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Jun 19, 2016 08:19:07   #
PeterS
 
oldroy wrote:
I have to wonder where these Brooklynites get their information about what is going on around them. They sound like very simple minded fools who want only to blame guns and Republicans for Orlando. Poor slobs just never did hear the words of Mateen about ISIS and all the rest. If these people are any indication of how people in NYC and its environs think we may be in real trouble.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/ami-horowitz-its-not-islam-bro


What about all the shooting that weren't committed by a Muslim? What religion do we attribute those shooting to as they caused far more carnage. Or do we just care about those that fit our political agenda...

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Jun 19, 2016 08:51:46   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
What about all the shooting that weren't committed by a Muslim? What religion do we attribute those shooting to as they caused far more carnage. Or do we just care about those that fit our political agenda...


As a matter of fact, the FBI has interesting stats. It seems that blacks commit just about half of the murders in this country, usually against other blacks. As a matter of fact, black males between the ages of 15 and 35, about 5%, (maybe ) of the population commit this number of crimes. more than half of the murder victims in this country are black, even though they are only 13% of the population, and almost 95% of the time, their murderer is another black. They just do it retail instead of wholesale. As I mentioned before, which is worse? 200 people killed in mass shootings, or 2000 killed in ones and two's?
In the last five years, nearly all of the mass shootings were committed in gun free zones.
The Beltway Sniper was Muslim.
The Ft Hood Shooter was Muslim.
The Chattanooga shooters? Muslim.
The failed attack at Garland TX? Muslim
San Bernadino? Muslim.
Orlando? Muslim.
Before I forget; the Oregon school shooter? Muslim.

How many white conservative males have committed these mass shootings? How many NRA members? Hell, how many Republicans?
The Aurora shooter was a Democratic voter who was a former Obama campaign worker.
The Sandy Hook shooter was apparently unaffiliated.
Chris Dorner, the cop in California who went crazy? Democrat.
White conservative males are not the problem. Neither are NRA members. Neither are Republicans. Most mass shootings have been perpetrated by Muslims, and/or Democrats, at least in the past few years.

Why don't you regale us with some statistics that show how many mass shootings were committed by Republican NRA members?
In the past 20 years, my state of GA has issued well over 600,000 carry permits. In that time, less than 100 permitees have committed a gun crime. Not just murder, gun crime.
0.0166666667% Pay attention to that number. That is the tiny, tiny fraction of one percent of permit holders in GA in a 20 year period who have committed gun crimes.
Texas in 2013, the latest year I was able to access definitive data: 497 convictions for murder/manslaughter. One was a permit holder.
He was a Democrat.

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Jun 19, 2016 08:54:34   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Loki wrote:
What's with this "we" stuff? "WE" are not the ones in trouble. The idiots in NYC are. Anyone who would live there by choice has got to have several screws loose, anyway.


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Very true

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Jun 19, 2016 10:19:01   #
bahmer
 
robmull wrote:
This is who the SDS, "red-diaper" radicals [Bill Ayers, "WU" crowd] of the late '60's ran off to teach; to get political jobs. And along came "BHB"!!! Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!





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Jun 19, 2016 11:05:39   #
littlebit
 
PeterS wrote:
What about all the shooting that weren't committed by a Muslim? What religion do we attribute those shooting to as they caused far more carnage. Or do we just care about those that fit our political agenda...
You go back to the facts. Do your research and investigate who is doing the shootings. Then you restrict these people from having guns. Here's one last you need to look at.

In 1865, John Wilkes Booth, a left wing radical democrat, shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

In 1881, Charles Julius Guiteau, a left wing radical democrat, shot James Garfield, President of the United States, who later died.

In 1949, Howard Barton Unruh, a left wing radical democrat, shot and killed 13 people on the streets of Camden, NJ.

In 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald, a radical left wing socialist, shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

In 1966, Charles Joseph Whitman, a left wing radical democrat, shot and killed 16 people from top of University of Texas in Austin.

