ISIS was created by Mossad, CIA and MI6 (Page 2): Right, I just revised my post before I saw yours just now.

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

PoppaGringo wrote:

AT, never with.

Right, I just revised my post before I saw yours just now.

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

How figure? Seems like it worked.

The one's fighting ISIS are Iraq, Iran, Jordan and Syria. We send in drone's now and again and have these three asking to be our friends so we send some help. Now we're able to tell them where to go fight.

payne1000 wrote:

i "American whistle-blower Edward Snowden re... (show quote)

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payne1000 wrote:

You're laughing on the outside while steaming on the inside.

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I say blow up MECCA and make sure there's nothing left standing and then what will they do ?

Anyone ?

payne1000

LAPhil wrote:

Right, I just revised my post before I saw yours just now.

Phil, I'm sure you and Poppagringo are familiar with the term "Hasbarat," because the term describes you both:

"If you have ever visited a blog or on-line discussion group on the Middle East you have doubtless had the misfortune to run into them.

They are known by the language they use: depraved sexual insults, bile, bigotry, threats, disinformation and character assassination. Thats right: Im talking about hasbarats, zionist trolls who infect the Internet with hasbara, pro-Israel propaganda. Of course, mainstream media hasbarats have been around for decades, as have hasbaratchiks, fifth-columns in foreign governments who subvert national policies to serve Israel. The Internet, though, is the latest, some might say the greatest, propaganda playground, and Israel cannot cope with factual, passionate, well-documented stories that expose its war crimes and unrepentant criminality.

If youve come across a hasbarat, on-line or otherwise, you have learned that no amount of reasoned argument or intellectual maturity has any effect. Thats because hasbarats dont care if they come across as ignorant, obnoxious, nasty or inane. All that matters for them is sabotaging criticism of Israel and support for Muslims. They're like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort but have little if any real power.

This deliberate proliferation of on-line hasbarats raises two points. The first concerns why anyone would spend hours a day to prostitute themselves for Israel. Money, of course. Ilan Shturman, deputy director of the Israeli foreign ministrys hasbara department, told an Israeli business newspaper in July that US$150,000 had been allocated for the first stage of a campaign to seed the Internet with hasbarats:

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Our people will not say: Hello, I am from the hasbara department of the Israeli foreign ministry and I want to tell you the following. Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis. They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the foreign ministry developed.
The second point is why Israel felt it had to resort to intellectual fraud on an international scale. The Internet has shown that Israel is a failed oppressor state that commits crimes against humanity as a matter of policy. The last straw for many was Operation Cast Lead, an act of such unspeakable unapologetic sadism that allusions to Nazi Germany are entirely appropriate.

Every day, it seems, the mythic foundations of Israels legitimacy--the holocaust, Jewish victimhood, Jewish people, Israeli democracy, evil Muslims--are exposed for all to see.

In January, Amir Gissin, Israels consul-general in Toronto, sent out a hasbara recruitment letter, which read in part: If you are frustrated or concerned with the portrayal of Israel in Canadian News and with biased depictions, your voice can be heard. Now, think that youre not alone 10,000 voices like yours can respond every day: praise, protest, inform, correct on leading Canadian news websites, in real time, effectively.

The weakness with this tactic, as you probably figured out, is that hasbarats will inevitably shout and whine themselves into irrelevance. Eventually, intelligent people will tune out the zionist boilerplate, the anti-Muslim smears, and the interminable drone about the holocaust. Already, the once-dreaded epithet anti-Semite has lost all significance, as if it ever had any, and the person who hurled it is more likely to be mocked than feared."

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=7937

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payne1000 wrote:

Phil, I'm sure you and Poppagringo are familiar with the term "Hasbarat," because the term describes you both:

"If you have ever visited a blog or on-line discussion group on the Middle East you have doubtless had the misfortune to run into them.

They are known by the language they use: depraved sexual insults, bile, bigotry, threats, disinformation and character assassination. Thats right: Im talking about hasbarats, zionist trolls who infect the Internet with hasbara, pro-Israel propaganda. Of course, mainstream media hasbarats have been around for decades, as have hasbaratchiks, fifth-columns in foreign governments who subvert national policies to serve Israel. The Internet, though, is the latest, some might say the greatest, propaganda playground, and Israel cannot cope with factual, passionate, well-documented stories that expose its war crimes and unrepentant criminality.

