Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Democrats blame Republicans; Republicans blame Democrats. Where is the truth in the issue? The truth is in society, not politics.

Back in the '60's, (remember the 60's?) when the Hippie movement rolled over into "Bippies" and kept on rollin' until no one knew who was happenin?" Remember when the favored phrase was "Oh, just do whatever you want to, you're only hurting yourself." Remember how wrong that was? They have "done everything that appealed to them," and are destroying a nation.

When Abortion became a lifestyle, for the purpose of birth control, we became a nation of murderers, and all for the wrong reasons. Just so loud-mouthed militant women could ease the burden of their Penis envy and pretend to be men, emulating what they thought was Man's freedom to "Sleep around" only without much "sleep" actually involved!

And then the judges, in the later decades of the 20th century, started reversing the Sodomy laws, and making Homosexuality more like "legal," and the nation just sat there and let it happen.

And no, I do not claim I did what was needed, because I remained part of the silent majority too. But "silent" I will remain no more, and hope and pray it is not too late to warn the people of what was God's greatest national blessing on this old Green Earth.

Look at what God said a long time ago, about how and why a nation falls, as He took Israel to task over their failure to speak out, and notice the similarities between Israel of yesteryear and America of today -

Ezekiel the sixteenth chapter -
"Thou art thy mother's daughter, that lotheth her husband and her children; and thou art the sister of thy sisters, which lothed their husbands and their children: your mother was an Hittite, and your father an Amorite.
46 And thine elder sister is Samaria, she and her daughters that dwell at thy left hand: and thy younger sister, that dwelleth at thy right hand, is Sodom and her daughters.
47 Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted more than they in all thy ways.
48 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.
49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
[Ezek 16:45-50]

It began when the women had to go into the factories in World War II, to replace workers that were drafted into the army. They earned money for the first time, and became relevant in a way they did not previously know, and liked it. When the war ended, many of the women did not quit their wartime jobs, but remained in the work place, leaving their children in day care, and divorcing husbands they no longer felt a need for.

Now look at what is said, as I compare Israel's behaviour with that of our own society-

verse 45 "lothed their husbands and their children:"

Sounds familiar.

verses 46 & 47 "thy younger sister, that dwelleth at thy right hand, is Sodom and her daughters.Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted ]more than they in all thy ways.

verse 48-49 "As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters. 49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom,

"pride" - Ever hear of "Gay Pride?" How about "I aborted and I'm not ashamed of it?" Too much pride in our sins.

"fulness of bread" - No more hunting and gathering, just run down to the local marketplace and purchase. Everything is just made too easy.

"abundance of idleness" equates to "Too much free time on our hands."

"neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." I think that one speaks for itself. Instead of trying to relieve the poor and the needy, we watch local commentators as they try to find somewhere to place blame upon those who need out help, instead of asking us to help their needs.

verse 50 "And they were haughty" WoW! Hit right on target with that one. Ever watch the politicians in Washington when they are asked about some scandal or other with which they are directly involved. They are almost arrogant in their haughty demeanor, even as they dare us to question their behavior.

"and committed abomination before me:" This is when a nation has exhausted the litany of sins without remorse, and God lets them fall into the lowest common denominator of sin categories, which is a natural outcome of unrepentant self-gratification; Homosexuality is the only thing remaining lower than they already practice; and so they begin to first, practice it, then justify it, and finally glamorize it ("Pride parades").

"therefore I took them away as I saw good."

He's working on that one even as we speak. Now, here's where we need to focus real good, because we would not want to think we were not warned, would we?

God sends several different types of "armies" to effect His judgment upon a nation; from Locusts, or pestilences that destroy a nations food supply, bringing starvation; enemy soldiers, to occupy and demean a nation, (usually for far less evil than we are talking about), weather, which destroys crops, and cities by flooding and winds; And disease which destroys life, killing off the population by the millions. That is the one I worry about. We have killed the babies yet unborn by the millions, and God sometimes gives a judgment 7 times as harsh as the sin.

Here is just one example from scripture where God passed a judgment upon Israel, for disobeying the laws of the Sabbath rest.

