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Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024
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Jan 15, 2024 11:09:24   #
1ProudAmerican
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Textbook Definition .
Even you could diagnose trump .
By applying a bit of linear thinking here , you could transpose a course that trump might be able to take without killing everything he touches !!!!!
I’m locked in at Leavenworth.


Actually, I think you're locked UP at Leavenworth...

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Jan 15, 2024 11:10:18   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
They have their own brand of mental illness.


Your opinion of their mental illness ?
Not fact based as from The Mayo Clinic?

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Jan 15, 2024 11:10:46   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
Actually, I think you're locked UP at Leavenworth...


Severe and Profound.

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Jan 15, 2024 11:11:57   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its amusing to see how you people suck up anything and everything because you hate trump. They keep trying to push different narratives as his popularity grows and some of you latch on to all of them

I don’t want him elected but wow are some of you easy marks for whatever comes up.


Nothing gets past you , does it , rose ?

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Jan 15, 2024 11:17:00   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
David L wrote:
Did Mayo diagnose trump? No. They described a problem and YOU and your deranged anti Trumpers did the diagnosis. Maybe you should be sued for practicing medicine without a license.


If you identified your neighbor as a textbook pedophile would you still let him watch your kids ??
Fearing a lawsuit for practicing without a license????

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Jan 15, 2024 11:17:10   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump lost more jobs in his term than any previous president .
Fact !

Is this called making America great again ?


AHAHAHAHAHA all because of the democrats lockdowns.



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Jan 15, 2024 11:20:50   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
XXX wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHA all because of the democrats lockdowns.


But , trump was in charge.
Consequently,
Trump lost more jobs than any other president.
The black mark stands.
Just like impeached twice.
The black mark stands.

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Jan 15, 2024 11:22:25   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
Milosia2 wrote:
But , trump was in charge.
Consequently,
Trump lost more jobs than any other president.
The black mark stands.
Just like impeached twice.
The black mark stands.


But it wasn't his fault that democrats told people to stay at home.

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Jan 15, 2024 11:25:05   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Most are not , and were not.
What are you suffering from ?
Racism ??????


Racism? Where the hell did you get that from? Race has nothing to do with anything. Stupidity does...

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Jan 15, 2024 11:25:07   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024
KLAUS MARRE 01/14/24
It is entirely fair that President Joe Biden’s age is a campaign issue. But we also need to talk about Donald Trump’s various mental disorders.

We periodically point out that Donald Trump is seriously mentally ill. From being a pathological liar to a textbook example of malignant narcissism, the former president displays a cluster of disorders that, in other circumstances, might not get him institutionalized, but would definitely justify some form of treatment.

So why aren’t we talking about that?

The GOP seems intent on making President Joe Biden’s age an issue in the upcoming election (although Trump is only four years younger), and that is perfectly appropriate in light of the fact that the incumbent would be 86 at the end of a second term.

It is important that experts — rather than Fox News pundits, who interpret every one of Biden’s verbal slips as a sign of advanced dementia — weigh in on this topic. After all, being president is a stressful and highly demanding job, so is it possible for an octogenarian to do it well? That is a valid question, and it seems as though voters deserve an answer.

But they should also know whether one of the candidates is very likely completely nuts.

Yet, while Biden’s age is fair game, not just in the right-wing mediaverse but also among mainstream news outlets, Trump’s mental health, or lack thereof, is largely a taboo topic, even though it is a much bigger problem.

Most reporters don’t have a problem with mentioning Biden’s age (and it bears repeating that it’s a perfectly legitimate concern as long as their conclusions are supported by facts). Yet the same journalists fail to spell it out for their audiences when Trump does or says something that is completely insane apart from labeling some of his most outrageous speeches “rants” or saying the former president is “unhinged.” But those are buzzwords and not a serious attempt to spell out that Trump is, to put it in layman’s terms, crazy.

A big part of the reason why the former president’s mental health is not more of a topic of conversation is the so-called Goldwater Rule of the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics. It states that “it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion [about someone’s mental health] unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

That might seem fair in most circumstances, but it is arguably even less ethical to allow a seriously mentally ill person to become president — in particular if that mental illness could negatively impact their performance, which it arguably did during Trump’s first term.

After all, there are exceptions to the attorney-client privilege; e.g., a lawyer is allowed to divulge relevant information if doing so prevents death or serious injury.

Another part of the problem is that, as a society, we do not talk much about mental health, and these disorders are not as easy to diagnose as physical ailments.

If an X-ray reveals a fracture, the bone is broken; a biopsy showing malignant cells is clear evidence of cancer. In these cases, no doctors are going to disagree with another doctor’s diagnosis.

It’s somewhat different with mental illness, especially in mild or mainly benign cases which might be open to some interpretation or differences of opinion.

