Alicia Loc: NYC

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I'm talking about unrestrained capitalism. In addition, this is being carried on by our Republican Congress which keeps cutting back on the education budget, fights against minimum wage (it's been decades) refuses to help those who are (what could be) temporary poverty, and wastes money on loopholes for the wealthy as well as defense. Will you deny that our own corporation-backed Congress has helped in any of these ways?

Regarding myself, I studied (Mom loved education) and studied music which allowed me to enroll in a specialized high school. At that school I met people from all walks of life and was introduced to "their" way of living. I was fortunate to have been born talented and rose quickly in the fields I entered. Then put myself through college. I always look for the next step up and am not concerned with where I had been. "A Man's reach should exceed his grasp. . ." I don't believe in being "comfortable" and stayed with the idea (which I read somewhere) of avoiding that sort of "comfort." I'm forever discovering new interests which leads me into studying until I am more than competent. BUT I never truly lose interest in those of the past. I also always keep in mind that there are those in my fields of interest that are better at it than I. I am competitive but only with myself which, I believe is a pretty good philosophy.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I will not comment on your life or your mother's ability to parent. However, I will make a comment on your notion of stupidity and ignorance. First one has to ascertain if a person has the capacity to learn. Some individual, regardless of how much education, close supervision or mentoring just cannot grasp the concept of the subject material. All being equal, an ignorant person might exhibit stupidity because of inadequate understanding of a situation, and exposure and experience may remove their ignorance, thus reducing the chances of them remaining ignorant or stupid. A stupid person, on the other hand, is also ignorant, because their stupidity prevents them from acquiring knowledge, and this means that such a person is likely to remain stupid and ignorant. Indeed, all people exhibit either one or the other and there are times when they exhibit both characteristics simultaneously. It is therefore, unkind at minimum and reeks of cruelty to pigeonhole anyone into either category.

Let me provide you with an example. I could not fly an airplane. Therefore, one could call me ignorant. Until that individual finds out that after 9/11 I developed Acrophobia. Then that same individual could reasonably call me both stupid and ignorant. But, I am a member of Mensa and have been from the age of 6.... so does either title fit? I am sure that there is no one who can do everything..... So is it fair to be prejudiced against either a stupid or ignorant individual?

Resistance to change does not connote either ignorance or stupidity, it is simply the action taken by individuals or groups when they perceive a change is a threat. The key is words are 'perceive' and 'threat.’ Can you blame a person for seeing a change as threatening? Absolutely not! An adult recognizes the fear and they take steps to make clear what a change would involve and the benefits of those changes. Again, these people are neither ignorant nor stupid, and should never be the object of bigotry.

As for personal growth, that can only be developed to the extent that a person has talent or potential.... one may want to examine "new ideas" of nanotechnology, but if they cannot grasp the understanding of string or chaos theory then there is not too much of a chance of them "growing" or adding this to their list of accomplishments.

Aging does not guarantee wisdom or even maturity. It simply means that you have survived day-to-day and have gotten to where you are, old. It gives you no automatic passes for being impolite or judgmental, it gives no special honors. Having said that, I wish you continued health and vitality!

Alicia Loc: NYC

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You seem to be confusing the definitions of ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is not having a particular knowledge. After all, we are all ignorant of multiple things as it is impossible to absorb much knowledge. Stupidity, on the other hand, is a refusal to experience that which will make one less ignorant. There are those who simply do not wish to expand their knowledge. It could be a matter of fear.

I can recall my very first performance and I was afraid of making a mistake. Bu then I thought to myself, "These people came to see a good, if semi-professional performance and that's what I have to give them. So, behave as if you're professional." I have always taught my students that they truly should love their audience because those people came out of their homes and traveled in order to give the performer the opportunity to do what s/he loves to do. I also reminded them that the audience came to be entertained and, unless you're really stinko, they will be. Audiences want you to do well.

Learning anything is a challenge but also an adventure. Some see only the challenge and never make the attempt and remain with their fear. It is one's outlook that makes the difference.

A woman down the street told me that she hates living in this city and, when I suggested she make a move, the only places that came to mind were two large cities in the same state. I tried to explain to her that reaching the border does not mean you'll fall off the end of the world. There's an entire country out there, not to mention an entire world. Now, she is an example of stupidity probably due to fear.

It was over a year after relocating that i went back to pick up my furniture. I had never driven any type of truck and, of course, I was nervous. I look back at that trip and must laugh. Firstly I had a friend drive around a few blocks with me. Then, through ignorance, I drove the van into at every weigh station. On the entire trip, no one told me that was not necessary.

Every new experience is a challenge but everyone has the choice as to whether they will accept that challenge. Those who choose not to, and are envious of others who will, I consider stupid as well as those who, in their posts, call me uppity. As Trump says, "They're losers." You must admit that there are those who take pride in their ignorance.

Regarding my age, as I already stated, I had never considered the word octogenarian before. It was an eye opener. I've always known my age but I've never placed a classification on it.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I trust that you have your own understanding of terminology. I guess after becoming an octogenarian you do not need to "grow" with new meaning put on old and antiquated ideas. No, I do not confuse the words nor the terms, but modern philosophy and psychology has moved on.

I could care less about your "great performances." Too many people try to live the splendor of their past.... your tales of what you have done along with three dollars will buy you a nice cup of tea. And indeed, I am less interested in your neighbors thoughts or positions. Nor have I any interest in who you consider a "loser." None of this is germane to the thread. But, perhaps I am in error, after going back and watching Orwell again, you have typified what he claims. "In our world, there will be no emotions, except fear, rage. There will be no loyalty, except to the party....."

