever created by the hands of man. Well you got it and all you have are measly excuses for assault rifles to protect yourselves against it. That gives you about as much of a chance as those poor saps at Wounded Knee.

It's not gun control that you need to worry about but the fact that you conservatives never seem to think about the consequences of your actions. If you are truly afraid of government you don't demand that government create the deadliest military this planet has ever seen. And you especially don't sit there and think an AR-15 is going to provide you some sort of protection against it if a tyrant decides to use it against you.

Here's the thing. If Obama wanted your white asses he would have already got them. That fact that you are still here with the freedom to fear mongering is a pretty good indication that you are safe. Unless of course, you want to pull out you AR-15's and start a war. Just remember, as you are pulling that trigger the cop across from you isn't going to know if you are a "patriot" or an ISIS traitor and for you it won't matter because dead will be most certainly dead....
Wounded Knee was the result of whites wanting the ... (show quote)


You had to be missing in action when brains were issued to your crew.

Unlike YOU..some of us here are in touch (communicate) often with those in active duty, (family members) and friends. There is no doubt at all the majority of those currently serving in the Military absolutely HATE Obama. He may attempt to hatch his plans all the way, however he would find out he also would have to be "ducking and dodging"....and frankly it is amazing that someone has not already dropped him off a tall building or hung him on the White House lawn. There is not one person in the History of Mankind what has been more evil, criminal, worthless, Traitor then Obama. Obama is the prime example of total corruption. Democrats LOVE following any felon or traitor..it is part of the democratic oath!

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