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Jun 2, 2016 14:11:45   #
Radiance3
 
J Anthony wrote:
Fine, so lets learn from our mistakes and stop giving rich businessmen with questionable ethics and practices control over what's supposed to be a representative government! Running a sovereign government for a diverse, populous nation is not the same thing as running a private business, nor should it be. Will we ever understand this?

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That is why our government is so large corrupt and now sinking the USA down to the deep. Immoralities now rule the political correctness. The Constitution has been replaced by the new PC of the government who once envisioned to level the playing field. Regardless whether you work very hard or you just free load, this government that we have now wants everybody to be the equal. If everybody will free load, then who will feed them? The government depends on what the hard working people earn. Without that, they government like NK will beat and enslave the people to work to feed the power that enslaves those who work. That is where we are heading. EXECUTIVE ORDERS that ignore the balance of power. Congress and the SC will be irrelevant.

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Jun 2, 2016 14:13:08   #
CarolSeer2016
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Your so wrong. Hillary is a Marxist in democrat clothing. Check out her background as far back as 1971. Saul Alinsky, marxist. Wrote her college thesis on good ole' Saul, author "Rules for Radicals" Did her internship for two lawyers, members of the Communist party in Oakland. http://www.nysun.com/national/hillary-clintons-radical-summer/66933/ Please read this, Alicia.


Have you ever read "Rules for Radicals"? Especially ol' Saul's explication of "means and end". And how to use "...their morals against them." Suits Mrs. Clinton to a Tee.

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Jun 2, 2016 14:35:11   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
J Anthony wrote:
That was then, this is now. Many Democrats with leftist roots did a 180 back in the 1990s under Bill Clinton's "Third Way" corporatism, bending over backwards to appeal to conservative voters, and as a result today's Democrat party-establishment is hardly progressive. They sold-out long ago.


Haven't you guys figured out there is only one political party in the US. That is the corporate party. The democrat establishment is merely its left arm and the republican establishment is merely its right arm. Both arms are controlled by Wall Street banks and corporations. They normally don't care which arm's candidate the voting sheople put in office, as the establishment will still call the shots. Trump, with his populist ascent, is not controlled by that establishment and is scaring the hell out of them. The debt continues rising and out of control, the US is always in a continual state of illegal, unConstiutional, immoral warmongering or selling weapons to foreign countries, whether friend or enemy, both for billions in profits for the military industrial corporations and banks, a shrinking middle class, the elite 1% continue year in and year out to get richer no matter what the economy is doing, which is why I think it and the stock market are purposely manipulated, banking, big pharma and health insurance write their own legislation, illegal immigration...on and on never changes does it? No matter which arm (dem or repub) is in the majority in DC. 40 years of a bush or clinton in the White House or administration, what has been the difference, other than the rhetoric (LIES)? Why do the sheople want bitch clinton? She is just another establishment puppet and will continue all of the above.
Trump doesn't even have a sorry record holding a public office for which to judge him by. Clinton's is so sorry I don't know how anyone could be stupid enough to support her. I'll gamble on Trump to maybe change the direction this country is headed.

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Jun 2, 2016 14:42:47   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
oldroy wrote:
Quick, introduce yourself to Alicia since you are one of those left leaning Democrats that I didn't mention.


I'm not a Democrat- never have been. I may "lean left" from where you sit, but if I had to label myself, which I don't like doing for obvious reasons, I'd say I am an independent conservative-egalitarian.

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Jun 2, 2016 14:44:50   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
buffalo wrote:
Haven't you guys figured out there is only one political party in the US. That is the corporate party. The democrat establishment is merely its left arm and the republican establishment is merely its right arm. Both arms are controlled by Wall Street banks and corporations. They normally don't care which arm's candidate the voting sheople put in office, as the establishment will still call the shots. Trump, with his populist ascent, is not controlled by that establishment and is scaring the hell out of them. The debt continues rising and out of control, the US is always in a continual state of illegal, unConstiutional, immoral warmongering or selling weapons to foreign countries, whether friend or enemy, both for billions in profits for the military industrial corporations and banks, a shrinking middle class, the elite 1% continue year in and year out to get richer no matter what the economy is doing, which is why I think it and the stock market are purposely manipulated, banking, big pharma and health insurance write their own legislation, illegal immigration...on and on never changes does it? No matter which arm (dem or repub) is in the majority in DC. 40 years of a bush or clinton in the White House or administration, what has been the difference, other than the rhetoric (LIES)? Why do the sheople want bitch clinton? She is just another establishment puppet and will continue all of the above.
Trump doesn't even have a sorry record holding a public office for which to judge him by. Clinton's is so sorry I don't know how anyone could be stupid enough to support her. I'll gamble on Trump to maybe change the direction this country is headed.
Haven't you guys figured out there is only one pol... (show quote)