In 1975, an effort by Charles Manson Family cult member Lynette Alice “Squeaky” Fromme to kill U.S. President Gerald Ford in California. She wanted to make a statement to people who refused to halt environmental pollution and its effects on Air, Trees, Water, and Animals (ATWA). A true left wing radical socialist democrat, fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

In 1983, John Warnock Hinkley Jr., a registered democrat, shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

In 1984, James Oliver Huberty, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

In 1986, Patrick Henry Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 14 people in an Oklahoma post office hence “going postal.”

In 1990, James Edward “Pop” Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office in Florida.

In 1991, George Pierre Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria.

In 1991, Roderick Davie, a left wing radical democrat, shot and killed 2 co-workers at a pet supply store in Ohio.

In 1995, James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

In 1999, Larry Gene Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a church service.

In 2001, Vladimir Arutyunian, a left wing radical Communist fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US .

In 2003, Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

In 2010, Omar Sheriff Thornton, a left wing radical muslim democrat, shot and killed 8 “white” co-workers in Manchester, Connecticut.

In 2010, a registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

In 2011, a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis .

In 2013, Adam Lanza, whose mom was a registered Democrat, shot and killed 26 people in a school.

As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

No NRA member, Tea Party member, Conservative or Republicans were involved.

SOLUTION: It should be illegal for any person leaning to the left wing of politics to own guns.


This would be a great start.
It's not the gun it's the one that possesses the gun.

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Jun 19, 2016 11:15:29   #
bahmer
 
littlebit wrote:
You go back to the facts. Do your research and investigate who is doing the shootings. Then you restrict these people from having guns. Here's one last you need to look at.

In 1865, John Wilkes Booth, a left wing radical democrat, shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

In 1881, Charles Julius Guiteau, a left wing radical democrat, shot James Garfield, President of the United States, who later died.

In 1949, Howard Barton Unruh, a left wing radical democrat, shot and killed 13 people on the streets of Camden, NJ.

In 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald, a radical left wing socialist, shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

In 1966, Charles Joseph Whitman, a left wing radical democrat, shot and killed 16 people from top of University of Texas in Austin.

In 1975, an effort by Charles Manson Family cult member Lynette Alice “Squeaky” Fromme to kill U.S. President Gerald Ford in California. She wanted to make a statement to people who refused to halt environmental pollution and its effects on Air, Trees, Water, and Animals (ATWA). A true left wing radical socialist democrat, fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

In 1983, John Warnock Hinkley Jr., a registered democrat, shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

In 1984, James Oliver Huberty, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

In 1986, Patrick Henry Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 14 people in an Oklahoma post office hence “going postal.”

In 1990, James Edward “Pop” Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office in Florida.

In 1991, George Pierre Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria.

In 1991, Roderick Davie, a left wing radical democrat, shot and killed 2 co-workers at a pet supply store in Ohio.

In 1995, James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

In 1999, Larry Gene Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a church service.

In 2001, Vladimir Arutyunian, a left wing radical Communist fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US .

In 2003, Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

In 2010, Omar Sheriff Thornton, a left wing radical muslim democrat, shot and killed 8 “white” co-workers in Manchester, Connecticut.

In 2010, a registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

In 2011, a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis .

In 2013, Adam Lanza, whose mom was a registered Democrat, shot and killed 26 people in a school.

As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

No NRA member, Tea Party member, Conservative or Republicans were involved.

SOLUTION: It should be illegal for any person leaning to the left wing of politics to own guns.


This would be a great start.
It's not the gun it's the one that possesses the gun.
You go back to the facts. Do your research and inv... (show quote)





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Jun 19, 2016 12:11:35   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
RETW wrote:
I strapped my gum on this morning, went to town, I was there doing some banking and shopping. Got the car lubed, went to lunch. Seen an early movie. Had coffee with a retired Cop friend of mine, He also carries. And not one time during the whole day I was in town, did my gun get out of its holster and shoot any one. Nope, not once. I checked. It just stayed in its holster where I put it. And when I got home, I put it back in my gun safe. It never complained all day. Imagine that.

