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May 23, 2016 09:00:25   #
payne1000
 
Super Dave wrote:
Nuclear coal gad and oil render a whole lot more energy than dollar per dollar invested. They are actually economically viable. That's why companies make money obtaining and processing them after being taxed.

The undeniable proof that fossil fuels are are viable is found in the free market. I guess you didn't think to look there.


Do you have any valid sources to back up your claims? Solar and wind power use free energy to generate power. Fossil fuel and nuclear plants require the use of expensive fuel to create power.

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May 23, 2016 11:20:55   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
payne1000 wrote:
Do you have any valid sources to back up your claims? Solar and wind power use free energy to generate power. Fossil fuel and nuclear plants require the use of expensive fuel to create power.
What are you, 10 years old?

Oil, gas and coal are free if you own the rights to the property where you collect them, just like sunlight and wind.

What isn't free is the collection of the energy sources. The rights to the lands where you collect them isn't free. The materials and equipment used to collect them aren't free. The labor isn't free. The regulations aren't free. The permits aren't free. The taxes aren't free.

The net present value of the energy obtained is what makes the energy source a viable method of energy production. The Obama Admin taxes fossil fuels and gives the money to renewables to prop them up. These energy sources are almost non-existent in a free market because they're almost always non-viable.

Just a cursory knowledge of economics would make this obvious.

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May 23, 2016 11:42:13   #
payne1000
 
Super Dave wrote:
What are you, 10 years old?

Oil, gas and coal are free if you own the rights to the property where you collect them, just like sunlight and wind.

What isn't free is the collection of the energy sources. The rights to the lands where you collect them isn't free. The materials and equipment used to collect them aren't free. The labor isn't free. The regulations aren't free. The permits aren't free. The taxes aren't free.

The net present value of the energy obtained is what makes the energy source a viable method of energy production. The Obama Admin taxes fossil fuels and gives the money to renewables to prop them up. These energy sources are almost non-existent in a free market because they're almost always non-viable.

Just a cursory knowledge of economics would make this obvious.
What are you, 10 years old? br br Oil, gas and c... (show quote)


What is becoming more and more obvious is that you are a shill for the nuclear-fossil fuel industry.

The land on which solar energy is collected is part of the start-up cost. Once that expense is paid the energy is a free resource. All nuclear and fossil fuel plants require a lot of expensive fuel to operate.

I have 44 solar panels which I feed back into the power grid. The power company pays me for the power I generate. I'm making a lot more on my investment than I would if invested in the Wall St. Ponzi scheme.

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May 23, 2016 15:59:45   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
payne1000 wrote:
What is becoming more and more obvious is that you are a shill for the nuclear-fossil fuel industry.

The land on which solar energy is collected is part of the start-up cost. Once that expense is paid the energy is a free resource. All nuclear and fossil fuel plants require a lot of expensive fuel to operate.

I have 44 solar panels which I feed back into the power grid. The power company pays me for the power I generate. I'm making a lot more on my investment than I would if invested in the Wall St. Ponzi scheme.
What is becoming more and more obvious is that you... (show quote)
Good for you. Where did you imagine I said anything against free market solar panels?

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