Leviticus 26:33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste. 34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths. 35 As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it. 36 And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth. 37 And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies.
38 And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. 39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them. 40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;"

And that was His own chosen people; just as America has been blessed more than any other nation because it founded upon Religious complexities, and laid claim to protection from the benevolent God of Israel, we prospered as a nation, more than any other, since Israel, and failed to read the signs as we failed to seek righteousness.

Wake up America; Mayhap we can still be heard in that we repent, and abhor those things which we know God hates in a nation.

One thing we all know, we cannot justify our silence any longer. We have been warned.

We will become like the ancient Israel, about whom it was said "Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes."[Deut 12:8]

"In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes."[Judges 17:6]

"In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes."[Judges 21:25]

"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise."[Prov 12:15]

Mary95

You got all of that exactly right, in my opinion. Two more years of breaking up our country's foundation... The 60's...the Satanic bible's main theme is, 'If it feels good, do it'. People were living the song of "love the one you're with". Up till now there have been 51 million 'small sacrifices', and the god of this world loves it. God always brought Israel to repentance through the Pagan nations, and It sure feels like that's about to happen to us. Terrorists walking right through our borders, joining with and taking over the cartels. Russia beginning to take back countries it once had, and proclaiming us to be an immoral, fallen nation. Can't say Putin's wrong either. China, the U.N.... In another year, provided we're still here, the allies we had 6 years ago will be our foes and the terrorists will be our allies. What you said was immensely important and it's the history that we were supposed to have learned by. Unless there is a great spiritual revival in America, and our nation acknowledges God, history will soon repeat itself, just as it did on many occasions in the Old Testament. Thanks for posting that. We need to pray for the safety of Netanyahu, as this administration enjoys punishing those who disagree with him so often. Obama already has his campaign manager over in Israel recruiting the people for Netanyahu's competition.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

You have no idea how blessed I feel just to see a woman agree with my post. I was afraid women would feel violated by my remarks, yet I know them to be true.

Bless you for your vindication, and the hope you give me that it may yet be not too late. I have long thought there are many silent suffering women in this country, waiting for a man to take a stand, with which they can agree. I do not believe the bad women could have functioned so evilly, without bad men's help; God help us all.

And my constant prayer is and will remain, for God to give us a special blessing of constraint, so that we do not put all blame upon the blatantly sinning population, while ignoring the silent sinning watchers who will not stand up for what is right. And it cannot become a contest of "whose sin is the worst, yours or mine." We all fall short, but we must not all simply point fingers and feel righteous. It is after all, a God fearing Nation we are trying to rouse from sleep, to an awareness of a giant in our midst; rampant Satanistic
"Freedom's" not promoted by our God given constitution.

Thanks again for your response. And God watch over you and keep you.

Char4Dew

I am sorry, but the mess did not start in the 1960's
It started with the FEDERAL RESERVE
or should I say the NONE “Federal” anything.
We have begun to voice it in the 1960's

Char4Dew

AMEN!
Prayrs for Israel.

jetson

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Great, I try to pray for our nation every night. It will take God Almighty to unravel the mess we are in.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Here is some wise counsel or a suggestion. We live not under the laws of Israel. Our country, it's laws, our way of life can be directly traced to the "Magna Carta". If you are a Christian, these threats of earthly damnation probably are important, but no where in the bible does it say that non-Christians must follow the rules. Even in Jesus' day, Jews were forced to follow Roman Law and before that Babylonian Law.

I'm not even sure how Israeli Civil and Criminal Law works, but it doesn't matter. Our laws were created and "evolve" under the Common Law system. We choose how we discipline our citizens.

If there is one thing one can say, today. We are burdened to point with laws. Have you ever heard of dead letter law? God understands that we live in a fallen world. Christians are only expected to take care of themselves, that's why it is a personal relationship with Christ, not a group effort.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Are you of limited sight? Blind? Can you not see that we are a nation of no law? Anarchy reigns supreme. Any time stupid thugs can meet in open defiance of law and scream for "Dead cops" "when do we want them?" "NOW!" you know law has fallen to a new low.

