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Aug 13, 2015 01:24:20   #
pacm Loc: New York upstate north of Manhattan
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...so when you have to answer for your transgressions before God. You're going to hell for what someone else did or didn't do?


God is just and would not hold someone accountable for the sins of another before His throne. However, when a nation is under God's judgement all may suffer the consequences, yet individual believers in Christ would not ultimately be condemned to hell at the final judgement.

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Aug 13, 2015 18:12:11   #
solarkin
 
Theo wrote:
You have no idea how blessed I feel just to see a woman agree with my post. I was afraid women would feel violated by my remarks, yet I know them to be true.

Bless you for your vindication, and the hope you give me that it may yet be not too late. I have long thought there are many silent suffering women in this country, waiting for a man to take a stand, with which they can agree. I do not believe the bad women could have functioned so evilly, without bad men's help; God help us all.

And my constant prayer is and will remain, for God to give us a special blessing of constraint, so that we do not put all blame upon the blatantly sinning population, while ignoring the silent sinning watchers who will not stand up for what is right. And it cannot become a contest of "whose sin is the worst, yours or mine." We all fall short, but we must not all simply point fingers and feel righteous. It is after all, a God fearing Nation we are trying to rouse from sleep, to an awareness of a giant in our midst; rampant Satanistic
"Freedom's" not promoted by our God given constitution.

Thanks again for your response. And God watch over you and keep you.
You have no idea how blessed I feel just to see a ... (show quote)


Quoting scripture is all well and good, but it relieves one generally, of personal responsibility.
Putting it all in "Gods" hand.
We are all responsible, every minute of every day for how things turn out. Who else is here to influence anything?
Every soul on this planet adds influence, with every breath.
If you want to see change, make a change.
It need not be dramatic, even a kind word or deed can change the outcome of any situation

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Aug 13, 2015 18:12:47   #
solarkin
 
Theo wrote:
You have no idea how blessed I feel just to see a woman agree with my post. I was afraid women would feel violated by my remarks, yet I know them to be true.

Bless you for your vindication, and the hope you give me that it may yet be not too late. I have long thought there are many silent suffering women in this country, waiting for a man to take a stand, with which they can agree. I do not believe the bad women could have functioned so evilly, without bad men's help; God help us all.

And my constant prayer is and will remain, for God to give us a special blessing of constraint, so that we do not put all blame upon the blatantly sinning population, while ignoring the silent sinning watchers who will not stand up for what is right. And it cannot become a contest of "whose sin is the worst, yours or mine." We all fall short, but we must not all simply point fingers and feel righteous. It is after all, a God fearing Nation we are trying to rouse from sleep, to an awareness of a giant in our midst; rampant Satanistic
"Freedom's" not promoted by our God given constitution.

Thanks again for your response. And God watch over you and keep you.
You have no idea how blessed I feel just to see a ... (show quote)


Quoting scripture is all well and good, but it relieves one generally, of personal responsibility.
Putting it all in "Gods" hand.
We are all responsible, every minute of every day for how things turn out. Who else is here to influence anything?
Every soul on this planet adds influence, with every breath.
If you want to see change, make a change.
It need not be dramatic, even a kind word or deed can change the outcome of any situation

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Dec 19, 2015 08:48:18   #
Artemis
 
solarkin wrote:
Quoting scripture is all well and good, but it relieves one generally, of personal responsibility.
Putting it all in "Gods" hand.
We are all responsible, every minute of every day for how things turn out. Who else is here to influence anything?
Every soul on this planet adds influence, with every breath.
If you want to see change, make a change.
It need not be dramatic, even a kind word or deed can change the outcome of any situation



I like the way you think :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: so true and with that line of thinking when we take the responsibility that empowers us. I believe whenever we work with an intention of love we are working towards a positive change, and you're right it does start with the man in the mirror. :thumbup:

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Dec 19, 2015 16:21:31   #
solarkin
 
I have had few, ok 3 responses to this thinking.
There must be very few sapiens who connect with our mitochondrial rna.
Time cares not for life.
This Universe is a steamroller.
Undeniable and all powerful.
Reminds me of God.

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Jan 10, 2016 00:07:08   #
lolligagger
 
Theo wrote:
Democrats blame Republicans; Republicans blame Democrats. Where is the truth in the issue? The truth is in society, not politics.

