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Pope Francis calls for Israel to be divided into two states
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Dec 26, 2015 13:15:10   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
This Pope thinks he is a Politician. As far as I am concerned he is poor at both.
whole2th wrote:
Pope Francis pleaded for solidarity with those fleeing war and poverty who travel 'all too often through inhumane conditions and not infrequently at the risk of their lives'
"I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land." Joel 3:2 (KJV)

EDITOR'S NOTE: In the third chapter of Joel, we read about one of the fundamental reasons for God's anger at the Battle of Armageddon. It is because outside nations have parted the land of Israel, dispersed His people, and stolen His silver and gold. Think about that as you ponder on the Pope calling for Israel to be divided today. The cup is filling up rapidly.

Pope Francis used his Christmas message to urge Israelis and Palestinians to formulate a two state solution by sitting down at the negotiation table and agreeing a peace deal to allow both sides 'to live together in harmony'.

He asked that Israelis and Palestinians resume direct dialogue which would 'enable two people to live together in harmony and end a conflict which has caused great conflict for the entire region', before praying for an end to the civil war in Syria and 'in remedying the extremely grave humanitarian situation of its suffering people'.

Speaking from the loggia of St Peter's Basilica in Rome, Francis issued a Christmas Day peace appeal Friday against poverty and extremist attacks.
He said: 'Only God's mercy can free humanity from the many forms of evil, at times monstrous evil, which selfishness spawns in our midst.'

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'Where God is born, hope is born. He brings hope. Where God is born, peace is born. And where peace is born, there is no longer room for hatred and for war.'

He asked that Israelis and Palestinians resume direct dialogue which would 'enable two people to live together in harmony and end a conflict which has caused great conflict for the entire region', before praying for an end to the civil war in Syria and 'in remedying the extremely grave humanitarian situation of its suffering people'.

Pope Francis then turned his thoughts to those affected by 'brutal acts of terrorism', mentioning the recent attacks that left hundreds dead in the likes of Egypt, Paris and Tunisia. He also called for the international community to end the atrocities taking place in Iraq, Libya, Yemen and sub-Saharan Africa, and called for peace and concord across Africa and in Ukraine.
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Dec 26, 2015 14:10:42   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
payne1000 Jr. wrote:
The harms of zionist lies WHICH JMHO ECHOES HERE are readily apparent. I won't post images of gore--your imagination can fill in that.


Anybody that believes a word that comes out your Jew hating mouth is a brain dead fool. Get a life towel head...better yet go back to school and get an education, only this time try laying off the drugs.

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Dec 26, 2015 15:59:08   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Two states? None sense! Israel must be left intact forever, or none at all. Muslims will annihilate them. It has been the goal of Muslims for all to submit to their moon-god, and to destroy all descendants of Isaac and Jacob.

The Middle East since history begun, was owned by the Jews, Christians, and Pagans. Then after the death of Christ at about 623 AD, the Muslims under Mohammad in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, created this Islam religion using the moon-god, as the allah.

After series of wars, they invaded the land of the Jews, Christians, Pagans; erased their roots of ancestries, and antiquities from their own land.

The maps of the Middle East was revised, erasing all the past existence of the prior inhabitants who were the Jews, Pagans, and Christians. Muslims labeled all the maps as their own. That is why for the Muslims, Israel's land does not exist.

The Temple Mount, the land of Moriah, where Abraham brought Isaac to be offered to God as testimony to his faith, but God saved Isaac. Now, the Temple Mount was destroyed by Muslims where they built the Dome of the Rock on top of it.

What little land Israel has left for themselves could no longer be divided, as they have given to the Muslims almost all of their lands in the past. Israel must not be divided. And whoever calls for dividing that land is a hypocrite and jealous of the Jewish achievements despite on its very limited space.
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Well! Finally some one else, knows some of the past history of the land of the Jews. That most people seem to forget. Jesus and Christianity were born many years before Mohammad and Mohammad had no blessing of god. Islam was created by Mohammad not any God named Allah.

