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Jul 11, 2015 12:26:08   #
Marcus Johnson
 
DamnYANKEE wrote:
You better get yo 10 other BOOS so you can Really be tough . Out number them . Right ??? ASSWIPE :roll: :roll: :roll:


Another Internet tough guy! LOL!
FXCKING GROW UP MORON!

Does your mom know you're on her computer again?

Fxcking idiot :thumbdown:

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Jul 11, 2015 12:27:38   #
moldyoldy
 
MsAtta2d wrote:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, man! I worked at the Hood County offices in Granbury, TX typing from the written manuscripts that were done at the County Clerk's office on a daily basis of business, etc, done in and around the county. They wanted to have all of it stored on computer rather than have the books laying around and open to any number of disasters.
What you're trying to put forth does not hold up under closer scrutiny. The clan started in Tennessee in 1865 and spread quickly, but by 1869 it was waning in Texas.
So let's keep this on a even playing field, shall we?
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, man! I work... (show quote)







http://247wallst.com/special-report/2015/07/09/10-states-with-the-most-hate-groups/5/

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Jul 11, 2015 12:52:16   #
moldyoldy
 
Just like today, the ignorant being led by the kochs, against their own interests. The poor southerners supported the plantation aristocracy.
should win the election in 1860.

The South was committed to an agrarian way of life. It was a land where profitable and efficient plantations worked by slave labor produced cotton for the world market. It was also a land where a majority of its white population was made up of subsistence farmers who lived isolated lives on the edge of poverty and whose literacy rates were low compared with those in the more densely populated North.

The South nevertheless was beginning to industrialize, a factor that added to the social tensions surfacing during the 1850s between the haves–plantation owners and professional groups in the few urban centers–and the have-nots–an increasingly restive yeoman or small-farmer group. But the issue of black servitude provided cohesion for the white bloc and contributed greatly to a patriarchal system wherein the masses of the whites still looked to a planter-professional elite for political and social guidance. Although the northern masses might also defer to the opinions of the powerful and living conditions among the urban poor were precarious, educational levels were far higher than in the South. The ethic of free capital and free labor was deeply ingrained in the cities and in farm communities as well. It was this ethic that formed the ideological basis for a broad antislavery movement.

Southern leaders were concerned over internal stresses in their society and were increasingly aware of the moral and social repugnance the slave system engendered not only in the North but also in Western Europe. Southern leadership, though surely not unified in its response to a political victory of antislavery forces in 1860, began as early as 1858 to prepare its section for separation from the Union.

Even though the Republican platform of 1860 disavowed any move that would interfere with slavery where the custom and the law of a given state upheld it, many of the more extreme opinion makers in the South promoted the idea that a Republican victory meant eventual emancipation and social and political equality for their black population. So inflamed were the voters in South Carolina that before the election of Lincoln, they had chosen a convention that was committed to secession on news of a Republican victory. The situation of other states in the Deep South was more complicated. Elections were held promptly, but the results showed considerable division on secession. Three factions emerged: those for immediate secession, those who sought delay until the policy of the new administration toward the slave states became clear, and those who believed they could bargain with the new administration. All these groups, however, were united in support of the doctrine of secession. With this idea as a basic commitment, the better organized immediate secessionists were able to prevail.

The close connection between the right to revolution and separation from the governing power in the spirit of 1776 was an early theme in the provisional Confederacy. To be sure, the revolution was posited as a peaceful one. Separation from a Union perceived to be under the control of a tyrannical power that would destroy southern institutions was the objective.

Confederate leaders at this early date thought that the North would not fight to preserve the Union. But the provisional government nevertheless began purchasing arms and munitions, and seceded states started to equip and train their militias.

State and Confederate government authorities seized federal forts, arsenals, and other national property within their jurisdiction. When Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated on March 4, 1861, federal troops held only Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, Fort Pickens off the Florida coast, and one or two other outposts in the South.

Concerned about the loyalty of the border states of Virginia, Maryland, Missouri, and Kentucky, the new administration went so far as to offer the slave states an amendment to the Constitution that would guarantee slavery where it legally existed. Lincoln himself in his inaugural address pledged only to hold federal property that was in the possession of the Union on March 4, 1861.

The provisional Confederacy likewise sought vigorously to stimulate secession sentiment in the border states. Had all the border slave states thrown in their lot with one or the other government, there might not have been a war, or conversely, separation might well have become an accomplished fact. As it was, however, the prompt action of the Lincoln administration after the bombardment and surrender of Fort Sumter secured Maryland and Delaware for the Union. Kentucky proclaimed its neutrality but eventually remained loyal to the Union. Missouri, too, though a major battleground for the contending forces, contributed most of its resources in men and matériel to the Union.