Back in the '60's, (remember the 60's?) when the Hippie movement rolled over into "Bippies" and kept on rollin' until no one knew who was happenin?" Remember when the favored phrase was "Oh, just do whatever you want to, you're only hurting yourself." Remember how wrong that was? They have "done everything that appealed to them," and are destroying a nation.

When Abortion became a lifestyle, for the purpose of birth control, we became a nation of murderers, and all for the wrong reasons. Just so loud-mouthed militant women could ease the burden of their Penis envy and pretend to be men, emulating what they thought was Man's freedom to "Sleep around" only without much "sleep" actually involved!

And then the judges, in the later decades of the 20th century, started reversing the Sodomy laws, and making Homosexuality more like "legal," and the nation just sat there and let it happen.

And no, I do not claim I did what was needed, because I remained part of the silent majority too. But "silent" I will remain no more, and hope and pray it is not too late to warn the people of what was God's greatest national blessing on this old Green Earth.

Look at what God said a long time ago, about how and why a nation falls, as He took Israel to task over their failure to speak out, and notice the similarities between Israel of yesteryear and America of today -

Ezekiel the sixteenth chapter -
"Thou art thy mother's daughter, that lotheth her husband and her children; and thou art the sister of thy sisters, which lothed their husbands and their children: your mother was an Hittite, and your father an Amorite.
46 And thine elder sister is Samaria, she and her daughters that dwell at thy left hand: and thy younger sister, that dwelleth at thy right hand, is Sodom and her daughters.
47 Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted more than they in all thy ways.
48 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.
49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
[Ezek 16:45-50]

It began when the women had to go into the factories in World War II, to replace workers that were drafted into the army. They earned money for the first time, and became relevant in a way they did not previously know, and liked it. When the war ended, many of the women did not quit their wartime jobs, but remained in the work place, leaving their children in day care, and divorcing husbands they no longer felt a need for.

Now look at what is said, as I compare Israel's behaviour with that of our own society-

verse 45 "lothed their husbands and their children:"

Sounds familiar.

verses 46 & 47 "thy younger sister, that dwelleth at thy right hand, is Sodom and her daughters.Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted ]more than they in all thy ways.

verse 48-49 "As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters. 49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom,

"pride" - Ever hear of "Gay Pride?" How about "I aborted and I'm not ashamed of it?" Too much pride in our sins.

"fulness of bread" - No more hunting and gathering, just run down to the local marketplace and purchase. Everything is just made too easy.

"abundance of idleness" equates to "Too much free time on our hands."

"neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." I think that one speaks for itself. Instead of trying to relieve the poor and the needy, we watch local commentators as they try to find somewhere to place blame upon those who need out help, instead of asking us to help their needs.

verse 50 "And they were haughty" WoW! Hit right on target with that one. Ever watch the politicians in Washington when they are asked about some scandal or other with which they are directly involved. They are almost arrogant in their haughty demeanor, even as they dare us to question their behavior.

"and committed abomination before me:" This is when a nation has exhausted the litany of sins without remorse, and God lets them fall into the lowest common denominator of sin categories, which is a natural outcome of unrepentant self-gratification; Homosexuality is the only thing remaining lower than they already practice; and so they begin to first, practice it, then justify it, and finally glamorize it ("Pride parades").

"therefore I took them away as I saw good."

He's working on that one even as we speak. Now, here's where we need to focus real good, because we would not want to think we were not warned, would we?

God sends several different types of "armies" to effect His judgment upon a nation; from Locusts, or pestilences that destroy a nations food supply, bringing starvation; enemy soldiers, to occupy and demean a nation, (usually for far less evil than we are talking about), weather, which destroys crops, and cities by flooding and winds; And disease which destroys life, killing off the population by the millions. That is the one I worry about. We have killed the babies yet unborn by the millions, and God sometimes gives a judgment 7 times as harsh as the sin.

Here is just one example from scripture where God passed a judgment upon Israel, for disobeying the laws of the Sabbath rest.

Leviticus 26:33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste. 34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths. 35 As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it. 36 And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth. 37 And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies.
38 And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. 39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them. 40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;"

And that was His own chosen people; just as America has been blessed more than any other nation because it founded upon Religious complexities, and laid claim to protection from the benevolent God of Israel, we prospered as a nation, more than any other, since Israel, and failed to read the signs as we failed to seek righteousness.

Wake up America; Mayhap we can still be heard in that we repent, and abhor those things which we know God hates in a nation.

One thing we all know, we cannot justify our silence any longer. We have been warned.