If youve come across a hasbarat, on-line or otherwise, you have learned that no amount of reasoned argument or intellectual maturity has any effect. Thats because hasbarats dont care if they come across as ignorant, obnoxious, nasty or inane. All that matters for them is sabotaging criticism of Israel and support for Muslims. They're like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort but have little if any real power.

This deliberate proliferation of on-line hasbarats raises two points. The first concerns why anyone would spend hours a day to prostitute themselves for Israel. Money, of course. Ilan Shturman, deputy director of the Israeli foreign ministrys hasbara department, told an Israeli business newspaper in July that US$150,000 had been allocated for the first stage of a campaign to seed the Internet with hasbarats:

"

Our people will not say: Hello, I am from the hasbara department of the Israeli foreign ministry and I want to tell you the following. Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis. They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the foreign ministry developed.
The second point is why Israel felt it had to resort to intellectual fraud on an international scale. The Internet has shown that Israel is a failed oppressor state that commits crimes against humanity as a matter of policy. The last straw for many was Operation Cast Lead, an act of such unspeakable unapologetic sadism that allusions to Nazi Germany are entirely appropriate.

Every day, it seems, the mythic foundations of Israels legitimacy--the holocaust, Jewish victimhood, Jewish people, Israeli democracy, evil Muslims--are exposed for all to see.

In January, Amir Gissin, Israels consul-general in Toronto, sent out a hasbara recruitment letter, which read in part: If you are frustrated or concerned with the portrayal of Israel in Canadian News and with biased depictions, your voice can be heard. Now, think that youre not alone 10,000 voices like yours can respond every day: praise, protest, inform, correct on leading Canadian news websites, in real time, effectively.

The weakness with this tactic, as you probably figured out, is that hasbarats will inevitably shout and whine themselves into irrelevance. Eventually, intelligent people will tune out the zionist boilerplate, the anti-Muslim smears, and the interminable drone about the holocaust. Already, the once-dreaded epithet anti-Semite has lost all significance, as if it ever had any, and the person who hurled it is more likely to be mocked than feared."

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=7937

Phil, I'm sure you and Poppagringo are familiar wi... (show quote)

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Interesting.. I've heard of something about this but not like this message says...

I need more Intel ...

Also, it is proven the Khazarian's were behind the Holocaust or am I wrong... Hitler was a pawn in a bigger game ?

Orrie

payne1000 wrote:

i "American whistle-blower Edward Snowden re... (show quote)

The evil that men do! Blood thirsty bastards who will have people kill one another so that they can rule the world. I've got news for them. In the end...... they lose!

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

Payne1000, I wanted to thank you for not using anti-Semitic language in our debate about the Palestine- Israeli conflict. I can no longer do that. This post shows that you are not only an anti Zionist which is of course, your right, but an anti-semite which is a form of racism. This paints an entirely different picture of your views. By the way, I am a card carrying Zionist, ( Zionist Organization of America and AIPAC), and I am not arrogant nor do I have a nasty disposition.

payne1000 wrote:

You're obviously a Zionist. It's evidenced by your arrogance and by your nasty disposition.

payne1000

saltwind 78 wrote:

Payne1000, I wanted to thank you for not using anti-Semitic language in our debate about the Palestine- Israeli conflict. I can no longer do that. This post shows that you are not only an anti Zionist which is of course, your right, but an anti-semite which is a form of racism. This paints an entirely different picture of your views. By the way, I am a card carrying Zionist, ( Zionist Organization of America and AIPAC), and I am not arrogant nor do I have a nasty disposition.

Admitting you are a Zionist can be compared to admitting you are a Nazi.

http://www.alanhart.net/the-new-nazis/

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

payne1000 wrote:

Phil, I'm sure you and Poppagringo are familiar with the term "Hasbarat," because the term describes you both:

"If you have ever visited a blog or on-line discussion group on the Middle East you have doubtless had the misfortune to run into them.