RETW

I strapped my gum on this morning, went to town, I... (show quote)



That should be, " strapped my ( gun ) on this morning." Sorry about that. Not seeing well, is part of what I don't like about getting older.



RETW


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Jun 19, 2016 12:13:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
RETW wrote:
That should be, " strapped my ( gun ) on this morning." Sorry about that. Not seeing well, is part of what I don't like about getting older.



RETW

That should be, " strapped my ( gun ) on thi... (show quote)


My doctor said my eyes belonged on a twenty year old. He was nice enough not to mention the rest belongs on a 120 year old. I have been rode hard and put up wet too many times.

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Jun 19, 2016 12:14:17   #
Big Bass
 
RETW wrote:
That should be, " strapped my ( gun ) on this morning." Sorry about that. Not seeing well, is part of what I don't like about getting older.



RETW

That should be, " strapped my ( gun ) on thi... (show quote)

Oh! I thought you had false teeth.

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Jun 19, 2016 12:25:36   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
PeterS wrote:
What about all the shooting that weren't committed by a Muslim? What religion do we attribute those shooting to as they caused far more carnage. Or do we just care about those that fit our political agenda...




When is the last time you ever heard of any one, killing someone in this country, in the name of God? You"re the one who has a political agenda.





RETW

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Jun 19, 2016 12:29:48   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
Loki wrote:
My doctor said my eyes belonged on a twenty year old. He was nice enough not to mention the rest belongs on a 120 year old. I have been rode hard and put up wet too many times.




What do they say about being in the same pot so to speak? Thanks loki. Have a great day, OK.

RETW


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Jun 19, 2016 12:33:27   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
Big Bass wrote:
Oh! I thought you had false teeth.






Ha Ha, as a matter of fact. ????????????

RETW


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Jun 19, 2016 12:52:14   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
hprinze wrote:
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A gun did not kill anyone in Orlando, a muslim did


hprinze-go one step further-a Radical Islamist Terrorist did the killing. Not all Muslims are bad but not enough good Muslims speak out against those who have been or are being radicalized. It is ironic that Mateen attended the same Mosque as the American suicide bomber so when will the Imam be questioned ? Is the current Imam the same person who was there when the suicide bomber attended ? Good Luck America !!!

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Jun 19, 2016 13:18:47   #
Carol Kelly
 
oldroy wrote:
I have to wonder where these Brooklynites get their information about what is going on around them. They sound like very simple minded fools who want only to blame guns and Republicans for Orlando. Poor slobs just never did hear the words of Mateen about ISIS and all the rest. If these people are any indication of how people in NYC and its environs think we may be in real trouble.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/ami-horowitz-its-not-islam-bro


Go ahead. Believe it! I think we who are on opps are the only sensible people in this country. Not all of us, of course. When their heads are bing lopped off, they'll believe.
It will be just a little late for eye openings.

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Jun 19, 2016 13:19:08   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
Ricko wrote:
hprinze-go one step further-a Radical Islamist Terrorist did the killing. Not all Muslims are bad but not enough good Muslims speak out against those who have been or are being radicalized. It is ironic that Mateen attended the same Mosque as the American suicide bomber so when will the Imam be questioned ? Is the current Imam the same person who was there when the suicide bomber attended ? Good Luck America !!!








Whatever method {radical} Islam [the ramming "bow" of Islam], uses to forward Islam, ANY opposition by ANY person [Muslim or non-Muslim], is punishable by 7th century torture and death; not just for the offending person, but occasionally the entire family. It is a very serious "jihad" against ALL non-Muslims [now in the Western free-market cultures], but destined to a "world domination," that should [has to] be brought to a screeching-halt right here and right now!!! The longer the cancer is permitted to metastasize in the "host," the more damage will be done. Terror is a cancer and the "Crusades" [for radical Islam] will not end until the entire planet has been rid, eliminated of sub-human "infidels." That's "US!!!" Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

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