I've been saying much the same for quite some time- that these are two factions of the same corporatist-party. I am not the one in denial of this reality.

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Jun 2, 2016 14:54:32   #
fullspinzoo
 
buffalo wrote:
Haven't you guys figured out there is only one political party in the US. That is the corporate party. The democrat establishment is merely its left arm and the republican establishment is merely its right arm. Both arms are controlled by Wall Street banks and corporations. They normally don't care which arm's candidate the voting sheople put in office, as the establishment will still call the shots. Trump, with his populist ascent, is not controlled by that establishment and is scaring the hell out of them. The debt continues rising and out of control, the US is always in a continual state of illegal, unConstiutional, immoral warmongering or selling weapons to foreign countries, whether friend or enemy, both for billions in profits for the military industrial corporations and banks, a shrinking middle class, the elite 1% continue year in and year out to get richer no matter what the economy is doing, which is why I think it and the stock market are purposely manipulated, banking, big pharma and health insurance write their own legislation, illegal immigration...on and on never changes does it? No matter which arm (dem or repub) is in the majority in DC. 40 years of a bush or clinton in the White House or administration, what has been the difference, other than the rhetoric (LIES)? Why do the sheople want bitch clinton? She is just another establishment puppet and will continue all of the above.
Trump doesn't even have a sorry record holding a public office for which to judge him by. Clinton's is so sorry I don't know how anyone could be stupid enough to support her. I'll gamble on Trump to maybe change the direction this country is headed.
Haven't you guys figured out there is only one pol... (show quote)

hey, Dense 2016 claims "he sent you packin". What a total POS. Can you imagine having to put up with his Socialist/Marxist/Communist bullshit in a classroom? I would walk out and demand my money back. Of course, they gave that other POS Bill Ayers a professorship. maybe dense 2016 is just a professor's assistant. That sounds more like it.

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Jun 2, 2016 15:04:47   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
Alicia wrote:
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Sure, Ricko. Trump, who says "America First" gets the shit he sells made in China! I noticed you were one of the first to respond.


Alicia - I have posted on this site a couple of years now and have never read such vile insults as those from liberals. Their attitude seems to emanate from a better-than-thou perspective. In lieu of their attitude, it never ceases to amaze me how liberals are unable to see the forest for the trees.

This morning, TV coverage of the gorilla who, unfortunately, had to be killed because a child accidentally fell into his habitat, was still rife. Comparisons were made to the coverage given that fatality vs. the 72% of murders and 88% rise in shootings of people in Chicago during the first three months of this year. Yes, that's true!! But why is it happening?
Democrat Mayor, Rahm Emanuel, former White House chief of staff to Obama, was elected mayor of Chicago in 2011. Why hasn't he gotten a handle on the violence in all this time. Could it be because, on July 7, 2012, Democrat Emanuel, announced a “Welcome to Chicago Ordinance” establishing the Windy City as a Sanctuary City for illegal aliens. Chicago thus joining some 60 localities across the United States that currently choose NOT to enforce the Federal Rule Of Law on DEPORTATION of illegal aliens. Or could it be because of the influx of Mexican gangs; drugs; illegal, unvetted aliens; the Obama Administration's release of tens of thousands of felons from our prisons - including murderers, kidnappers, rapists, and assaulters; otherwise known as - the Obama Administration's Fundamentally Changed America.

