Alicia Loc: NYC

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It's easy to see you live up to your avatar (perhaps you think it is clever). The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

Priceless! Hahahaha!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Alicia, Alicia, Alicia~~~

Having been directed to your thread by a few I thought I'd come say hello to you...Very nice of you to think of me, assuming you are, since it was I, who posted pictures for a new avi, asking which was liked...
I'm younger than your stated age of 80, if that is correct, and I like the pictures I post..Should they offend you, then by all means, don't look at them...Mine reflect me, whether they be flowers, cars, a particular outfit I wear or would wear, or in celebration of a holiday etc...I see you have nothing posted up, possibly you're uncomfortable with expressing yourself or something about your character?? No problem at all..

While I could go about trying to prove my sex, I'll simply do this...Since I am not sure if you are a cross dressing transgender and you imply I may not be a lady, coffee seems to answer it all, doesn't it?? I would welcome a cup of coffee with you and invite you to one anytime you would like, as long as you are not some cross dressing, transgender that going to follow me to the Ladies room when I go in it...Fair enough??

Now, as to your posted letter....

Is it no wonder the gentlemen of this world are confused about when to be a gentlemen and respectful to we, women??? They were raised to protect their sisters, defend them and let no one hurt them..Fair enough???

In todays' society chivalry is almost gone...Yes?? How many times have you walked away from some man and thought he certainly is no gentlemen???

I happen to like, as Archie said, the door opened for me, a chair pulled out for me, to be allowed to enter a door first while the man holds it open for me..I will likewise do the very same for them, not to be berading them for being the kind gentlemen that thought enough of me to do those things, but rather for mutual respect...

I admire a man that is a man and wishes to honor me with these kind gestures, that are not sexual in nature, but because he is that man that has his own moral standard of how to treat a lady...Most likely developed because of his love for his mother, or grandmother, or some female that impacted his life enough to want to be respectful, or a father, that would light his butt up, like my father would do to my brothers if they ever tried to hit me, or hurt me etc..

I think it must be very difficult for men in todays' society of the "liberated women" who can do it all on her own, takes offense when a man offers his help or guidance or protection..I truly do find it most confusing for them..I always say Thank You to a man who does for me as I suggested above...I have also seen women be rude when a man does do these things and say, curtly, I can do that, or no need I got the door or one that looked at the gentlemen and said~What, do you think I don't know how to open the damn thing?? I was embarrassed for him and wanted to smack her!! I said just as loudly, slam it in her face and let her open herself..

And yes,I can do all these things for myself and do but I also like for a man to be a man and show that side of him..I guess that's the difference when your confident enough in yourself, you need not make it a point to point out to men just how independent you are..

Rather than chastize men for having that protective nature about them or being a gentlemen in your presence why not say Thank You, you are becoming extinct, rather than some hateful letter by a teenager that is just learning about life and how she presently perceives it..Good for her independence, but she need not be rude to the men who see it slightly different..I wonder if she has a father or brothers and if she tells them the same things she put in her letter???

Finally,I will close with this..I thoroughly enjoy the protection a man offers me..Walking me to my car if late at night or from the Mall at the holidays because crime escalates or calling me to be sure I got home etc..A man that would stand and take a beating so I am not hurt..A man that will defend my honor and right to be a lady..I am a feminine..Not feminine as in the political sense but rather because I am a lady that loves her dresses, her high heals, and all the pretty things I like to buy to make my home, a home...In other words, Alicia, a feminist by choice and I would appreciate it if you and your teenage friend would consider what your bitching about to these men that look to protect you..Thank them for it!! You never know when you may really need one....

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

From what Alicia has posted over time...I think she is an old dried up prune...has no life...can't find a MAN and would not know what to do if she had one. So she has turned her attention to people in the music arts and thinks she has some place there listening to someone with talent play a guitar or sing a song...all the while the loud music rattles her false teeth and forces her to turn down her hearing aide....boo hoo for her.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

And I say Thank You for being concerned enough to want to protect women, your mother, daughter, niece whomever..Don't change either..I certainly appreciate it...Not just for this ridiculous bathroom issue that has gotten completely out of hand but rather for being considerate enough to care...

As if we need the dang government Nazi regime now in our damn bathroom too..pfffttttttt..Utterly absurd!!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Well, you do raise a good question..I wonder if she was ever married and if so, if she had children?? One would think she needed a man then, yes? Then again, maybe not, if a transgender, he/she may have had to opt for adoption????

