Just a Little Reminder About the Real Reason for Amnesty (Page 2): What happened on election night? Didn't need the Mexicans to boot the libs out. And booted out they were. Obama had...

MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach

KHH1 wrote:

**Republicans stance on civil rights issues will keep them lilly white...with repeals on AA causing less blcak enrollments and inclusion in various professional sectors, blacks are not going to buy into that...we will not be used for doing your work against the Mexicans and not gain anything ourselves, politically speaking...trust me on that one**

What happened on election night? Didn't need the Mexicans to boot the libs out. And booted out they were. Obama had been great for waking up the sleeping giant that is the GOP. Thanks Mr. Zebra man.

MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach

KHH1 wrote:

**Republicans stance on civil rights issues will keep them lilly white...with repeals on AA causing less blcak enrollments and inclusion in various professional sectors, blacks are not going to buy into that...we will not be used for doing your work against the Mexicans and not gain anything ourselves, politically speaking...trust me on that one**

What happened on election night? Didn't need the Mexicans to boot the libs out. And booted out they were. Obama has been great for waking up the sleeping giant that is the GOP. Thanks Mr. Zebra man.

Loki Loc: Georgia

MajorAhrens wrote:

What happened on election night? Didn't need the Mexicans to boot the libs out. And booted out they were. Obama has been great for waking up the sleeping giant that is the GOP. Thanks Mr. Zebra man.

Zebra Man? He is a typical Liberal; A self-righteous, bigoted, arrogant, condescending, short-sighted fool. He denigrates men like Thomas Sowell, Allen West and Ben Carson because they command the respect he will never have, unless he obtains it from like-minded Liberal toadies and suckups.

KHH1

Trooper745 wrote:

Please enlighten me, .... exactly what "various professional sectors" would blacks be excluded from, if there were no AA?

*Do the research on historical discrimination and you will see many areas listed, from police/fire, health-related, education, construction, etc.....all areas of endeavor needed AA to stop historical discrimination and provide entry and some still dontoday...because blacks were always relegated to the lower paying jobs with no distinct career track, REGARDLESS OF QUALIFICATIONS*

ninetogo

Loki wrote:

Found a nice piece on the Obama amnesty, and the reasons why some Establishment Republicans seem to roll over for it.

http://unfilteredpatriot.com/follow-the-money-top-immigration-reform-donors/

When it comes to gun control, healthcare, welfare, and immigration policy, liberals have been masterful at painting their positions as the morally correct ones. They enjoy, of course, a heaping helping of support from both Hollywood and the mainstream news organizations, all of which are slanted with the same biases. And while I do believe that many Democratic voters college students among the most faithful truly believe in the causes, its time to pull back the curtain on the real power in Liberal Land: money.

On the subject of immigration, the New York Times did a nice piece this weekend pointing out the major donors on the side of increased amnesty. While groups like La Raza and Obama himself argue that amnesty-esque policies are rooted in a greater humanity, the money behind these efforts comes from a less altruistic place. According to the Times, money has been pumped into immigration reform from sources like the Ford Foundation, Atlantic Philanthropies, the Carnegie Corporation, and the George Soros-funded Open Society Foundations. Over the last ten years, these organizations have donated more than $300 million to immigrant-rights groups.

Naturally, to run such a story the Times had to spend much of the article making sure the reader knew that these organizations were coming from an apolitical stance. They were interested in philanthropy, and they are driven by a moral compass that stands apart from Washington politics. Its not until nearly the end of the story that we get to hear the other side of that claim. Dan Stein of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which stands against amnesty, said, The whole apparatus has become the handmaiden of the Democratic Party. These foundations fund activist organizations designed to create ethnic identity enclaves and politically control them for partisan purposes.

Ex-actly.

And what is their reason for wanting amnesty? Cheap labor and lots of it. This is also why establishment Republicans fully in bed with corporate interests themselves have done little to stand up to Obamas planned executive action. Instead of insisting that they will use the power of the purse to shut down Obamas schemes, theyve begun talking about lawsuits that will likely never see fruition. Only hardline conservatives like Ted Cruz and Jeff Sessions are willing to put their political careers on the line for the sake of preventing disaster.

Of course, Democrats want amnesty for an entirely different set of reasons. More legal Hispanic voters particularly those who rely on the federal government for monetary support will translate into more Democratic victories. And the increased burden on the welfare state plays into their aims as well, allowing them an unprecedented level of control over the nations citizenry. After all, when you depend on the government to keep you afloat, you arent going to be especially receptive to the conservative message of independence and self-reliance.

I do believe were at a major turning point in American history, and it goes well beyond Obamas specific plans. Will the fight for United States sovereignty and culture win out, or will we concede to being a multicultural, segmented nation driven to the bottom by bleeding hearts and opportunists?
- See more at: http://unfilteredpatriot.com/follow-the-money-top-immigration-reform-donors/#sthash.3aOB5nyN.dpuf

Found a nice piece on the Obama amnesty, and the r... (show quote)

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Loki:
I agree with your conclusion; well stated. If we travel back in time to the LBJ Administration, the Voting Rights Act of 1964 was not passed for the benefit of Social Justice. It was passed to make the black community a permanent voting block for the Democrat Party. LBJ was quoted as saying this piece of legislation would have blacks voting for Democrats for the next 50 years. LBJ was prophetic in his statement.

The immigration reform movement is the new Voting Rights Act of 2014, with the main objective to build enclaves of new Democrat voting minorities. What the black community needs to understand is they will now have competition for set asides, quotas, jobs, and other perks that previously directed to their community. Good luck!