When it comes to Hillary, she is attempting to soften her callous remarks to the miners of West Virginia regarding the loss of their jobs by justifiying her comments. She mentions the prospect of jobs in "green energy" for the miners. Well, must we go down the list of the billions (yes, that's with a "B") of taxpayer dollars Democrat Obama lost; just an example - Solyndra, Solar, and the latest - which bills itself as the largest green energy company in the world, Sun Edison, now heading for bankruptcy. I fear the West Virginia miners would be waiting a looooooong time for those jobs.

Benghazi was Hillary's paradigm of "dereliction of duty;" Americans DIED because of her lack of response to the 600 pleas made by Ambassaor Stevens regarding the need for increased security at the Benghazi consulate. She actually DECREASED security! She TESTIFIED: "I did not see these requests. They did not come to me. I did not approve them. I did not deny them." WOW!!! If that was the truth, then she was too incompetent to be SOS, let alone President. What kind of State Department was she running anyway?

Now, for those women who consider Hillary their CHAMPION: Clinton's advocacy for women is so deceitful, so dishonest, that it defies credulity. Hillary is the champion of women's rights. Sure she is!!! The Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation has accepted tens of millions of dollars in donations from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Algeria and Brunei — all of which the State Department has faulted over their records on sex discrimination and other human-rights issues. WOMEN'S ADVOCATE? SHE IS A HYPOCRITE - A GREEDY HYPOCRITE.

Hillary's email scandal is indicative of her ruthlessness. Two phones were too much for her to carry, and so she has the temerity to justify that by ADMITTING it was "inconvenient" for her; a testament to her indifference toward the safety of our military. Our men and women on deployment have to carry from 60 to 90 lbs. of gear into combat and she would endanger them because two phones are an inconvenience? What kind of a mother is she? Did she consider, even for a moment, that in jeopardizing NATIONAL SECURITY by using an unsecured server, our soldiers could be injured, maimed, or even suffer the ultimate sacrifice? These are the same brave men and women who put their lives on the line for her?!! Did she, for a moment, question how imprudent it was to have Chelsea's wedding plans transferred over the same device as National Security - or did she even care "what difference it made?"

As far as what kind of a "lady" she is - try this on for size:
http://selwynduke.typepad.com/selwyndukecom/hillary-clintons-vulgar-m.html

Alicia - could you really watch with pride as Hillary and Bill stand in front of the White House revealing to the world that this is the best we can offer? I don't care what political party they have adopted - isn't the reputation of our America more valuable than the millions they have usurped from her? America deserves so much more that this corrupt couple who covet cash more than conscience.

Do I trust Trump? Well, at the very least I know he wasn't responsible for the deaths of any of our military and that's a heck of a lot more than I can say for Hillary or her ex-president of a husband.

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Jun 2, 2016 15:10:50   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
hey, Dense 2016 claims "he sent you packin". What a total POS. Can you imagine having to put up with his Socialist/Marxist/Communist bullshit in a classroom? I would walk out and demand my money back. Of course, they gave that other POS Bill Ayers a professorship. maybe dense 2016 is just a professor's assistant. That sounds more like it.


Yeah, he sure sent me packing. He went to his OPP safe space by putting me on his ignore list. He's the one hiding from me because he can't handle the truth. But I really don't give a shit. He is as phony as a barking cat.

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Jun 2, 2016 15:14:05   #
fullspinzoo
 
pos
buffalo wrote:
Yeah, he sure sent me packing. He went to his OPP safe space by putting me on his ignore list. He's the one hiding from me because he can't handle the truth. But I really don't give a shit. He is as phony as a barking cat.

i know. He's a total POS fraud.

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Jun 2, 2016 16:01:10   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
J Anthony wrote:
I'm not a Democrat- never have been. I may "lean left" from where you sit, but if I had to label myself, which I don't like doing for obvious reasons, I'd say I am an independent conservative-egalitarian.


I am not a Democrat either but used to vote for them all the time. In 1972 they nominated a man, George McGovern who surely was a socialist who I heard promise a number of California delegates to the DNC that he would work for a guaranteed annual wage of either $5200 or $5600 which was too much socialist thinking for me to accept. I promised myself that I would never vote for that man and that very night they nominated him. I never was a registered Democrat but didn't get to vote in any of our primaries because I wasn't registered. I have not voted, or even come close to voting, for a Democrat for President since that year because every one they nominated was always just a bit too much socialist for me.