I just don't understand the need to post something that may be viewed as pompous in thought with no more intent than to be doing just that..Just offering another side?? Why the need???

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

I cannot recall any mention of children...but I was not too keen on her attempt a few months back she posted a picture of some young woman if I am not mistaken holding a fish? Claiming it was a recent picture of her! I jumped on that fact as I had recalled she already made the claim of being older than dirt! But her response was she took care of herself....no way...not even a few hundred plastic surgeries can take 50 years off anyone...and you could tell the picture looked like it was taken in 1945 or so...!

The bottom line is...she is on some sort of trip about an issue that has no meaning on a political website....may as well posted about a canoe in her living room with a hole in it!

Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

Lindajoy...
We (men) really do appreciate a woman wanting to look and sound like a Lady rather than some bile spouting Feminazi (extreme or radical) and/or Radical GLBTs verbally castrating men and suing in our courts those who don't adhere to their Politically Correct idea of gender, marriage and family.

With Obama's ruling concerning Transgenders using showers in Gyms and Health Clubs and bathrooms in schools and all public restrooms, his edict edict is vague an open to interpretation. His ruling is that Transgenders use the facilities that they identify with that day. This leaves open an opportunity for abuse by Sexual molesters, deviants, and opportunists.

The GLBT radical faction that is forcing all these changes on us are as bigoted as the ones they point their fingers at. They only see their way and want to force these changes in our society by court order rather than a natural evolution for change. They rammed Gay Marriage right down our throats...

The Psychiatric community defines Transsexual, as a Mental condition rather than a physical one (It's all in their heads). If they were born a true Pseudohermaphrodite (Intersexed, today) then their genetic makeup is not XX or XY, but at times a mutated into XXX, or possible and X with a vestige on the Y. These are people that are born with at times genital defects and a sense of identity sometimes not developed.

Usually they are excused from gym classes and continue to use the restrooms that meet their sexual identity. These people (one in about every 50,000 people born in the USA each year) live their lives hidden because of the stigma of being called an abomination, freaks.

Trangenders (as defined by the Psychiatric Community) are sick in their heads. Interesexed individuals were born with a genital birth defects.

My take on this new restroom policy is that if the transgenders have made the commitment to change to the sex they indentify with and live this way day in and day out (usually by then they are on Hormone treatments)... Dressed in an appropriate manner they should use the restrooms they are comfortable with and private stalls should be provided.

As for Gym classes and showers, Men and women, young boys and girls should not be subjected to this form of Political Correctness that will lead to Bullying, Teasing, embarrassment, or sexual assault... Where children, men, and women are undressing and showering, they must be given the comfort and security that they need.

I'm sure that only the Radical LGBT's are pushing for unrestricted bathroom and shower use. The transgenders and Intersex people I have known seem to want to go about their lives without being pointed out with the problems they are having to deal with. The schools and employers should be made aware of these students and employees conditions and needs and provide them and workers a safe and secure environment.

Typical, that Obama has screwed this up and is causing more division in this country... Only 238 more days of this imbecile and please, let's not elect another idiot of Academia to the presidency.

Stop this Political Correct Madness...

Alicia Loc: NYC

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lj, lj, lj. It may surprise you when I say I agree with you regarding the feminist (social) portion of your post. I did live through the initial "feminist" movement and disapproved of most of it. I still don't approve of women taking on jobs that truly need muscle only to try to prove that they are as good as men. That was a disturbing era. I also resented not being able to find a suit that didn't have a skirt. I became so tired of wearing slacks that I made my own long skirts. Of course, in the winter season I wore long johns under it but no one could see them. I even hitchhiked in one of my homemade skirts (with matching shawl) to get to my Dad's home when my vehicle was out of commission.

I have always been considered feminine only to have friends respond to something they considered daring that they never knew I might be interested in such an action. I always thank anyone, male or female, for holding a door open for me. Yes, I do appreciate the little niceties offered by some men but I never could see the sense in a man who is loaded down with grocery bags, going through the effort of holding a door open for a woman who is only carrying her purse. I consider that asinine! If he is carrying my packages, I certainly feel I should hold the door for him. Just being practical.

Now, I'll tell you a story about the man down the street to whom I asked for help by using some of his freezer space - mine was filled and I came across a sale I couldn't resist. After placing my food in his freezer, we (I thought) sat down for a short conversation. He added nothing to the conversation and it was a struggle. Finally he admitted to me that he couldn't pay attention to anything I said because he was so concentrated on my breasts - I was fully dressed. Maybe some women consider male appreciation of their breasts a compliment but I don't. I really don't take credit for genes that were passed to me.