We will become like the ancient Israel, about whom it was said "Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes."[Deut 12:8]

"In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes."[Judges 17:6]

"In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes."[Judges 21:25]

"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise."[Prov 12:15]
Democrats blame Republicans; Republicans blame Dem... (show quote)


You need to begin to understand what it truly means to love neighbor and enemy alike, genuinely, to the bottom of your heart. Then all this silliness you presented will be silliness.

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Feb 14, 2016 02:25:30   #
fiatlux
 
Theo wrote:
Democrats blame Republicans; Republicans blame Democrats. Where is the truth in the issue? The truth is in society, not politics.

Back in the '60's, (remember the 60's?) when the Hippie movement rolled over into "Bippies" and kept on rollin' until no one knew who was happenin?" Remember when the favored phrase was "Oh, just do whatever you want to, you're only hurting yourself." Remember how wrong that was? They have "done everything that appealed to them," and are destroying a nation.

When Abortion became a lifestyle, for the purpose of birth control, we became a nation of murderers, and all for the wrong reasons. Just so loud-mouthed militant women could ease the burden of their Penis envy and pretend to be men, emulating what they thought was Man's freedom to "Sleep around" only without much "sleep" actually involved!

And then the judges, in the later decades of the 20th century, started reversing the Sodomy laws, and making Homosexuality more like "legal," and the nation just sat there and let it happen.

And no, I do not claim I did what was needed, because I remained part of the silent majority too. But "silent" I will remain no more, and hope and pray it is not too late to warn the people of what was God's greatest national blessing on this old Green Earth.

Look at what God said a long time ago, about how and why a nation falls, as He took Israel to task over their failure to speak out, and notice the similarities between Israel of yesteryear and America of today -

Ezekiel the sixteenth chapter -
"Thou art thy mother's daughter, that lotheth her husband and her children; and thou art the sister of thy sisters, which lothed their husbands and their children: your mother was an Hittite, and your father an Amorite.
46 And thine elder sister is Samaria, she and her daughters that dwell at thy left hand: and thy younger sister, that dwelleth at thy right hand, is Sodom and her daughters.
47 Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted more than they in all thy ways.
48 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.
49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
[Ezek 16:45-50]

It began when the women had to go into the factories in World War II, to replace workers that were drafted into the army. They earned money for the first time, and became relevant in a way they did not previously know, and liked it. When the war ended, many of the women did not quit their wartime jobs, but remained in the work place, leaving their children in day care, and divorcing husbands they no longer felt a need for.

Now look at what is said, as I compare Israel's behaviour with that of our own society-

verse 45 "lothed their husbands and their children:"

Sounds familiar.

verses 46 & 47 "thy younger sister, that dwelleth at thy right hand, is Sodom and her daughters.Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted ]more than they in all thy ways.

verse 48-49 "As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters. 49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom,

"pride" - Ever hear of "Gay Pride?" How about "I aborted and I'm not ashamed of it?" Too much pride in our sins.

"fulness of bread" - No more hunting and gathering, just run down to the local marketplace and purchase. Everything is just made too easy.

"abundance of idleness" equates to "Too much free time on our hands."

"neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." I think that one speaks for itself. Instead of trying to relieve the poor and the needy, we watch local commentators as they try to find somewhere to place blame upon those who need out help, instead of asking us to help their needs.

verse 50 "And they were haughty" WoW! Hit right on target with that one. Ever watch the politicians in Washington when they are asked about some scandal or other with which they are directly involved. They are almost arrogant in their haughty demeanor, even as they dare us to question their behavior.

"and committed abomination before me:" This is when a nation has exhausted the litany of sins without remorse, and God lets them fall into the lowest common denominator of sin categories, which is a natural outcome of unrepentant self-gratification; Homosexuality is the only thing remaining lower than they already practice; and so they begin to first, practice it, then justify it, and finally glamorize it ("Pride parades").

"therefore I took them away as I saw good."

He's working on that one even as we speak. Now, here's where we need to focus real good, because we would not want to think we were not warned, would we?

God sends several different types of "armies" to effect His judgment upon a nation; from Locusts, or pestilences that destroy a nations food supply, bringing starvation; enemy soldiers, to occupy and demean a nation, (usually for far less evil than we are talking about), weather, which destroys crops, and cities by flooding and winds; And disease which destroys life, killing off the population by the millions. That is the one I worry about. We have killed the babies yet unborn by the millions, and God sometimes gives a judgment 7 times as harsh as the sin.

