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Dec 12, 2015 16:53:41   #
mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma
 
mabear19 wrote:
DON"T FORGOT ABOUT THIS LAW......Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration
The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by "force, violence, or other unconstitutional means." This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is being ignored by the White House.Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life's guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any "organization" that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited
DON"T FORGOT ABOUT THIS LAW......Islam, by la... (show quote)


O'numnuts can't even spell law much less pay attention to it.

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Dec 12, 2015 16:54:22   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
that is imposing yourself into what GOD determines. A bit above your paygrade me thinks


Docadhoc wrote:
My friend, God did not give you will and spirit for you to abandon.

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Dec 12, 2015 19:35:43   #
RWNJ
 
Docadhoc wrote:
My friend, God did not give you will and spirit for you to abandon.


I haven't abandoned hope. Hope in God, that is. The only thing that can save America is a nation wide revival. Government isn't the problem. It's our society, which is a direct reflection of the values of the citizens of this country. The only way to have real change, and save our nation, is to turn back to God. He is the only one who can save us. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. Or fortunately, depending on how you look at things. I believe that Jesus is returning soon. All the signs are there. I'm hoping and praying for it.

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Dec 12, 2015 20:02:30   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
ron vrooman wrote:
religion is of man; spirituality comes from within, it is corrupted when one starts to compromise with others as compromise is lose lose. to me religion is a codified
system of beliefs. my spirituality is my beliefe in a supreme being. I need no other input.


Religion comes from within. The name you give it is up to you..

Just don't get caught up in labels. You call it spirituality because you allow yourself to see only the downside of religion. Religion has its share of corrupt liars just like all else does. Don't hold that against religion. Hold it against those who are corrupt.

Religion in of itself is a construct made of faith. If you have faith, you have religion...or spirituality.....or what ever you wish to call it. The point is that you have it. If you chose to ignore the creator by saying you don't need input, that is a choice you will deal with later.

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Dec 12, 2015 21:41:06   #
tom25411 Loc: WV
 
Death to all things Islamic

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Dec 12, 2015 23:30:05   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
mabear19 wrote:
DON"T FORGOT ABOUT THIS LAW......Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration
The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by "force, violence, or other unconstitutional means." This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is being ignored by the White House.Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life's guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any "organization" that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited
DON"T FORGOT ABOUT THIS LAW......Islam, by la... (show quote)




You may have just found the reason Obama will not call them Islamic Terrorists......If he did call them that, then this law would have to be enforced...SUPPOSEDLY...Thanks for the info.... :thumbup:

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Dec 12, 2015 23:57:14   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
RWNJ wrote:
There has been a lot of debate about this, but it all boils down to one thing. The safety of American citizens

So, here's an analogy that even the dumbest of liberals can understand.

Suppose these immigrants were snakes. Most of these snakes are harmless, but a few of them are poisonous. Someone wants these snakes to come live in your home. Not in a cage either. They get to slither around your home. How would you feel about that?


Another one: There is a bowl with 1000 M&Ms in it. Only 10 of them are poison and will kill you. How many will you eat??

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Dec 13, 2015 00:42:53   #
RWNJ
 
snowbear37 wrote:
Another one: There is a bowl with 1000 M&Ms in it. Only 10 of them are poison and will kill you. How many will you eat??


Well. M&M's can't bite me. Snakes can. You don't have to eat muslims to find a terrorist either. :mrgreen:

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Dec 13, 2015 04:47:36   #
Orrie
 
PeterS wrote:
You mean to say all those Christians who kill people aren't Christian? Strange then how you think those Muslims who kill represent true Muslims...


You know! Hitler used Muslim warlords to do some of his dirty work on the Jews during WWII. Will you be using Muslims to kill Christians, Nazi boy?

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Dec 13, 2015 13:32:15   #
Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere
 
ron vrooman wrote:
that is imposing yourself into what GOD determines. A bit above your paygrade me thinks


Quite the contrary. It is being humble enough to listen.

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Dec 13, 2015 15:22:21   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Orrie wrote:
You know! Hitler used Muslim warlords to do some of his dirty work on the Jews during WWII. Will you be using Muslims to kill Christians, Nazi boy?


Yes, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Huesseni, a muslim "cleric" of high regard, had personally met with Adolph, organuzed an all muslim unit of the SS dedicated to murdering Jews, and among them 5,000 children that had been separated from their parents ...swill bunch.... My Dad was stationed in N. Africa with the 15th USAAC a B-24 pilot, who told me that the Arabs were known to murder Allied soldiers they caught alone..... swell, bunch, just....swell......