KHH1

ninetogo wrote:

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**LBJ also stated that the Dems would lose the bigoted south for 40 years-accurate indeed*

Loki Loc: Georgia

KHH1 wrote:

*Do the research on historical discrimination and you will see many areas listed, from police/fire, health-related, education, construction, etc.....all areas of endeavor needed AA to stop historical discrimination and provide entry and some still dontoday...because blacks were always relegated to the lower paying jobs with no distinct career track, REGARDLESS OF QUALIFICATIONS*

"Qualified" like the black firefighters in Connecticut who complained about a "racist" test for promotion that none of them could pass, even though Whites, Hispanics and Asians managed to do so?
I hired a more qualified white at the restaurant I managed and was informed I was a "racist cracker motherf*cker. I suppose I got over it, because when I hired a more qualified black applicant for another position, I became a f*cking nigger lover. Fortunately, I don't really give a shit about either of their opinions. My point being that neither of these idiots even considered for a second that I was hiring on quals, rather than race. You remind me of those two cretins.

Loki Loc: Georgia

KHH1 wrote:

**LBJ also stated that the Dems would lose the bigoted south for 40 years-accurate indeed*

What LBJ actually said was "We'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years." Real enlightened guy.

MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach

Loki wrote:

Zebra Man? He is a typical Liberal; A self-righteous, bigoted, arrogant, condescending, short-sighted fool. He denigrates men like Thomas Sowell, Allen West and Ben Carson because they command the respect he will never have, unless he obtains it from like-minded Liberal toadies and suckups.

Loki, my thoughts exactly. Obama,aka zebraman is a buffoon. COL. West forgot more about honor than a shallow, angry little zebraman will ever know. If the GOP rolls over on us about these illegal roaches then in two years they can feel the toe of our boot in their azz cheeks. Zebraman has to be stopped, NOW. Keep em straight Loki.

KHH1

Loki wrote:

What LBJ actually said was "We'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years." Real enlightened guy.

**That was common language of the day, so you will not procure any negative emotions from me**

I'm sure you'll be completely unsurprised to hear that in Broke, Glenn Beck describes President Lyndon Johnson as a "true progressive at heart," and goes on to castigate virtually every aspect of his presidency. But Beck has a problem in attacking Johnson -- while his economic policies have been slammed by the right and his decision to escalate the Vietnam War has been savaged by the left, it's almost impossible to find someone who doesn't champion the Voting Rights Act of 1965 or the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Beck's Fox colleague John Stossel excluded, of course).

So what does Beck do? He smears Johnson's passage of landmark civil rights legislation as entirely motivated by political expediency. Beck writes:

The truth was Johnson couldn't have cared less about the plight of blacks. What he did care about was his image, and he knew that being perceived as a civil rights crusader would help strengthen it. [pages 77-78]

After several pages of attacks on LBJ's Great Society, including a reference to the work of white supremacist favorite Charles Murray, Beck returns to the point:

All along, Johnson's voting record proved that he had little interest in racial "equality." Instead, he knew that shifting black voters into the Democrat column would be a key component for Democratic victories moving forward. The sad truth is that his strategy actually worked.

***In 1964, LBJ got 94 percent of the black vote, a record for presidential elections that stood until 2008, when Obama got 96 percent.***

In 1965, LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act, and since then no Republican presidential candidate has ever gotten more than 15 percent of the black popular vote. [page 85]

Ok, a few points here. First, did you notice how Beck glosses over what happened prior to the 1964 election that might have led to record black support for Johnson? Johnson, who Beck despises, pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1964; his opponent in that year's election, Sen. Barry Goldwater, the sort of libertarian Beck loves, opposed the bill. So yeah, Johnson's support for civil rights and his opponent's opposition to it probably did shift African Americans into the Democratic column.

But was that really why Johnson supported the bills? Let's put it this way: There's no story about the president signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, turning to Bill Moyers, and saying, "We have won the black vote for a generation." But there is one about Johnson telling Moyers, "We have lost the South for a generation." You may recognize the quote; it's probably the most famous thing Johnson is ever reported to have said, though Beck completely ignores it because it doesn't fit his narrative. Johnson knowingly sacrificed a large chunk of the Democratic coalition to pass civil rights legislation.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

ninetogo wrote:

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His actual quote was: "We will have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years".

MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach

KHH1 wrote:

**LBJ also stated that the Dems would lose the bigoted south for 40 years-accurate indeed*

Just where in the south is bigoted? I've faced more bigots up north than anytime in the south. The majority of the major cities in the south, Atlanta, Birmingham, Houston etc are black or Hispanic. So your saying what liberals really believe. That it's not the whites who are bigots but the minorities.

ninetogo

[quote=KHH1]**LBJ also stated that the Dems would lose the bigoted south for 40 years-accurate indeed*[/quote
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KHH1: I guess that was the trade-off. The Democrats have had 50 years of absolute loyalty from the black community and have lost 40 years of total sway in the South. The one exception that I take to your quote is that LBJ did not include the word "bigoted" in his statement. That was courtesy of KHH1. Thank you, sir......I'll have another!

I predict that the black community will eventually discover that the Republican Party, and specifically the Republican Party in the South is not their enemy.

She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia

Loki,
I could not agree more. Great post.

dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

MajorAhrens wrote:

Just where in the south is bigoted? I've faced more bigots up north than anytime in the south. The majority of the major cities in the south, Atlanta, Birmingham, Houston etc are black or Hispanic. So your saying what liberals really believe. That it's not the whites who are bigots but the minorities.

It was a long time ago but a bunch of us from Portsmouth Navy Yard in Kittery ME were loaned to the shipyard in Charleston S.C. White CSY folks would come up to us and start a conversation with, "I'm a good Christian, but ..." and everything that followed "but" was something derogatory about African Americans. This was probably late 60's time and things must certainly have changed by now.