Here is just one example from scripture where God passed a judgment upon Israel, for disobeying the laws of the Sabbath rest.

Leviticus 26:33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste. 34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths. 35 As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it. 36 And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth. 37 And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies.
38 And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. 39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them. 40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;"

And that was His own chosen people; just as America has been blessed more than any other nation because it founded upon Religious complexities, and laid claim to protection from the benevolent God of Israel, we prospered as a nation, more than any other, since Israel, and failed to read the signs as we failed to seek righteousness.

Wake up America; Mayhap we can still be heard in that we repent, and abhor those things which we know God hates in a nation.

One thing we all know, we cannot justify our silence any longer. We have been warned.

We will become like the ancient Israel, about whom it was said "Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes."[Deut 12:8]

"In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes."[Judges 17:6]

"In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes."[Judges 21:25]

"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise."[Prov 12:15]
Democrats blame Republicans; Republicans blame Dem... (show quote)


Finally being equal in society and not forced into a subservient role "began when the women had to go into the factories in World War II, to replace workers that were drafted into the army. They earned money for the first time, and became relevant in a way they did not previously know, and liked it. When the war ended, many of the women did not quit their wartime jobs, but remained in the work place, leaving their children in day care, and divorcing husbands they no longer felt a need for."

Are you freaking sane? Such thinking should be so far down the rabbit hole that all would either chuckle or blanch at such nonsense, but not Christians. Feminism is of the devil.

Right on! Brilliant! Being a total misogynist jerk is given righteousness and God's blessing. Very well done.

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Mar 28, 2016 23:15:03   #
12icer Loc: alatennamissippi
 
In all versions of the Biblical God, The way to the Tree of Life is by the "PATH" and by clinging to "THE IRON ROD" if you stray from the path, and release your grip on the iron rod you are lost. If you have the heart of JESUS, and HIS blood, you KNOW what God asks of you each day, And to follow the PATH, and the IRON ROD you must be a faithful servant. Man cannot be brought to the TREE of LIFE by his own Works, but by doing the works of GOD, and by the blood of the LAMB. I am not a good Christian, but even I know this. The death of the America we all know looms, and we murder the most innocent of GODS children for convenience and are afraid to stand for them, why should he forgive us, would you forgive it of someone murdering your children at the rate we do his? consider there were appx 6 million Jews murdered in "Holocaust" WWII genocide, and since 1973 there have been 9.5 times that many babies aborted in the USA in the R vs W genocide.

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Apr 2, 2016 21:52:15   #
Airdale Loc: Spartan Nation West Michigan
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
This is so stunningly clueless it is borders on bizarre. What if I'm a Christian law maker? Then I would be expected to make laws.

....so in the good book, it explicitly describes that the US shall destroyed....nope, look again. If you think making laws to adapt to societies whims is the way to protect the US from God's vengeance, I would like to understand that and would willing to listen if you could provide the scriptural analysis.


I respect your negative opinion of Christianity and Christians. You can be no other way because anyone without faith is as a blind man trying to see a beautiful sunset. Your closed mindedness to spiritual matters is to be expected until you actually take the step to believe and your eyes are opened.. Liberalism and Christianity seem like oil and water. I think most true believers accept and actually love the unbelievers because they understand why they think as they do, but the same tolerance and understanding is not usually reciprocated by most unbelievers. Secular humanist America as it turns away from its Judeo-Christian roots is becoming increasingly unfriendly to Christians and their Constitutional freedoms to believe as they wish. The Bible and history itself are filled with examples of nations being destroyed and put down after turning away from God. Hitler's Germany and the Axis nations during WWII are good examples.

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May 23, 2016 07:50:07   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
pacm wrote:
God is just and would not hold someone accountable for the sins of another before His throne. However, when a nation is under God's judgement all may suffer the consequences, yet individual believers in Christ would not ultimately be condemned to hell at the final judgement.


How convenient.
We are microbes on an elemental-sphere floating in infinite space. From a cosmic perspective, we are ants. Ironically, ants are better at working together for the greater-good than humans are.
That anyone is arrogant enough to believe their God is the "only true one" defies all logic. The world today is what humans have made of it, as the dominant species, and we'd be better off putting our egos aside if we expect to have a future. But no, the fatalists want everyone to be punished, and they don't care because they believe they personally will be just fine, so to hell with everyone else? How primitive is that?
I mean no offense, but just think that the fatalist-view of things is a man-made, self-fullfilling doom-prophecy that needs to be overcome.

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