Once the war was joined, waves of patriotic sentiment swept over North and South. Vocal political opposition would exist on both sides, but it was never strong enough to overthrow either government. Secession as revolution, an early theme in southern rhetoric, was not emphasized after the formation of the Confederacy. Rather, Jefferson’s compact theory was enshrined in its Constitution. A nation could not have been formed, nor a war fought, if the states were wholly independent of any central authority.

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Jul 11, 2015 13:20:00   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Rufus wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I would love to do this. Many of us have been advocating this for years because we have an out of control tyrannical govt. that causes more harm than good. Our govt. has become the enemy. The major problem I see is the govt. won't want to relinquish the money the South provides. We would survive and prosper. The govt. ( would fail ) and they know this. Abraham Lincoln started the Civil War by using the federal govt. to attack the States who had the right to their own sovereign State Constitutions which trumped the federal rights. He attacked his own people. It had nothing to do with slavery initially. It has nothing to do with slavery now and I don't know anyone other than democrats that advocate slavery. If we secede it is a matter of survival and the ability to exercise our belief in liberty and Almighty God.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumb... (show quote)

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I disagree with "The Slavery Issue", the North & lincoln used Slavery as "part of the excuse" to force The South's hand...

States rights per the Northers take was the right to keep Slaves, and one more time the Northern Democrats, Wiggs & New Republican Party had an issue all could agree on, Slavery was bad and thus the South was bad and needed to be punished, via higher tariffs and taxes and attitude of submission...

Overly simplified but gives a broader reason for The North's invasion of The South...

I do agree that the Democrats support and engage in Slavery today, via Welfare...

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Jul 11, 2015 13:28:49   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
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I disagree with "The Slavery Issue", the North & lincoln used Slavery as "part of the excuse" to force The South's hand...

States rights per the Northers take was the right to keep Slaves, and one more time the Northern Democrats, Wiggs & New Republican Party had an issue all could agree on, Slavery was bad and thus the South was bad and needed to be punished, via higher tariffs and taxes and attitude of submission...

Overly simplified but gives a broader reason for The North's invasion of The South...

I do agree that the Democrats support and engage in Slavery today, via Welfare...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br br I disagree with &qu... (show quote)


:thumbup:

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Jul 11, 2015 13:38:48   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Bruce Kennedy wrote:
That was one extremely ignorant post.


The only ignorant posts are the ones you post. I hate your socialistic ideology. It appears to me that your frame of reference comes from a welfare recipient. You are the epitome of the enemy of America. A Communist. Khrushchev said "we will bury you." You are the "we" in his statement.

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Jul 11, 2015 13:48:26   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Comment wrote:
The only ignorant posts are the ones you post. I hate your socialistic ideology. It appears to me that your frame of reference comes from a welfare recipient. You are the epitome of the enemy of America. A Communist. Khrushchev said "we will bury you." You are the "we" in his statement.


Amen. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 11, 2015 14:01:55   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Rufus wrote:
:thumbup:


I might add: That Negros and Caucasians love being slaves. While ambitious people work, welfare recipients lay in bed all day, have sex, make babies, watch TV and eat ice cream all on the backs of working people. Being a slave is a good thing. Slavery has been redefined. in the old day slaves had to work dawn to dusk. In return for their labor they received food and lodging. Today they receive food and lodging and a sum to spend at casinos and buy a car and they don't have to work for it. There is no mistake; working people are slaves to welfare recipients and the massive Federal Government whose Congress, Courts, president and bureaucrats make themselves multiple millionaires while in gov. all the while congratulating themselves for their sacrifice to government service. Low information voters must feel sorry for them and continue to vote them back into office so they can continue to dole out welfare to them .Politician will never surrender their positions and welfare people will not surrender theirs until the US can borrow any more and nobody gets a gov check. Greece to grease. The gov will take all savings. What then? How can any conservative love the beast Bruce Kennedy who wants to destroy the country?

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Jul 11, 2015 14:07:55   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Comment wrote:
I might add: That Negros and Caucasians love being slaves. While ambitious people work, welfare recipients lay in bed all day, have sex, make babies, watch TV and eat ice cream all on the backs of working people. Being a slave is a good thing. Slavery has been redefined. in the old day slaves had to work dawn to dusk. In return for their labor they received food and lodging. Today they receive food and lodging and a sum to spend at casinos and buy a car and they don't have to work for it. There is no mistake; working people are slaves to welfare recipients and the massive Federal Government whose Congress, Courts, president and bureaucrats make themselves multiple millionaires while in gov. all the while congratulating themselves for their sacrifice to government service. Low information voters must feel sorry for them and continue to vote them back into office so they can continue to dole out welfare to them .Politician will never surrender their positions and welfare people will not surrender theirs until the US can borrow any more and nobody gets a gov check. Greece to grease. The gov will take all savings. What then? How can any conservative love the beast Bruce Kennedy who wants to destroy the country?
I might add: That Negros and Caucasians love being... (show quote)


Yep. Balack Hussein Osama is the largest slave master in American history. Pure Evil.