They are known by the language they use: depraved sexual insults, bile, bigotry, threats, disinformation and character assassination. Thats right: Im talking about hasbarats, zionist trolls who infect the Internet with hasbara, pro-Israel propaganda. Of course, mainstream media hasbarats have been around for decades, as have hasbaratchiks, fifth-columns in foreign governments who subvert national policies to serve Israel. The Internet, though, is the latest, some might say the greatest, propaganda playground, and Israel cannot cope with factual, passionate, well-documented stories that expose its war crimes and unrepentant criminality.

If youve come across a hasbarat, on-line or otherwise, you have learned that no amount of reasoned argument or intellectual maturity has any effect. Thats because hasbarats dont care if they come across as ignorant, obnoxious, nasty or inane. All that matters for them is sabotaging criticism of Israel and support for Muslims. They're like anti-intellectual stink bombs: designed to cause maximum discomfort but have little if any real power.

This deliberate proliferation of on-line hasbarats raises two points. The first concerns why anyone would spend hours a day to prostitute themselves for Israel. Money, of course. Ilan Shturman, deputy director of the Israeli foreign ministrys hasbara department, told an Israeli business newspaper in July that US$150,000 had been allocated for the first stage of a campaign to seed the Internet with hasbarats:

"

Our people will not say: Hello, I am from the hasbara department of the Israeli foreign ministry and I want to tell you the following. Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis. They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the foreign ministry developed.
The second point is why Israel felt it had to resort to intellectual fraud on an international scale. The Internet has shown that Israel is a failed oppressor state that commits crimes against humanity as a matter of policy. The last straw for many was Operation Cast Lead, an act of such unspeakable unapologetic sadism that allusions to Nazi Germany are entirely appropriate.

Every day, it seems, the mythic foundations of Israels legitimacy--the holocaust, Jewish victimhood, Jewish people, Israeli democracy, evil Muslims--are exposed for all to see.

In January, Amir Gissin, Israels consul-general in Toronto, sent out a hasbara recruitment letter, which read in part: If you are frustrated or concerned with the portrayal of Israel in Canadian News and with biased depictions, your voice can be heard. Now, think that youre not alone 10,000 voices like yours can respond every day: praise, protest, inform, correct on leading Canadian news websites, in real time, effectively.

The weakness with this tactic, as you probably figured out, is that hasbarats will inevitably shout and whine themselves into irrelevance. Eventually, intelligent people will tune out the zionist boilerplate, the anti-Muslim smears, and the interminable drone about the holocaust. Already, the once-dreaded epithet anti-Semite has lost all significance, as if it ever had any, and the person who hurled it is more likely to be mocked than feared."

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=7937

Phil, I'm sure you and Poppagringo are familiar wi... (show quote)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

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saltwind 78 wrote:

Payne1000, I wanted to thank you for not using anti-Semitic language in our debate about the Palestine- Israeli conflict. I can no longer do that. This post shows that you are not only an anti Zionist which is of course, your right, but an anti-semite which is a form of racism. This paints an entirely different picture of your views. By the way, I am a card carrying Zionist, ( Zionist Organization of America and AIPAC), and I am not arrogant nor do I have a nasty disposition.

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Now why on EARTH would you wanna go and do that ?

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payne1000 wrote:

Admitting you are a Zionist can be compared to admitting you are a Nazi.

http://www.alanhart.net/the-new-nazis/

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Sounds like Zions and the Jews are at war with each other ?

payne1000

LAPhil wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

Hasbarats love that video.

It must be included in your training material.

Hasbarats always use ridicule instead of debate.

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

payne1000 wrote:

Hasbarats love that video.

It must be included in your training material.

Hasbarats always use ridicule instead of debate.

If the shoe fits...

payne1000

LAPhil wrote:

If the shoe fits...

I don't wear shoes supplied by Hasbarats.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

Nazis are racists, I am not, although I now believe that you are. A Zionist is a ( Jewish) person that supports a Jewish homeland in Israel. If that makes me a Nazi in your eyes, so be it. I see you found a photo of the Hasidic sect that does not support Israel. They are considered traitors among Jews. I have a picture of them shaking hands with Iranian leaders.

payne1000 wrote:

Admitting you are a Zionist can be compared to admitting you are a Nazi.

http://www.alanhart.net/the-new-nazis/