Civil War? Come on now give those in control a little credit for having a few brains. To maintain control of the masses for the most part the system needs to see that most things need...

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Come on now give those in control a little credit for having a few brains.

To maintain control of the masses for the most part the system needs to see that most things need to run some what smoothly.

If the system that provides that moneys flow in to the hands of those that rule wants that money to keeps flowing they will stop some what short of complete shut down of the system.

That is not to say that they won't let people suffer.

The idea behind it all is to see just how close to having it all they can come with out killing the system.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Floyd Brown wrote:

Come on now give those in control a little credit ... (show quote)

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If you are referring solely to the greedy but unknowing, I agree with you. If you are specifically referring to those who will be responsible for the collapse, I disagree. This is a well planned coup, and it has been well thought out ahead of time; so we can trust it is not actually headed by Obama or leaders of Congress or SCOTUS, but by either the Arab states or the UN. I have a feeling the political left will suffer just as much as the political right. They are under less stress now because the left isn't as aware as the rest of us.

Ve'hoe

Lets see,,,, the last time we had a failed loser attorney,(from Illinois),, who thought he knew what was best for everyone, because he was smart,,, and imposed his will over the constitution,,,, was,,,,, uhhh,,, Abe Lincoln,,,,,and that turned out Okie dokie,,,,, ??????? only 3/4 of a million dead,,,, 500000 less than Planned parenthood murders every year..... Hell nobody could have seen that coming!!!

Tasine wrote:

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Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Ve'hoe wrote:

Lets see,,,, the last time we had a failed loser attorney,(from Illinois),, who thought he knew what was best for everyone, because he was smart,,, and imposed his will over the constitution,,,, was,,,,, uhhh,,, Abe Lincoln,,,,,and that turned out Okie dokie,,,,, ??????? only 3/4 of a million dead,,,, 500000 less than Planned parenthood murders every year..... Hell nobody could have seen that coming!!!

...is the punchline: "I freed who?"

Ve'hoe

No,,,, it is "Well other than that,,, Mrs Lincoln,,, How was the play??"

Dummy Boy wrote:

...is the punchline: "I freed who?"

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Tasine wrote:

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I am of the firm belief that the most of our problems are being caused by our self.

I like to think mot so much as you or I but by the greed of those of us with the most power & influence.

I feel that those with the most fear the problems we all face will over come them also.

They have the misguided faith in getting more power to stave off failure on their part.

The whole country has been weakened by their greed already.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Floyd Brown wrote:

I am of the firm belief that the most of our problems are being caused by our self.

I like to think mot so much as you or I but by the greed of those of us with the most power & influence.

I feel that those with the most fear the problems we all face will over come them also.

They have the misguided faith in getting more power to stave off failure on their part.

The whole country has been weakened by their greed already.

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I hope we both live to learn the truth, if truth can be known.
:-)

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Tasine wrote:

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I hope we both live to learn the truth, if truth can be known.
:-)

And to that I say may that day be on it's way.

We all can not have it all.

There is much that we have can have that leaves us with much to enjoy.

The movement towards better understanding between us is a bright spot in my day.

The spots may be small but as we see more the days will be brighter.

May we all find bright spots as we move through life.

boatbob2

WE can ALWAYS stop the politicians BULL SHIT,by using a short rope,Hanging from a tall tree..........

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

boatbob2 wrote:

WE can ALWAYS stop the politicians BULL SHIT,by using a short rope,Hanging from a tall tree..........

That method has been use before.

Just how do you propose that it will be used in a just & fair way?

I am liberal & there are some on this site that would use that same method against liberals.

There may be others that would suggest it be used on conservatives.

Bottom line it is not the best solution.

boatbob2

HELL,hang em all,God will sort the good from the bad.....

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Floyd Brown wrote:

That method has been use before.

Just how do you propose that it will be used in a just & fair way?

I am liberal & there are some on this site that would use that same method against liberals.

There may be others that would suggest it be used on conservatives.

Bottom line it is not the best solution.

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If anyone actually wants a REAL answer, it is ANARCHY, peaceful anarchy, except, of course for those who prefer violence. In anarchy, however, WE CAN FIGHT BACK WITHOUT FEAR GOV WILL THROW US IN THE PEN.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Tasine wrote:

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If anyone actually wants a REAL answer, it is ANARCHY, peaceful anarchy, except, of course for those who prefer violence. In anarchy, however, WE CAN FIGHT BACK WITHOUT FEAR GOV WILL THROW US IN THE PEN.

I am sorry but I fail to see how living in a state of Anarchy would be better in any way that we have now.

It is a state in which the worse people would rule.

Isn't it the case today that the world is run by those that put their personal greed first.

Civilization has advanced on cooperation.

Just which point in history do you wish to go back to.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

Floyd Brown wrote:

I am sorry but I fail to see how living in a state of Anarchy would be better in any way that we have now.

It is a state in which the worse people would rule.

Isn't it the case today that the world is run by those that put their personal greed first.

Civilization has advanced on cooperation.

Just which point in history do you wish to go back to.

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I don't know how to make you understand. Rulers would rule ONLY SO LONG AS OTHERS ALLOWED IT. Americans are so wimped down that obviously they cannot grasp the protection of their own selves. Jeez!!!!!!!!!

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Tasine wrote:

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I don't know how to make you understand. Rulers would rule ONLY SO LONG AS OTHERS ALLOWED IT. Americans are so wimped down that obviously they cannot grasp the protection of their own selves. Jeez!!!!!!!!!

When I was 40 Yrs younger I might have bought in to you views.

But having seen what has & is going on I can only feel that it is best for all to have a bit of concern for the well being of others that we all need to have & do.

Anarchy is what we have when to much of what takes place is with out care & concern for others.

We are very close to that point now.