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Feb 7, 2016 17:19:41   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
As one side escalates so then does the other.

We both live in this country & we don't see eye to eye.

This country fought one or the bloodiest Civil Wars ever.

I can not join in an armed attacked on the government in this country.

There is no guaranty that what ever replaces what we have now will even be as good as what we have now.

But the undertakes will have a field day.

I am not pleased with much that is going on & do not wish to be caught in the middle of any fighting going on.

I only wish to be a voice for cooler heads to prevail.
As one side escalates so then does the other. br ... (show quote)


Why grow old and helpless in some assisted care facility ?

Let's go make war my friend.

Let us go and die in battle, rather than to wither away .

Let us grind the bones of our enemies.

That's what we do.

We are Americans.

We are warriors.

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Feb 7, 2016 18:12:02   #
boatbob2
 
No,I don't WANT to make war,But,when WE finally get tired of the bull shit,being passed around in DC,and its time to get rid of the idiots,that want to change America into a third world shit hole,like the one obozo came from. I will be standing with The TRUE Americans,Combat is a bitch,been there,didnt like it,so I went back for seconds,so,some other American boy wouldn't have to go.

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Feb 7, 2016 21:08:49   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
I believe all shootings by government authorities should be investigated, especial those that result in death. Those you've identified perpetrated on black people have been, lets see if the one I mentioned on a white person will be, especially with video to show exactly went on, and with many witnesses? I also question why so many FBI agents were stationed in trees with scoped guns with lasers attached to them, for what was the reason behind that tactic, and what was planned for using that tactic? And why did the law enforcement agencies start firing at stopped vehicles with no provocation for doing so, which would seem to be an ambush with the goal of an execution?


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Feb 7, 2016 21:08:54   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
I believe all shootings by government authorities should be investigated, especial those that result in death. Those you've identified perpetrated on black people have been, lets see if the one I mentioned on a white person will be, especially with video to show exactly went on, and with many witnesses? I also question why so many FBI agents were stationed in trees with scoped guns and with lasers attached to them, for what was the reason behind that tactic, and what was planned for using that tactic? And why did the law enforcement agencies start firing at stopped vehicles with no provocation for doing so, which would seem to be an ambush with the goal of an execution?


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Feb 7, 2016 23:52:17   #
Artemis
 
Randy131 wrote:
I believe all shootings by government authorities should be investigated, especial those that result in death. Those you've identified perpetrated on black people have been, lets see if the one I mentioned on a white person will be, especially with video to show exactly went on, and with many witnesses? I also question why so many FBI agents were stationed in trees with scoped guns and with lasers attached to them, for what was the reason behind that tactic, and what was planned for using that tactic? And why did the law enforcement agencies start firing at stopped vehicles with no provocation for doing so, which would seem to be an ambush with the goal of an execution?
I believe all shootings by government authorities ... (show quote)


There was the young woman who survived I would hope she would pursue it. It is unbelievable... though I don't know the officers side of the story to react in such a way. What bothers me the most is that in all these cases why the officers don't see the injustice of it, to even commit the offenses. What happened to protect and serve?

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Feb 8, 2016 00:24:57   #
Randy131 Loc: Florida
 
I've already read the testimony given by the young girl who was going to sing at the party they were actually going to at the time this ambush occurred, and survived the violent onslaught by gunfire on the vehicle she was in, and also the testimony of another woman who happened to witness the incident, and that is where I got my original description of what occurred, which the video confirms. But there has been no national news of this being given out by officials or the media, and if not for the internet, one would not even know that this incident occurred, let alone someone was killed, or murdered by assassination. Out of all the hundreds of shots that were fired, not one was fired by the victim and his passengers, not even a weapon taken into hand by any of them, so why did the FBI and State Troopers open fire on them, with no proof of any type of provocation, especially for shooting the murdered victim while he was walking toward officers to surrender with his arms and hands held high into the air, while asking for the shooting toward his vehicle be stopped because of the young lady that was in the vehicle, as the video shows. Then after he falls, grasping his side where they shot him while his arms and hands were still being held high into the air, they keep shooting him while he is laying in the snow incapacitated, until he dies, and offering him no medical assistance. One should ask why the FBI had many snipers with scopes and lasers, hidden in the trees in the area surrounding this incident, which makes this ambush perceived as being planned. Not one shot, or even an attempt of a shot being fired by the arrested victims of this incident, all the rounds being fired by the government officials, without the first action of provocation.

Artemis wrote:
There was the young woman who survived I would hope she would pursue it. It is unbelievable... though I don't know the officers side of the story to react in such a way. What bothers me the most is that in all these cases why the officers don't see the injustice of it, to even commit the offenses. What happened to protect and serve?

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Feb 8, 2016 00:42:56   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I agree with pretty much all you say lpn. But I don't think it has to always be this way. As those who use logic and reason continue to speak up and focus on attacking issues instead of people, we will (albeit slowly) move towards peace.

The crying baby always gets the most attention, but it's the calm parents that actually get things resolved.


Thank you for the bright outlook on this issue.

We are on the right road.

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Feb 8, 2016 06:54:13   #
c.murray132
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
As one side escalates so then does the other.

We both live in this country & we don't see eye to eye.

This country fought one or the bloodiest Civil Wars ever.