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Dec 26, 2015 16:04:44   #
RWNJ
 
Louie27 wrote:
Well! Finally some one else, knows some of the past history of the land of the Jews. That most people seem to forget. Jesus and Christianity were born many years before Mohammad and Mohammad had no blessing of god. Islam was created by Mohammad not any God named Allah.


Correction. Islam is the Creation of Satan, through his servant, mohammed. I do not believe that a "religion" could have such influence, and be so effective at spreading it's evil, without demonic assistance.

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Dec 26, 2015 16:10:42   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
whole2th wrote:
The harms of zionist lies WHICH JMHO ECHOES HERE are readily apparent. I won't post images of gore--your imagination can fill in that.


We sure will not believe the UN. They only want there to be a world order. The land was originally held by Christians and other peoples and no Muslims. The Muslim religion was born much later in time and after the Romans had taken over the land of the Jewish people. So how could that land have been owned by the Muslims? The UN only used the maps drawn by the Muslims after they had destroyed the Jewish temple and taken over their lands.

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Dec 26, 2015 16:33:56   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
You do realize if Israel wanted to they could wipe out Iran and take on Isis with no problem.
Louie27 wrote:
Well! Finally some one else, knows some of the past history of the land of the Jews. That most people seem to forget. Jesus and Christianity were born many years before Mohammad and Mohammad had no blessing of god. Islam was created by Mohammad not any God named Allah.

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Dec 26, 2015 16:34:24   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Pulfnick wrote:
Why get excited about what this crackpot Pope says? He may control vast wealth, but is just another goofball with a bully pulpit, not a political leader.


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Unfortunatly there are large numbers of ignorant people who will believe anything the pope tells them.

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Dec 26, 2015 16:38:52   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
They have been feeding off the bleeding heartsof the poor for to long.
hprinze wrote:
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Unfortunatly there are large numbers of ignorant people who will believe anything the pope tells them.

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Dec 26, 2015 18:50:57   #
Radiance3
 
RWNJ wrote:
Correction. Islam is the Creation of Satan, through his servant, mohammed. I do not believe that a "religion" could have such influence, and be so effective at spreading it's evil, without demonic assistance.


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I think Islam is the Satanic version of EVIL. There is no doubt about it. By its works, it's all about submission, if not, then beheadings, rape and killings the most painful means. Then after killing the unbelievers, the Muslims shout "allahu Akbar". I'm not sure of the meaning, but I think it means praise god, or their god is the greatest.
Islam is the religion of peace of president Obama, as he stated it before.

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Dec 26, 2015 19:20:37   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
JMHO wrote:
Anybody that believes a word that comes out your Jew hating mouth is a brain dead fool. Get a life towel head...better yet go back to school and get an education, only this time try laying off the drugs.


My understanding of our Educational system is probably where this "Tool of the Left" got his thoughts from... (Orwell called it Right Think.)

Better yet, let this brainwashed child get a real education from Living in this Reality. Our thoughts and Deeds must add to, not take away from the good of our Society. Hate begets more Hate and Allah is a Hateful god (lower case G intended.)

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Dec 27, 2015 15:49:20   #
Gener
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I think Islam is the Satanic version of EVIL. There is no doubt about it. By its works, it's all about submission, if not, then beheadings, rape and killings the most painful means. Then after killing the unbelievers, the Muslims shout "allahu Akbar". I'm not sure of the meaning, but I think it means praise god, or their god is the greatest.
Islam is the religion of peace of president Obama, as he stated it before.



These arguments have a lot of validity on both sides, although I am personally much more pro Jewish. This isn't a simple situation. We can look at it from a political standpoint, and we can also look at it from a Biblical standpoint. The latter however, will only be accepted by a select group of the population.

I do think it is interesting though, that Biblically speaking, the Arab world descends from Abraham as well as Israel. There was a son and grandson that Biblically became the Arab nations. The story reveals around at one level, Ishmael, and the other, Esau. I need to go back and reread the story of Ishmael, I have forgotten a lot, but in Esau's case, it is interesting to note that he and Jacob, (Israel) eventually reconciled. The Bible is at least 90% prophecy. I would go so far as to say 100%. Let us just hope that this prophecy ultimately leads to a reconciliation between the two "brothers." Ishmael however, is a different case. There may be no peace there. I don't know. I just find it a very interesting study.

