Windmills and solar plants kill hundreds of times more birds than oil spills (Page 4): Power is of no value if we've become extinct.

payne1000

NorthernLight wrote:

What value should we place on dispatchable power that's there when needed?

Power is of no value if we've become extinct.

NorthernLight

payne1000 wrote:

Power is of no value if we've become extinct.

So are you arguing for what you would like to happen, or for what you can actually effect? Call up the power company and tell them to stop using coal and gas. Let me know their response.

son of witless

payne1000 wrote:

Sad that they get to breathe cleaner air?

Sad that a good portion of their energy will be supplied free by the good ole sun?

Solar is not free. Since you believe that it doesn't say much for you.

payne1000

NorthernLight wrote:

So are you arguing for what you would like to happen, or for what you can actually effect? Call up the power company and tell them to stop using coal and gas. Let me know their response.

My power company here in Texas is a non-profit co-op. They buy power from the cheapest sources they can find. They buy power from me since I have an 11 kilowatt home solar system. I'm paid retail for all the power I produce. Last year I produced more energy than I used and was paid for the difference.

payne1000

son of witless wrote:

Solar is not free. Since you believe that it doesn't say much for you.

Once the installation cost is paid, solar is free.
The energy I produce with my 11 kilowatt home solar system is fed back into the electrical grid. I am paid retail for all I produce. I actually made money last year while reducing the amount of time the polluting fossil fuel power plants have to run.

NorthernLight

payne1000 wrote:

My power company here in Texas is a non-profit co-op. They buy power from the cheapest sources they can find. They buy power from me since I have an 11 kilowatt home solar system. I'm paid retail for all the power I produce. Last year I produced more energy than I used and was paid for the difference.

They still have to generate or buy enough power for all their customers. Right now in the US that means a mix including nukes, coal, oil, gas and renewables.

payne1000

NorthernLight wrote:

They still have to generate or buy enough power for all their customers. Right now in the US that means a mix including nukes, coal, oil, gas and renewables.

Texas leads the country in wind energy. The mix in Texas is moving toward less and less nukes, coal and gas.

Now if they'd just stop spraying us with chemtrails, our sinuses might clear up some.

NorthernLight

payne1000 wrote:

Texas leads the country in wind energy. The mix in Texas is moving toward less and less nukes, coal and gas.

Now if they'd just stop spraying us with chemtrails, our sinuses might clear up some.

Maybe the little green guys in area 51 can help with that.

payne1000

NorthernLight wrote:

Maybe the little green guys in area 51 can help with that.

Why don't you take a deep breath of this.

son of witless

payne1000 wrote:

Once the installation cost is paid, solar is free.
The energy I produce with my 11 kilowatt home solar system is fed back into the electrical grid. I am paid retail for all I produce. I actually made money last year while reducing the amount of time the polluting fossil fuel power plants have to run.

Feelin pretty good bout you self, eh? Your neighbors are paying for your freakin free solar. Tell me you would have done it with out the tax incentives? And in case you have no idea and I am pretty sure you don't, much of the cost of power is having spare capacity. Your free power has to be backed up with good ole fossil fuel technology. You know for those days the FREE Sun don't shine.

And what about when your neighbor paid for solar panels wear out? What, they wear out? You mean free doesn't last forever?

Then there is the cost to the grid. Your stupid free power solar panels don't produce power when it is needed, they produce it when they feel like it. Then you get to a point, maybe 30 or 40% where the costs to the grid are no longer feasible. I used to know the figure, but can't remember anymore.

You go right on believing you are saving Mother Earth and those lil polar bear cubs.

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

son of witless wrote:

Feelin pretty good bout you self, eh? Your neighbo... (show quote)

LOL! Good post.

I like to remind people that the only reliable thing about solar power is it doesn't work every night.

NorthernLight

Voice of Reason wrote:

LOL! Good post.

I like to remind people that the only reliable thing about solar power is it doesn't work every night.

A Russian cosmonaut, an American astronaut and a blonde were drinking in a bar one night. The Russian bragged that his country was the first in space. The American bragged that his country was the first to set foot on the moon. The blonde then announced that blondes would be the first to set foot on the sun. When the others told her that they would be burned to death if they did that, she replied "well, we'll do it at night, silly."

Voice of Reason Loc: Earth

NorthernLight wrote:

A Russian cosmonaut, an American astronaut and a blonde were drinking in a bar one night. The Russian bragged that his country was the first in space. The American bragged that his country was the first to set foot on the moon. The blonde then announced that blondes would be the first to set foot on the sun. When the others told her that they would be burned to death if they did that, she replied "well, we'll do it at night, silly."

That wasn't some blonde, it was Obama's science advisor.

Nickolai

payne1000 wrote:

Windows on your home and house cats kill more birds each year than either solar or windmills.

Most of the windmills in our area have been replaced with giant windmills that turn much slower and generate twice the wattage and they turn slow enough that the bird life can easily avoid the blades

Nickolai

son of witless wrote:

AS I always say to liberals when they say something unbelievable. Prove it!!!!!!

When are you going to prove all your stupid shit