For example, it takes a special kind of person — specifically, someone with a very high opinion of him or herself — to decide that he or she wants to be president of the United States. Therefore, every commander in chief probably has a narcissistic streak.

However, there is nothing mild or benign about Trump’s narcissism.

Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.

Keep in mind that displaying any number of these can make you a narcissist, but we challenge anybody to look at this list of 21 symptoms and find even a handful that don’t apply to Trump.

It’s an impossible task for any fair-minded person.

That’s precisely the reason why the former president’s mental health must be part of the national conversation. Voters need to know what someone suffering from this disorder (and others) is capable of in a position of power, just as they need to know whether an 82-year-old (or a 78-year-old, for that matter), can handle the rigors of the presidency for four years.

And it’s not just his malignant narcissism and compulsive lying. Look up the APA’s symptoms for “sociopathy,” and it is difficult not to think of Trump.

But who is actually looking up the definitions of “malignant narcissism” or “sociopathy?” Clearly not enough people.

And this is where it would help if mental health professionals spoke out. They could point out that Trump is a poster child for several serious disorders. And then, responsible journalists could cite these opinions when they write about the former president’s latest rant or spate of lies.

In fact, most stories about him should include that information, e.g.,

“Former President Donald Trump, who experts say is mentally ill,…”

‘“As per usual, Trump, a diagnosed compulsive liar, did not stick to the truth in his remarks…”

“As a result of his malignant narcissism and sociopathy, Trump did tremendous damage during his first term, and experts say he has only gotten worse since then.”

Granted, it would have been better to have had these conversations eight years ago. Take his narcissism, for example. People like Trump need adulation and attention like ordinary people need oxygen.

Now, you probably could not have headed off the adulation from his most fervent supporters, but you could have deprived the former president of much of the attention he craves so much.

Instead, media executives with an eye on the bottom line showered him with billions of dollars of free airtime, which constituted one of the worst cases of journalistic malpractice in history.

Now, we can’t do anything about what happened eight years ago, but it is high time for experts to weigh in on Trump’s mental state and how it would jeopardize the United States should he be elected again.

Mental Illness.
Needs your Vote !!!!!!!!
Trumpenstein has a plan for you .

** Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.*****

Factual documented information.
From the Mayo Clinic .
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Con... (show quote)


Is it ever ethical for doctors to diagnose patients they haven’t examined?
Psychiatrists should never provide professional opinions in the media about public figures they have not personally examined, the American Psychiatric Association reiterated in a statement.
Last October, when a group of 27 mental health professionals, including psychiatrists, published a book arguing that the current US president’s mental state was a danger to the nation, they said they were honoring another medical principle: the duty to warn.
The idea behind the “duty to warn” is that if you are in a position to know about a danger and have time to alert others, you should do so.
Psychiatrists, for instance, are allowed to break a doctor–patient confidentiality if they suspect a patient is about to harm a third party.

But part of that duty rests on having done a proper evaluation, according to Dr. David Goldbloom, a psychiatry professor and senior medical adviser for the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health.
“You are intervening to abrogate fundamental civil freedoms,” he said.
“You can’t do that from having read an article or watched television.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5809224/

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Jan 15, 2024 11:25:43   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
But , trump was in charge.
Consequently,
Trump lost more jobs than any other president.
The black mark stands.
Just like impeached twice.
The black mark stands.


"Black mark"? Are you racist?

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Jan 15, 2024 11:28:53   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
Milosia2 wrote:
But , trump was in charge.
Consequently,
Trump lost more jobs than any other president.
The black mark stands.
Just like impeached twice.
The black mark stands.



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Jan 15, 2024 11:59:17   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
This isn’t a different narrative.
The Mayo Clinic is a highly respected Medical Clinic.
It is available to you also .
If you should have an unexplained illness the Mayo Clinic , could help .
They are not a frivolous institution .
And neither do they just blurt out nonsense to hurt trump .
As explained , trump is a Textbook Case of
Malignant Narcissism and Sociopathy .
A textbook case .
Not because he is trump .
But because his case aligns perfectly with what is called
A-Text Book Case of Malignant Narcissism
And Sociopathy .
Try harder to understand that , rose.
This isn’t a different narrative. br The Mayo Clin... (show quote)


Keep trying. I’m sure there’s another gullible soul that buys into it.


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Jan 15, 2024 12:54:07   #
pescado rojo
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump lost more jobs in his term than any previous president .
Fact !

Is this called making America great again ?


Trump did not, and no previous president had Covid to deal with. More people died of Covid under Biden WITH the vaccines than under Trump without them until the end of his term.

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Jan 15, 2024 12:55:22   #
pescado rojo
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If you identified your neighbor as a textbook pedophile would you still let him watch your kids ??
Fearing a lawsuit for practicing without a license????


Fortunately you are not my neighbor.

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