I forgot, I was registered as a Democrat for about 2 months several years ago when I wanted to help a former student, a Democrat, get nominated for the State House of Representatives. I changed back as soon as the election was over.

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Jun 2, 2016 16:17:06   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
missinglink wrote:
One moron responding to another. What a great country
where you two can join in mutual defense of your wacko
far left loony tunes thoughts.
Group hug ya'll.







It just seems a little strange to me, ml, that the same people who are pushing for more "gun-control," are the same crowd who are trying to import un-vetted, undocumented "jihad" aged Muslim "refugee/terrorists" into America by the ton; but separating out ALL the Christians to stay in war-torn areas of the Middle East to be captured, enslaved, raped, sex-slaved, tortured, crucified and/or beheaded, or all of the above, in the current radical Islamic "Crusade." Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!

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Jun 2, 2016 16:34:14   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
oldroy wrote:
I am not a Democrat either but used to vote for them all the time. In 1972 they nominated a man, George McGovern who surely was a socialist who I heard promise a number of California delegates to the DNC that he would work for a guaranteed annual wage of either $5200 or $5600 which was too much socialist thinking for me to accept. I promised myself that I would never vote for that man and that very night they nominated him. I never was a registered Democrat but didn't get to vote in any of our primaries because I wasn't registered. I have not voted, or even come close to voting, for a Democrat for President since that year because every one they nominated was always just a bit too much socialist for me.

I forgot, I was registered as a Democrat for about 2 months several years ago when I wanted to help a former student, a Democrat, get nominated for the State House of Representatives. I changed back as soon as the election was over.
I am not a Democrat either but used to vote for th... (show quote)



roy, my father-in-law was a politically active Democrat. My husband told me that he would be fuming if he knew what had happened to his party. I guess we all have problems with our political party. I have my reservations about Trump, but I could never vote for a woman who is so cavalier about the lives of our military. There is something so noble about our men and women in uniform and so callous, cruel and mercenary about Clinton. I guess you probably saw that list of 90 people who were close to the Clintons and died UNNATURAL DEATHS. One or two you can accept as accidental - but 90 is just too convenient to be coincidental (and you know how these two feel about "convenience."

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Jun 2, 2016 16:52:17   #
Radiance3
 
robmull wrote:
It just seems a little strange to me, ml, that the same people who are pushing for more "gun-control," are the same crowd who are trying to import un-vetted, undocumented "jihad" aged Muslim "refugee/terrorists" into America by the ton; but separating out ALL the Christians to stay in war-torn areas of the Middle East to be captured, enslaved, raped, sex-slaved, tortured, crucified and/or beheaded, or all of the above, in the current radical Islamic "Crusade." Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!
It just seems a little strange to me, ml, that the... (show quote)


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Trump will get illegal Muslims out and return to Syria. They will have a place in their own land. The rich Muslim countries will have to fund them. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and those oil rich Muslim countries, spending their money supporting terrorists all over the world, and building thousands of mosques all over the US and Europe. Let them support their own people. When they are Muslims, they'll always be Muslims with the goals of killing, and raping Christians who feed them. Check what happened to Europe now. Merkel may just as well convert to a mullah.

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Jun 2, 2016 16:54:21   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Tradition wrote:
roy, my father-in-law was a politically active Democrat. My husband told me that he would be fuming if he knew what had happened to his party. I guess we all have problems with our political party. I have my reservations about Trump, but I could never vote for a woman who is so cavalier about the lives of our military. There is something so noble about our men and women in uniform and so callous, cruel and mercenary about Clinton. I guess you probably saw that list of 90 people who were close to the Clintons and died UNNATURAL DEATHS. One or two you can accept as accidental - but 90 is just too convenient to be coincidental (and you know how these two feel about "convenience."
roy, my father-in-law was a politically active Dem... (show quote)


I remember your list and have to agree with you completely.

I was never an active Democrat but I did vote for Kennedy.

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Jun 2, 2016 17:00:24   #
Nickolai
 
J Anthony wrote:
I've been saying much the same for quite some time- that these are two factions of the same corporatist-party. I am not the one in denial of this reality.









The only honest candidate and not connected to the establishment is Bernie Sanders

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