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May 21, 2015 13:43:30   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Loki wrote:
Thank you. When Rand Paul agrees with several very Liberal Democrats that a law is bad, it is REALLY BAD.
These "astute politicians" are not so much astute as they are weasels looking out for #1. If they were astute, they would realize this law has not been responsible for catching the first terrorist, or preventing anything. The IRS and NSA, as I said, are already using this far in excess of what was intended. It won't get better.


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May 21, 2015 13:52:24   #
W8_4_It
 
Kevyn wrote:
Rarely I agree with you but you are spot on in this matter, sadly no astute politician will let the surveillance act go away because if they vote against it and the next terrorist attack will be blamed on them by someone wanting their seat. What a joke it was calling this domestic spying program "the patriot act" that description is as far from the truth as possible.


Yep. I concur. This may the first time we agreed on something. I'm having another coffee to celebrate.

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May 21, 2015 15:41:08   #
astrolite
 
bylm1 wrote:
Right, Kevyn, but if you will notice, frequently these Congressional Acts are named to falsely lure the voting public into thinking they are just the opposite of what they are. They have been doing that for years. I would like to see some way of making the name of the bill more closely correspond with what it does instead of the opposite, which it usually is.


Sort of like the "Affordable Care Act" it is neither affordable OR healthcare! It is intended to destroy our economy while making the families that own insurance companies even richer! Absurdly high deductables while high premiums and rationed healthcare. but subsidized by our taxes for the useless career welfare bums! So...not only do we pay too much, and get almost nothing, but are taxed more so the insurance companies can rake in even more loot! And still "THE POOR" (as the democraps want to call their useless criminal welfare idiots) GET IT FREE! But now a lot of workers can't afford it! So...the liberals spend our tax money lying about how wonderful it is!

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May 21, 2015 15:45:57   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
astrolite wrote:
Sort of like the "Affordable Care Act" it is neither affordable OR healthcare! It is intended to destroy our economy while making the families that own insurance companies even richer! Absurdly high deductables while high premiums and rationed healthcare. but subsidized by our taxes for the useless career welfare bums! So...not only do we pay too much, and get almost nothing, but are taxed more so the insurance companies can rake in even more loot! And still "THE POOR" (as the democraps want to call their useless criminal welfare idiots) GET IT FREE! But now a lot of workers can't afford it! So...the liberals spend our tax money lying about how wonderful it is!
Sort of like the "Affordable Care Act" ... (show quote)



Now the GOP is telling us how wonderful government snooping without a warrant is, (for our own safety, of course ). I'm reminded of the words of Ben Franklin: "Those who would trade Essential Liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety, and will soon be deprived of both." (Before anyone corrects me on this, bear in mind that Mr. Franklin made this statement numerous times, and didn't repeat it the same way ). These RINO mother's mistakes that have taken over the Senate are not much better than Democrats, and in some cases are worse.

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May 21, 2015 16:39:53   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Loki wrote:
Now the GOP is telling us how wonderful government snooping without a warrant is, (for our own safety, of course ). I'm reminded of the words of Ben Franklin: "Those who would trade Essential Liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety, and will soon be deprived of both." (Before anyone corrects me on this, bear in mind that Mr. Franklin made this statement numerous times, and didn't repeat it the same way ). These RINO mother's mistakes that have taken over the Senate are not much better than Democrats, and in some cases are worse.
Now the GOP is telling us how wonderful government... (show quote)


Much worse. They used the left's method of getting our votes; 'tell them what they want to hear, not what we will do'.

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May 21, 2015 17:05:49   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
astrolite wrote:
Sort of like the "Affordable Care Act" it is neither affordable OR healthcare! It is intended to destroy our economy while making the families that own insurance companies even richer! Absurdly high deductables while high premiums and rationed healthcare. but subsidized by our taxes for the useless career welfare bums! So...not only do we pay too much, and get almost nothing, but are taxed more so the insurance companies can rake in even more loot! And still "THE POOR" (as the democraps want to call their useless criminal welfare idiots) GET IT FREE! But now a lot of workers can't afford it! So...the liberals spend our tax money lying about how wonderful it is!
Sort of like the "Affordable Care Act" ... (show quote)


You've got the right idea. Exactly.

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May 21, 2015 19:33:18   #
astrolite
 
Loki wrote:
Now the GOP is telling us how wonderful government snooping without a warrant is, (for our own safety, of course ). I'm reminded of the words of Ben Franklin: "Those who would trade Essential Liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety, and will soon be deprived of both." (Before anyone corrects me on this, bear in mind that Mr. Franklin made this statement numerous times, and didn't repeat it the same way ). These RINO mother's mistakes that have taken over the Senate are not much better than Democrats, and in some cases are worse.
Now the GOP is telling us how wonderful government... (show quote)


I noticed that the communists took over the democrap party by 1971, And because our state is a closed primary I had to re-register as a Republican, Then after watching closely, I noticed that that party was being run by RINOs or MORE COMMUNISTS! They have ALMOST Taken over the republican party by now! But.....what choice do we have? That's why I voted for Ross Perot, But was disappointed there too.

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May 21, 2015 21:01:00   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Much worse. They used the left's method of getting our votes; 'tell them what they want to hear, not what we will do'.
I love hearing that.

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May 21, 2015 21:01:01   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
Much worse. They used the left's method of getting our votes; 'tell them what they want to hear, not what we will do'.
I love hearing that.

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May 21, 2015 21:03:14   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Loki wrote:
Now the GOP is telling us how wonderful government snooping without a warrant is, (for our own safety, of course ). I'm reminded of the words of Ben Franklin: "Those who would trade Essential Liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety, and will soon be deprived of both." (Before anyone corrects me on this, bear in mind that Mr. Franklin made this statement numerous times, and didn't repeat it the same way ). These RINO mother's mistakes that have taken over the Senate are not much better than Democrats, and in some cases are worse.
Now the GOP is telling us how wonderful government... (show quote)
Just when I thought nobody saw through the Republican agenda. My faith in humanity has been restored.

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May 21, 2015 22:48:17   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Just when I thought nobody saw through the Republican agenda. My faith in humanity has been restored.

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RINO Agenda, not Republican. Agendas are easy when you let any dumbass who can fog a mirror vote.

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May 22, 2015 00:55:09   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Loki wrote:
RINO Agenda, not Republican. Agendas are easy when you let any dumbass who can fog a mirror vote.
Which would be Our Republican leadership. Call them RINOS they are registered Republicans. They are a joke. Most are nuts and people elected them. The whole mess is well a mess. I quit being a part of that mess after being a Republican most of my voteing life.

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May 22, 2015 01:01:40   #
astrolite
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Which would be Our Republican leadership. Call them RINOS they are registered Republicans. They are a joke. Most are nuts and people elected them. The whole mess is well a mess. I quit being a part of that mess after being a Republican most of my voteing life.


I would like for Florida to change to open primaries, so I could register independent! But for now I have to stay rep so I can vote in the primaries.

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May 22, 2015 01:14:46   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
astrolite wrote:
I would like for Florida to change to open primaries, so I could register independent! But for now I have to stay rep so I can vote in the primaries.
Good luck to you. I don't get to vote in primarys either. But I registered Independent anyway.. I have to wait and see who is the top contenders and choose the lesser of two evils. Sucks.

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May 22, 2015 01:16:35   #
astrolite
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Good luck to you. I don't get to vote in primarys either. But I registered Independent anyway.. I have to wait and see who is the top contenders and choose the lesser of two evils. Sucks.


What other states have open primaries?

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