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hprinze Loc: Central Florida

Yoho says the fake birth certificate issue distracts from more important problems.
He is correct in that the MORE IMPORTANT PROBLEM is the FACT that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the U.S., no matter where he was born.

http://theghostfighters.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/natural-born-citizen-for-dummies/


Obama is not a natural born citizen, maybe not a citizen at all.

His occupying the office of president is the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the U.S. The fraud is abetted by large numbers of politicians who have assisted him and by maybe even larger numbers who don't have the cojones to do anything about it.

cold iron Loc: White House

The facts are clear, Obama has never produced a valid birth certificate. The law say's plainly that to be President one must be a citizen. Now, after almost 5 years he has failed to do so, what is the hold up? Are 55% of America's want to be law breakes? Is 100% of the Democrat party law breakers? Seem so to me.

viet vet

Obama does have a valid birth certificate he was born of an American citizen , why are all of you people beating this dead horse
If he was not legally an American citizen Hillary and Bill Clinton would have gutted him during the primaries over this issueand they didn't because it has no value and is not true

cold iron Loc: White House

It's a fact that every birth certificate he has handed over is a fake. If you do a little checking you will see it's true. In the year he was born there was no such thing as a PDF file, all birth certificate where hand writen on paper. He can not produce such a birth certificate. Wake up champ.

viet vet

I live in Minnesota and I have requested my birth certificate in the past and have gotten a copy of the original that was notarized , but now and I do not remember when it started I just get a certificate of live birth and I am willing to be that Hawaii does the same, using your criteria I am not a natural born American either so where is your actual proof or are you just warming the air with your words

cold iron Loc: White House

Where you born in the USA? If so did you go down to the city hall in the town you was born and ask for a original copy?
I need not show you any proof. Look it up on the web, there you will find judges findings of the issue.

viet vet

of course you do not need to provide proof that would mess up you flawed logic

Lou Loc: Florida

LOL....Virtually ALL issues that the Tea Party Alleged Patriots whine about , when challenged , "no proof is required " .
And when proof is presented to the whining patriots it is rejected out of hand .

This is especially true of the low IQ Birthers . Depending on the state "hand written " birth certificates are simply no longer available . YOU WILL get a printed copy with the raised State Seal .
The easy proof that eludes these Birther Morons is simply get one of your fellow jerks who lives in Hawaii [ I'm sure there's a few ] to REQUEST A Birth Certificate and see for themselves what they get back from the State of Hawaii .
But that takes simple logic , something Birther are immune to .
The Birther Pipe Dream is to prove Obama a non-citizen ,and thus move for his impeachment and removal from office .
Hold your breath dimbulbs .

hprinze Loc: Central Florida

The constitution says plainly rhat the president must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

The constitution does not define natural born citizen. Nor does it define any other words within it. The definition must be defined by the judicial branch if it needs to be defined. The Supreme Court defined "natural born citizen" in 1875. It's a simple definition and I really can't understand why so many people don't understand it.

http://theghostfighters.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/natural-born-citizen-for-dummies/

hprinze Loc: Central Florida

Obama is not the greatest danger to America

The greatest danger to America is the abject stupidity of an electorate that allows such an evil creature to infest the White House

Lou Loc: Florida

No the greatest danger is brain-fried morons like you . Luckily , people like you comprise 18% of the electorate at most . Republicans don't even want to have anything to do with you .

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

You are correct. You see the citizenship is based on the citizenship of the child's father.

"Extending citizenship to non-citizens through birth based solely upon locality is nothing more than mere municipal law that has no extra-territorial effect as proven from the English practice of it. On the other hand, citizenship by descent through the father is natural law and is recognized by all nations. Thus, a natural-born citizen is one whose citizenship is recognized by law of nations rather than mere local recognition.

Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, James F. Wilson of Iowa, confirmed this in 1866: “We must depend on the general law relating to subjects and citizens recognized by all nations for a definition, and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except that of children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments.”*

When a child inherits the citizenship of their father, they become a natural-born citizen of the nation their father belongs regardless of where they might be born. It should be pointed out that citizenship through descent of the father was recognized by U.S. Naturalization law whereby children became citizens themselves as soon as their father had become a naturalized citizen, or were born in another country to a citizen father."

Obama's father, to whom citizenship lies, was born in Kenya and was only a visiting student in Hawaii. This makes Obama ineligible for president.

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rumitoid

If we can somehow get around the pretty convincing evidence of a Hawiian birth (the two announcements in local papers, recorded--embedded--on microfiche, considered 99.99% impossible to falsify), he does not qualify to become president. Were these sent from Kenyan to lay the groundwork for a Black man to become president, at a time when segregation was rampant and eating at a lunch counter was a wild dream, which could also get that person killed?

It seems to defy all reason to believe that someone who would be the laser focus of the greatest scrutiny--looking for any minutia to ruin his chances and life, funded by very powerful people to whom money literally is no object--somehow slipped through the cracks. Think of the odds. First elected Senator than president without a serious challenge to his citizenship? Overlooked when it was well-known his father was a Kenyan national and of well-known questionable political stripe? Someone with the middle name Hussein in this day and age not marshalling severe and obsessive inspection into every facet of his life and nothing was found, not a scooch?

Lou Loc: Florida

THIS is the rule ginnyt LIKE IT OR NOT , this is what constitutes a U.S. Citizen :


A person is a United States citizen by birth or by naturalization. Persons (except for the children of foreign diplomatic staff) who are born in the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and in most cases, Puerto Rico (PR), the U.S. Virgin Islands (VI), Guam (GU), and the Northern Marianna Islands (MP) are U.S. citizens, as are most persons born abroad to parents (or a parent) who are citizens. All U.S. citizens are considered to be U.S. nationals, but not all nationals are citizens: natives of American Samoa and Swain's Island (AS) are not U.S. citizens but are nationals

You are in error .