What interests me is the subject of this thread and your uncivilized response to my comment. Now that is worth looking into. Especially when my comment was not about you, but rather a comment on the thread.

payne1000

Character assassination is what you do, Pennylynn. Don't you think your overuse of this shill technique is obvious to readers by now?

payne1000

Exactly how were the Protocols proved to be a hoax and by whom?

payne1000

Or maybe Orwell had this person in mind . . .

Alicia Loc: NYC

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For a short period I actually saw you as an intelligent, discerning human being. But now, your true colors are showing. You no longer wish to debate a theory or thread, instead you are reverting to kind and attacking.

I offered my experiences as an example. Truth be told, I have not kept a scrapbook on my former activities. I am always looking forward to the next. Yes, even at my age. I would say it is you who is living in the past.

I do see Orwell's discussion as actually taking place now. It had already begun while I was in college when I first read Animal Farm. It was a comment on government and the tricks played on the populace many of which follow along, without thinking, like the farm animals.

Look at what is happening now with the uneducated mass following Trump and his hate scheme. You can't tell me that he doesn't enjoy those riots. Is he the "leader" you are backing?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I have gone through this on another thread with you....do you not recall?? Okay, understanding that you did admit to having a real short attention span in that thread, here is a link to the London Times, August 16 to 18, 1921, http://emperors-clothes.com/antisem/graves-text.htm

Even the Anti-semetic website, True Torah Jews calls it a fraud. And Orthodox Outlet for Dogmatic Enquiries, says it is a fraud. http://oodegr.co/english/istorika/israil/protocols_zion.htm and here: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
Mark Foster. net.... goes into detail. http://www.markfoster.net/struc/protocols_of_learned_elders_of_zion-wiki.pdf and here: Skeptics Dictionary: http://skepdic.com/protocols.html

And if you go to Wikipedia, there is an impressive list of source references..... all indeed check out as accurate quotes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Another Jew hating website, above top secret also says it is a hoax, in fact they call it "Fake 'Protocols' Aims to Stir Hatred for Jews."
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread54862/pg1

If you need more reference, just google it.... there is a list pick one that you can believe. But, I suspect that you will not go to any of these sites and read what they say and will just come back and say they are Zionist sites.... but, then you will fail to see that I avoided any site that is Jewish or even is Conservative!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

And if I really cared what you thought of me, then you would have hurt my feeling! You ended civil debate with this: "Unlike you, I don't live in la-la land and prefer to view a situation, or problem, from more than one aspect." Or was that your way of inviting civil discussion? And then you followed up with "Your words expose your personality and beliefs. Thats enough information for me to be able to judge you." Was this your second attempt at opening dialogue?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Let me see if I get this correct, a note about history which is facts are now verboden by you? Hummmm..... are you now the censor of free speech?

payne1000

There is no limit to the number of claims which can be made that the Protocols are a hoax. Maybe they are. But when you see what is happening in the world, some of Protocols have been carried out. Is this by coincidence? The absolute necessity of Zionist control of the Press is stated in the Protocols. That has happened.
Jews/Zionists now own or control all mainstream news corporations in the U.S. http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jews-in-the-media-hollywood/
Persuading the U.S. to fight wars which benefit Zionism is mentioned in the Protocols. The U.S. is engaged in an endless war in the Middle East which benefits Israel/Zionism and not the U.S. The Protocols stress controlling U.S. politicians. The 29 unanimous standing ovations Netanyahu received in an address to the U.S. Congress reveals that this control has been accomplished.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asGvjbfIASA

Why have so many of the Protocols goals been accomplished if they are a hoax? Perhaps the original author of the Protocols could see into the future.

payne1000

Your comment was a deliberate hit piece on Orwell.
Your tactics are always to attack the messenger rather than discuss the message. It's what shills do.

emarine

The future or the past? History has a tendency to repeat itself ... If enough people predict an outcome... someone has to come close ... That doesn't make it real... Haters manipulate to prove what's not there

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

For such a small population of all the people on planet earth.... 16 Million people, out of 7.4 BILLION... (all the Jews of the world is less than the population of Ohio) and you spend so much time worrying about what they are up to and what they own. Here is a thought, find within your own race some wealthy individuals and buy back your media. Buy back the hotels or chicken farms....indeed buy back what you think the Jew owns and controls. Run them for yourself. And by all means, start your own lending institutions because that was working so well for America! So, take your money, your media, your business and run them for yourself. Put a Democrat in charge, that has worked so well for cities run by them, right? Ask the people of Detroit, MI; Oakland, CA; Memphis, TN; St Louis, MO; Cleveland, OH; Baltimore, MD; Milwaukee, WI; Birmingham, AL; and Newark, NJ .... not only turned to slums, but crime runs ramped.

BiBi got the standing ovations because what he said was truth. In Oct 2015 Iran began testing weapons. Jan 2016 they captured American sailors and forced them to their knees while pointing guns at their heads. And then that esteemed leader, Admiral Fadavi also noted that the IRGC had filmed the capture of the US sailors for several hours, the release of which would bring humiliation to the United States. If US officials say they are angry with and frustrated by the footage released, they would be 100 times more embarrassed if the IRGC releases other films of the capture. This is your new BBFs?. So tell me... do we have more to fear now than we did before Obama made his deal? Is the Middle East less stable?

Again, if you are unhappy that Jews owns the media, buy it from them. If you are unhappy they own lending institutions, buy them out. Don't just complain and whine... You do not want to wage war if you get nothing from it, tell the WH, tell your elected officials. Tell them to let Israel go it alone. I am sure that you will feel so much safer, sleep better, and have much more control over your life without that 16 million men, women, and children controlling what you do! You certainly will have much less to whine about on OPP!