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Dec 13, 2015 15:26:25   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
So why does Obama want to bring in Syrian refugees? Read on


What is a Hijrah?


Large scale mass migrations become invasions and this actually appears to be a hijrah as he describes it .........this is NOT going to end well.



This not only applies to Europe, but also applies to the USA. They are already here.




It appears the policies of the liberal socialist leaders in Europe and the US do not want to keep these lands from being overrun. Why???





I couldn't figure out why other Arab countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, etc.) weren't taking in refugees, so I started digging.





Hijrah is jihad by emigration. It means moving to a new land in order to bring Islam there and is considered in Islam to be a holy and revered action. "And whoever emigrates for the cause of Allah will find on the earth many locations and abundance, and whoever leaves his home as an emigrant to Allah and His Messenger and then death overtakes him, his reward has already become incumbent upon Allah." (4:100) So if a Muslim dies in the process, that's essentially the same as being a suicide bomber, his reward is automatic. This explains the great eagerness to undertake such a perilous journey.





Muhammad and his followers emigrated from Mecca to Yathrib/Medina in 622 CE. It was there that he became a military leader.





This is where all the commands to commit violence against unbelievers originate from. It's important to note that the Islamic calendar marks this as the beginning of Islam.


This current massive hijrah was announced last January although few paid the announcement much attention.





A supporter (or member) of ISIS uploaded a document in Arabic that urged Muslims to get to Lybia for its proximity to southern Europe and for the important tactical value of its illegal immigration circuits to facilitate infiltration of European cities ("It has a long coast and looks upon the southern Crusader states, which can be reached with ease by even a rudimentary boat").





In February, transcripts of telephone intercepts published in Italy said ISIS was threatening to send 500,000 migrants as a "psychological weapon" against Europe. The Italian Minister for the Interior, Angelino Alfano, said at the time, "If the militias of the Caliphate advance faster than the decisions of the international community how can we put out the fire in Libya and stem the migration flows?





We are at risk of an exodus without precedent."





Also in February, the Turkish intelligence service warned police that up to 3,000 trained jihadists were seeking to cross into Turkey from Syria and Iraq and then travel through Bulgaria and Hungary into western Europe.





From Syria, to Hungary, then into the rest of Europe. Sound familiar?





In May, a Libyan government adviser warned that Islamic State operatives were being "smuggled to Europe in migrant boats."





ISIS is profiting from the human trafficking trade, forcing boat owners to hand over their profits or be killed.





Some ISIS operatives are already sheltered in safe houses in the south of the Europe. Groups of men, 17 to 25, from Palestine and Syria, cross into Bulgaria and from there move into the rest of the EU. A former Al Qaeda double agent told the BBC that he knew of two Egyptian brothers who reached Italy from Libya, accompanied by men who were "deeply religious and fluent in Italian and French."








Go watch the videos of those "refugees" again. How many of the "refugees" are 17-25 year old men?





If that doesn't convince you, we already know terrorists are coming through with the waves of refugees: a week ago five men were arrested attempting to cross the Bulgarian-Macedonian border with Islamic State propaganda, specific Jihadists prayers, and decapitation videos on their phones.





They had been posing as refugees. UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage warned: "I fear we face a direct threat to our civilization if we allow large numbers of people from that war torn region into Europe."





Other Muslim countries are not "taking in" these "refugees" because this is a hijrah into Europe. This is no humanitarian crisis. It is an invasion. Its goal is to transform Europe: overtax its economies, tear down its wealthiest nations, re-draw the demographics and, of course, the culture.





Sources:


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-milita...dviser-1501692


https://www.rt.com/news/233839-isis-...ck-diplomatic/


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/ro...ah-into-europe


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/is...ng-as-refugees


http://www.independentsentinel.com/i...byan-refugees/


http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/wp...for-the-is.pdf


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...on-bombed.html


RWNJ wrote:
There has been a lot of debate about this, but it all boils down to one thing. The safety of American citizens

So, here's an analogy that even the dumbest of liberals can understand.

Suppose these immigrants were snakes. Most of these snakes are harmless, but a few of them are poisonous. Someone wants these snakes to come live in your home. Not in a cage either. They get to slither around your home. How would you feel about that?

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Dec 13, 2015 16:12:53   #
mabear19
 
DON"T FORGOT ABOUT THIS LAW......Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration
The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by "force, violence, or other unconstitutional means." This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is being ignored by the White House.Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life's guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any "organization" that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited

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Dec 13, 2015 16:27:04   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
and those that beat their swords into plows will plow for those that did not.

I usually dislike the passive aggressive usually Christian holier than though.

Humble my ass.


Docadhoc wrote:
Quite the contrary. It is being humble enough to listen.

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