The term Israel has a number of meanings. On the simplest level, Ish means man, ra means spirit or principle or origin, and el is a term for God. In other words the word means on the most basic level, (and there are many levels) man whose origin is God. Notice Ishmael is very similar, with only the m changed from r. M in Hebrew refers to water and vibration, among many other things, indicating that Ishmael had an origin with God but is not stable. I need to study this a lot more to see what I can learn from the prophecy. But I think, if I remember right, it was Ishmael who was prophesied to be a "wild man, who's hand would always be on his brother, that he would be intractable." Once again the prophecy seems to be true, if the Arabs are his progeny. There may be no peace with Ishmael. Future events will give us a lot more information.

By the way, my heart goes out to any of you who live in the storm damaged areas in Texas and elsewhere where there has been severe destruction in the last couple of days. Hoping the best for all of you.

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Dec 27, 2015 16:10:11   #
Radiance3
 
Gener wrote:
These arguments have a lot of validity on both sides, although I am personally much more pro Jewish. This isn't a simple situation. We can look at it from a political standpoint, and we can also look at it from a Biblical standpoint. The latter however, will only be accepted by a select group of the population.

I do think it is interesting though, that Biblically speaking, the Arab world descends from Abraham as well as Israel. There was a son and grandson that Biblically became the Arab nations. The story reveals around at one level, Ishmael, and the other, Esau. I need to go back and reread the story of Ishmael, I have forgotten a lot, but in Esau's case, it is interesting to note that he and Jacob, (Israel) eventually reconciled. The Bible is at least 90% prophecy. I would go so far as to say 100%. Let us just hope that this prophecy ultimately leads to a reconciliation between the two "brothers." Ishmael however, is a different case. There may be no peace there. I don't know. I just find it a very interesting study.

The term Israel has a number of meanings. On the simplest level, Ish means man, ra means spirit or principle or origin, and el is a term for God. In other words the word means on the most basic level, (and there are many levels) man whose origin is God. Notice Ishmael is very similar, with only the m changed from r. M in Hebrew refers to water and vibration, among many other things, indicating that Ishmael had an origin with God but is not stable. I need to study this a lot more to see what I can learn from the prophecy. But I think, if I remember right, it was Ishmael who was prophesied to be a "wild man, who's hand would always be on his brother, that he would be intractable." Once again the prophecy seems to be true, if the Arabs are his progeny. There may be no peace with Ishmael. Future events will give us a lot more information.

By the way, my heart goes out to any of you who live in the storm damaged areas in Texas and elsewhere where there has been severe destruction in the last couple of days. Hoping the best for all of you.
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Thanks. Very informative Biblical analysis.

May God save the people of Taxes, and all other states affected by tornadoes and storm. Let us pray that the damage will stop.

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Dec 27, 2015 16:43:25   #
Gener
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Thanks. Very informative Biblical analysis.

May God save the people of Taxes, and all other states affected by tornadoes and storm. Let us pray that the damage will stop.


Here is an article that may or may not have any meaning to anyone. I don't validate or deny the information here, but it may be of interest to some.

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/57122/biblical-reasons-stand-with-israel-world-combats-terrorism-jerusalem/?utm_source=Breaking+Israel+News&utm_campaign=30eab0de3d-BIN_evening_12_15&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b6d3627f72-30eab0de3d-86661313#1MteCG3OkbTuAYvF.97

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Dec 27, 2015 16:49:52   #
Gener
 



And another article that may appeal to some, but probably not to everyone.

http://skywatchtv.com/2015/12/27/isis-carving-blood-soaked-crucifix-on-europe-with-targeted-attacks-to-assassinate-pope-fulfill-army-of-rome-prophecy-and-entice-anti-christ/

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Dec 27, 2015 16:52:25   #
Gener
 


A better way to get this info.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/482108/isis-carving-crucifix-in-europe-with-targeted-attacks

targeted-attacks

For some reason part of the site did not come across.

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