JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I believe he means private sector could do the same job better and more efficient. Can't speak for j but when I say govt I mean Feds and they do screw up most everything.

straightUp Loc: California

First of all Auntie... I didn't say anything about this administration with regard to censorship... After a list of obvious things we can predict I decided to poke a little fun with the last item while also reminding JMHO that Republicans are not beyond censorship. It's not my problem that you respond to any suggestion that Republicans are less than perfect with rabid partisan aggression. Defecation indeed.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

You have summed it up in a nutshell. Part of the complaint was, as I understand it, faster service for those who purchase more services, at a better price per service. sort of like those who give a 10% discount when you buy 10 rolls of paper towels and they give you an extra one for free. That is definitely unfair for those who use only a few paper towels, but of benefit to those who use a lot of them. What do you want to bet that those whose concepts are way left of center will have faster service than the Tea Party, just as the IRS screened the applications for tax exemptions and granted it to the "progressive" causes at a faster rate and more often than to conservative causes.

Anigav6969

No they don't ....and he said screw up everything! Fine...give up medicare...it's run by the govt....give up social security....it's run by the govt....do you want everything to go to the private sector? That's insane

straightUp Loc: California

I agree that it often appears this way. Remember, these agencies are established by Congress as regulators tasked with the business of making sure laws passed by Congress are followed. The FCC itself was established by Congressional statute to regulate interstate communications according to the Communications Act of 1934. If it seems there are a lot of additional rules beyond the details of the law - good chance it's because industry is very good at coming up with a lot of additional ways to get around the law. Personally, I think a lot of this could be handled better at the state level, but government over ISP nevertheless.



On a grand scale, yes... absolutely. This is the Invisible Hand that Adam Smith was describing in his Wealth of Nations. Brilliant stuff. But even Adam Smith and Frederich Hayek and economists from everywhere make the point of relativity and degree. Just because the Invisible Hand is ultimately the god-force of the market doesn't mean it's boundaries won't extend far beyond the comfort zones of your own proximity. In other words, for a middle class American like me, an ever expanding global market is a serious situation that the Invisible Hand is kind of twirling its finger about. I have to believe it's better for the Indian and Chinese that are upgrading... I'm downgrading folks and let me tell ya, it's not as fun. But this is to be expected when markets integrate and the Invisible Hand is leveling out them equilibrium between them. The poor people will upgrade to the median and the rich people will downgrade to the median - it's equalization.

I think the idea of the Invisible Hand can be taken all the way to the brutal nature of Darwin's theories. In other words, when you get killed the demand for beer and pizza at the local place next to the Safeway will drop by one large pie with three toppings per Friday. Check.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

If Medicare and Social Security are such great programs, and don't forget to throw in Obamacare why did congress exempt themselves from those programs? You are being played for a fool.

straightUp Loc: California

There is a lot that people take for granted when it comes to the U.S. Government.

Anigav6969

So you wanna give these to the private sector ? Do you want me to list all the great things this government has done in the past and is doing today that effects your life ? Some things are better in the private sector, some things are not....why don't you let the private sector run your fire dept? So, who's the fool ?

Anigav6969

Just ridiculous :thumbup:

straightUp Loc: California

They didn't exempt themselves from those programs. Congress simply gave themselves with a better alternative. I have a better alternative too; I have insurance through my employer. For years now I've been hearing ACA opponents claiming that I won't get to keep my insurance policy. So far they've been wrong.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You completely ignored my point. By the way I do believe in government. Smaller and more accountable government. Of course government does some things the private sector won't do. For the private sector to put forward it's best effort profit is involved. I didn't specify I am usually referring to the federal government when I talk government. My bad. by the way I have seen private fire departments in small towns do just fine. Not advocating that however. I Guarantee I could set up an investment with no risk that would crush the return of the interest gained on your SS. Just saying.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Semantics. They gave themselves a better deal and your o.k. with that? Good for you. I hope you keep it. My premium doubled and my out of pocket tripled. There are a lot just like me. Your an educated guy. Are you telling me they passed a 2000 page bill with 17 thousand pages of regulations, was declared a tax which they say wasn't intended and know one who voted on it read it.

Anigav6969

But you ignored the original point that I was answering to.....the poster said that the Government screws everything up......I said, that's not true....they do much good, that goes unnoticed...if people here are so against it...take a stand...give up Medicare and send back your SS checks...do you want these programs to go private ? And everyone wants a government that is accountable, efficient etc...why wouldn't they ?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You are right . I did ignore your first point. I just didn't think he meant all government. Military does a damn good job when left up to the generals. Of course I am not going to give up SS or Medicare. I have paid tons into them, however when I started working I believe I should have had a choice. Why does the President and congress have a much better retirement plan an medical then the rest of us peons.

Anigav6969

Well, when someone says " the Government screws up EVERYTHING " I take them at their word...that's what he said....for some reason, you are interpreting what you think he meant....and my point is, regardless of paying into Medicare and SS, they are obviously run by the Government...the Government can do good things....that was my original point to go against his