And all that is in the name of "Freedom of expression," previously known as "Free speech." There is no such law as "Freedom of Expression."



Much of what is written in the Hebrew old testament was not only for the Hebrew, much of it was about the Gentile nations, and some was addressed to Gentile Nations. And several things were made clear. And you are correct, the nations were never under Hebrew law. But they were held accountable for those things God called "Abomination" like homosexuality, which was just one of the charges against the seven nations God destroyed to make room for Israel in the new land they crossed a desert to inherit.

And it is in the old testament where God told Israel that He places over the Gentile nations, whom it pleases Him so to do. And it is in the old testament God said he gives nations the leaders they deserve. And from there it gets scary.



Not any more. It is now under the control of the undisciplined. They break laws until judges change them by fiat. Then they do their little "In your face" dances and run "pride parades."



Christians are not supposed to make laws for non-Christians, but they certainly must point out when society turns to murder as a means of birth control, and homosexual activity takes over the moral standard of the nation. God will not allow that nation to remain for long.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Dummy Boy wrote:
Here is some wise counsel or a suggestion. We live not under the laws of Israel.




Apparently, you haven't heard of the Battle of Athens, (TN). I'll let you look that up yourself.

Apparently, you don't understand the first amendment or due process. For your edification: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

If it was acceptable for the KKK to burn crosses in peoples lawns, then it is perfectly okay for someone to carry signs that threaten-please provide any evidence that any members of the KKK were arrested for doing such things...let alone lynching.



I'm not one for quoting scripture, but apparently, you are need of a lesson from the New Testament: Romans 13:1-7 states, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

I guess it is up to you, whether you want to spend the rest of your life in prison by ignoring laws (simple contempt of court will get you an over night stay), but I for one, am willing to believe that I should do everything in my power to not get myself locked up.



Even in Jesus' day, Jews were forced to follow Roman Law and before that Babylonian Law.

I'm not even sure how Israeli Civil and Criminal Law works, but it doesn't matter. Our laws were created and "evolve" under the Common Law system. We choose how we discipline our citizens.




Please see my reference to the first amendment. Attend a lot of gay parades, do you? That says a lot more about you than me.



This is so stunningly clueless it is borders on bizarre. What if I'm a Christian law maker? Then I would be expected to make laws.

....so in the good book, it explicitly describes that the US shall destroyed....nope, look again. If you think making laws to adapt to societies whims is the way to protect the US from God's vengeance, I would like to understand that and would willing to listen if you could provide the scriptural analysis.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

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I didn't say that!

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Well, what did you say...or mean to say?

pacm Loc: New York upstate north of Manhattan

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We are definitely under God's judgement. We've murdered innocents as a "women's right to choose", we are turning our backs on Israel ('I will bless those who bless Israel') and we totally perverted God's will that there be only the union of one man and one woman in order to multiply His human creations, whom He loves and wishes that none perish eternally! Hence, Jesus.

But when I say "we" of course I mean those who who support an agenda of murder, corruption and perversion, those who do not wish to acknowledge that indeed a Holy God does exist, and by whom they will be be called into account on Judgement Day.

Not believing in God will not make Him go away. Everything God set in order to be done will be done to the exact degree that He has proclaimed it will be; history has proven this to be true since ancient times.

We have almost no time left to change the course we are on. I pray it still may not be too late.

pacm Loc: New York upstate north of Manhattan

:thumbup:

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

...so when you have to answer for your transgressions before God. You're going to hell for what someone else did or didn't do?

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

The bible standard is not that much hidden. When people consider this life more important than a Godly standard, they will be held accountable.

This life is a training time, in which we are given opportunity to learn, practice, make mistakes, and correct them.

We have constant opportunity for attitude adjustment, as well as information growth, as we learn more each day, than we knew the day before.

We are not expected to grow at the same rate, because different backgrounds effect us, as well as different experiences, different traditions and different cultural and moral characteristics.

But we are expected to make the effort. And we must never think to value our life in the flesh over our life in the spirit.