I can not join in an armed attacked on the government in this country.

There is no guaranty that what ever replaces what we have now will even be as good as what we have now.

But the undertakes will have a field day.

I am not pleased with much that is going on & do not wish to be caught in the middle of any fighting going on.

I only wish to be a voice for cooler heads to prevail.
As one side escalates so then does the other. br ... (show quote)


I think the cooler heads are calling for a Conventio of States.

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Feb 8, 2016 09:43:14   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
I am thinking more along the lime of using how we make & spend our money to change the market place.

Those in the seats of Government have sold Us out to the highest bidders.

So we will have the greatest impact if we vote with our money

We waste lots of our effort in making our money & in how we end up spending it

That is the key area to strive for.

Who & what & why we spend our money is the greatest power we have.

We have freedom to choose who we work for or with.

We don't need material things to shape who we are.

The real & lasting power is in the hands of the masses.

Each of us has more influence in the out come of what is going on in the world than we think we have.

Sharing of ways to do this is a good way to start.

After all it is having money we can spend as we choose is the greatest freedom

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Feb 8, 2016 19:28:28   #
roy
 
boatbob2 wrote:
OH YES,why don't you guys ask obozo,to please change his mind,about destroying AMERICA,AND GO BACK TO COCK SUCKING........


I always find that people that make those kind of statements are the ones that are still in the closet and really know alot about doing the type things you said.

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Feb 8, 2016 19:37:57   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Randy131 wrote:
Sounds just like an old 'Colonial Crown Loyalist' for King George III, which was why only 30% of the American colonists actually fought for the USA's independence, the rest were either cowards, or loyalists to the Crown. Our federal government today is nothing even close to what our constitution says it's supposed to be, or the 'Founding Fathers' left us as our 'Heritage', and that is because good people stood by and did nothing, while the usurpations took place and are now common place and set by precedent. As a lad in school and while reading history, which was a favorite subject of mine, I would often wonder what I would have done had I been in the same position of those in the history books were, after reading what they had done. My parents being exceptional at teaching right from wrong, I decided and knew I would have done approximately the same as our 'Founding Fathers' did, and was probably why after graduating from high school in 1967, I joined the US Marine Corps, instead of deserting my country and going to Canada to avoid the military draft because of the Vietnam War. Apparently Floyd Brown, if my age, probably spent quite some time in Canada, and if not, then is a crown loyalist to the fascism that the federal government employs today to rule over the American people, and one has to go no further than Oregon this last week to see that attitude by our federal government in action, as an American patriot was assassinated while walking with his arms and hands raised high in the air, to surrender after being shot at without provocation while driving himself and others to a meeting with the local Sheriff, and which even though he was armed, never once did he or any of his companions even attempt to return fire when being fired upon first, again without provocation. And for those who don't want to believe this, besides the eye-witness testimony of this being true, there are video tapes that show that this is exactly what happened, and when the victim grabbed his side where he was shot, the normal thing for any human being to do, the government claims he was going for a nonexistent gun, because his gun was strapped much lower to his right thigh, for which he never once reached for, as the video clearly shows, to justify shooting him several more times, even as he lay in the snow dying, and eventually killing him, never once trying to assist him by giving first aid after he was shot many times and was obviously incapacitated. These killing actions without provocation, and the medical non-actions that followed, can only be described and defined as a political 'ASSASSINATION'. But Floyd Brown says we should accept this without any response, especially not of the kind the American colonist took when they suffered the same from King George III of Great Britain. Just as we did after the atrocities of Ruby Ridge, and the history of the federal governments criminality in that incident also, for which a federal judge berated and denigrated the federal government for. So, 'Loyalist to Fascism', or coward, I wonder which, but it really doesn't matter, because both are horrible for the human condition, and shows a huge lack of good character and judgement.
Sounds just like an old 'Colonial Crown Loyalist' ... (show quote)


Thankyou!! could not have said it better !!

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Feb 8, 2016 19:41:00   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
As one side escalates so then does the other.

We both live in this country & we don't see eye to eye.

This country fought one or the bloodiest Civil Wars ever.

I can not join in an armed attacked on the government in this country.

There is no guaranty that what ever replaces what we have now will even be as good as what we have now.

But the undertakes will have a field day.

I am not pleased with much that is going on & do not wish to be caught in the middle of any fighting going on.

I only wish to be a voice for cooler heads to prevail.
As one side escalates so then does the other. br ... (show quote)


Floyd-there will not be any armed conflict against the government of this country. However, we are more divided now than ever before and started with the inauguration of the Divider in Chief. When a newly elected president refers to the opposing party as ,"the enemy" it does not bode well for the country. When the supposedly most transparent administration in history becomes totally opaque it is not a sign of cohesiveness. When an administration refuses to punish their wrongdoers but punishes those of the opposing party, it does not bode well for the country. Re-unification will have to start at the top with the next president . If we elect a smart person whose primary interests are those of the American people,and one who places the needs of the country ahead of those of his party, the two parties will ultimately come together. It will never happen under Obama or Clinton. Good Luck America !!!

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Feb 8, 2016 21:29:26   #
Gordon Richard
 
I just hope that when the time comes for action, there are enough of us fighters around to make the difference !!!!!!!!!!

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