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Jul 11, 2015 14:08:32   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Comment wrote:
I might add: That Negros and Caucasians love being slaves. While ambitious people work, welfare recipients lay in bed all day, have sex, make babies, watch TV and eat ice cream all on the backs of working people. Being a slave is a good thing. Slavery has been redefined. in the old day slaves had to work dawn to dusk. In return for their labor they received food and lodging. Today they receive food and lodging and a sum to spend at casinos and buy a car and they don't have to work for it. There is no mistake; working people are slaves to welfare recipients and the massive Federal Government whose Congress, Courts, president and bureaucrats make themselves multiple millionaires while in gov. all the while congratulating themselves for their sacrifice to government service. Low information voters must feel sorry for them and continue to vote them back into office so they can continue to dole out welfare to them .Politician will never surrender their positions and welfare people will not surrender theirs until the US can borrow any more and nobody gets a gov check. Greece to grease. The gov will take all savings. What then? How can any conservative love the beast Bruce Kennedy who wants to destroy the country?
I might add: That Negros and Caucasians love being... (show quote)


Very good post...spot on. By the way, Bruce will make a good target the same as all these gave-up-on-everything assholes on OPP

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Jul 11, 2015 14:22:01   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
cesspool jones wrote:
Very good post...spot on. By the way, Bruce will make a good target the same as all these gave-up-on-everything assholes on OPP

I wish Bill O'Reily would write a sequel to his book. This one could be about Bruce. He could call it, " Killing Kennedy Two - A Blessing On America "
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jul 11, 2015 14:34:34   #
Nickolai
 
MsAtta2d wrote:
This is an interesting piece I received in an email. I asked the writer for permission to share it, and he said as long as I gave him recognition for his work - so here it is and here's the question: Should the South rise again?

July 4, 2015, Saint Augustine, Florida

Some personal observations as we embark on our 240th year since declaring our independence from the British: Our once-great nation is severely fragmented, deeply divided along racial, ethnic, regional, behavioral, and economic fissures. It is crippled by a pitiful absence of any political leadership essential to regenerating even the mildest of cohesion among the various factions.

Our once mighty military has degenerated into a plethora of ill-conceived social experiments overseen by a crazy-quilt collection of queers, freaks, multi-culturalists, hair-brained academicians, and neo-Bolsheviks and led by a fairy-like delusional dreamer who longs to be a dictator.

Our former allies and friends overseas now see us as a laughingstock advocating a foreign policy of weakness, appeasement, withdrawal, and surrender.

There are those among us who recognize how far we have fallen, and there are even among them those who demand to bring back our country to its greatness. But this is an unrealistic dream. We have come too far along the road to serfdom to ever restore the country to what it once was.

We have arrived at a crossroads and each of us must decide if we prefer to live in freedom or if we wish to have an all-powerful government protect us and direct us in all that we do. Having made that choice, those who prefer freedom must band together politically to bring about a divorce, as it were, preferably peaceful, from those adhering to the nanny state.

By and large, we residents of the South, basically consisting of the former Confederate States, have realized for some time that we have little, if anything, in common with those residents of other regions of what currently constitutes the United States. Essentially, a reconstituting of the former Confederacy is in order, and the sooner the better.

~ Robert A. Schultz
This is an interesting piece I received in an emai... (show quote)




This piece is reminiscent of the kind of speeches Adolph was making as the Nazi party rose to prominence in the 1920's and 30's

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Jul 11, 2015 14:38:32   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Nickolai wrote:
This piece is reminiscent of the kind of speeches Adolph was making as the Nazi party rose to prominence in the 1920's and 30's

Quite the opposite.

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Jul 11, 2015 14:44:33   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Nickolai wrote:
This piece is reminiscent of the kind of speeches Adolph was making as the Nazi party rose to prominence in the 1920's and 30's


Do you realize that future salvation for this country will come from the south? Take your made up racist bullshit and pound sand you pathetic litto boy

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Jul 11, 2015 19:21:04   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Rufus wrote:
I wish Bill O'Reily would write a sequel to his book. This one could be about Bruce. He could call it, " Killing Kennedy Two - A Blessing On America "
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ruf: you are too funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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