I do recall the masculine comments when you first appeared on OPP and they showed that, so long as they could appreciate your avatars, they could not consider you an equal but a little lady. And this was purely from the photos you presented - and continue to present. I consider the term "little lady" to be condescending because it is often accompanied by no consideration of whatever I may say. My thoughts are every bit as good as anyones and I would like to be appreciated for having a brain. I prefer respect on both sides of the fence.

I still dress to be attractive to men. I was brought up that way only because of the ads and my mother enjoyed dressing her little doll. My Dad taught me to row a boat as well as any boy and I even attached another boat when the boy discovered he really didn't know how to row. Even then, I never mentioned it. I believe that housework should be shared by whomever is better physically fit for the job. I can paint a house but washing windows or pushing a lawn mower uses muscles better suited to the male physique. Both those jobs require upper body strength and a woman's body would automatically direct the strain to her abdomen.

I do hope you now realize that we do have much in common. I do resent the "boys will be boys" attitude and that for most of history the victim in a rape was considered the cause with reasons that "she wore her skirts too short." That's BS. Before my time viewing a woman's ankles were considered sinful - but most desirable. Males should learn control and respect for anyone - be they male or female. I absolutely despise the Alpha male type. (A little too much like Trump and his small hands.) Yes, I agree with the young girl in that sex education should be taught in schools so that the mystique can be removed as well as the "sin" of seeing parts of the body. It seems that some never grow out of that.

By the way, I still wear heels. Even at my age, I can see that my legs are more attractive in them and I've been jumping rope in them since I was 11. Yes, I still have great legs - but those were inherited also.

Alicia Loc: NYC

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This is the last time I will respond to you. Just to clear up a few things. I have been married a couple of times and to brilliant men - so unlike you. The only avatar I ever posted was of a large cat with a cub. Therefore you've never seen a photo of me. You do have difficulty with age and I'd like you to know that most people consider me 10 - 15 years younger physically and 30 years younger intellectually. My face is not wrinkled (I don't frown much) nor is my body, although I realize I can no longer wear a string bikini. The issue I brought up hit you hard, didn't it. Does it sound familiar? It is obvious that you are a prevert (spelling intended). Your mind is always in the gutter and you can bring up the ugliest pictures. No one else on OPP can beat you on that. Take it as a compliment.

Singularity

LJ, I generally leave a thread once you show up, as all conversation devolves to inane sexual innuendo. The guys can't ogle and argue at the same time.

I don't find you attractive in that way, and I find many of your opinions uninteresting as well. Especially the ones about how attractive you are and how nice men are to you and how much you admire manly men like that.....

Sheesh, get a room.

Close the door!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Morning Ferrous~~

This entire mess over bathroom etiquette is such a monumental waste of tax payers money and peoples time its ridiculous..And all because "someone" felt gender discriminated..Hell, but for them blowing the whistle on them self no one would have known or even thought about something as absurd..In the end what will happen?? Obviously more division in people, another case where government should not be in our lives, that transgenders will continue to use the restroom they are comfortable with regardless, because, as I said, no one would know anyway...

They scream "labeled" by society and in their action certainly do establish a label..Who's ideology is impacted by that?? And why the issue to begin with?? Discrimination?? Really?? How about just admitting that by choice you are different and that's ok and NOT making it everyone elses' business..We are so dang over PC it truly is PCBS anymore..From one extreme to the other..Some things in life just are and its that simple or should be anyway...

As for that POS in office I detest anything he has to offer and do not give a damn about what he says...He, once again, usurp the law, by making his dictatorship demand and what he ordered has no legal foundation until the Supreme Court rules and Congress then makes the law~~~

237, now, to go and it sure will not come quick enough!! Good grief 8 yrs has been an exceptionally longgggggg time with that one!!!

Singularity

MY great grandma did all the plowing herself in her spare time between having and raising the ten babies, cuz the man couldnt even plow a straight line!

Artemis

I believe she is doing the opposite... they are right to be concerned but to broaden their concern to an awareness of our attitudes in our society. I believe we are making strides in that direction, maybe more like baby steps.

Artemis

~Ouch...you have a point, the pictures are a manipulation that has worked well for her...go figure