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Jul 4, 2022 14:45:03   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
What the hell is going on here, some of us half listen to the hearings of Congress and see a lot of obscure conjecture but nothing substantial.

Some of us have to work for a living so we are not concerned about this pony show. But now that the committee hearings are stoking division amongst all of us. I have a few simple questions.

Now I know if a person wanted to get a weapon into a secure area bad enough to do a malicious deed they will do it. I get that but.....

The committee wants me to believe that a group of people, brought weapons to the capital to do a malicious act-they called it sedition.

Okay, there's a charge, I get it, now prove it. Show me the list of weapons that were used. Show this evidence? Where is it? The protesters were arrested right? Then it stands to reason that they were disarmed right? So where's the property? Hell we even have possession of Lee Harvey Oswald's weapon that killed Kennedy? But no weapon on Jan 6th?

And that's just for starters..... I heard a witness speak about Trump's emotional state. Throwing ketchup really? We are going to charge Trump with a crime based on what he thought at the time? Really? Trump fights with words, words is his weapon. But he has free speech. He disagreed with the results.....many with him question those results but that is criminal? No way! They really are questioning trump of how he felt on Jan 6th, that is no evidence at all.

Reminds me of the rebuttal of Tom Cruise in a few good men, "You honestly want my clients to testify how they felt?" Really.

So we have emotion, yet no list of weapons in the most weapon restricted place on the planet, and you call it a insurrection, let alone a riot? Where's the weapons?

Jan 6th was a certification of a contentious election where emotions on both sides were running very high. A group supporting one side of the argument, was let into the capital, while thier allies were contesting the election.

Then all of a sudden there was a change. Capital police locked down the representatives and ushered them to a safe area. Then cleared the building. But these same capital police let the protesters inside. We saw that on TV in real time.

Then when order was secured, they rushed the vote with little or no contesting of the votes. Does anyone else see a problem with this?

These and many more questions are being left unanswered so the committee hearing is a dog and pony show.

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Jul 4, 2022 15:09:08   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
What the hell is going on here, some of us half listen to the hearings of Congress and see a lot of obscure conjecture but nothing substantial.

Some of us have to work for a living so we are not concerned about this pony show. But now that the committee hearings are stoking division amongst all of us. I have a few simple questions.

Now I know if a person wanted to get a weapon into a secure area bad enough to do a malicious deed they will do it. I get that but.....

The committee wants me to believe that a group of people, brought weapons to the capital to do a malicious act-they called it sedition.

Okay, there's a charge, I get it, now prove it. Show me the list of weapons that were used. Show this evidence? Where is it? The protesters were arrested right? Then it stands to reason that they were disarmed right? So where's the property? Hell we even have possession of Lee Harvey Oswald's weapon that killed Kennedy? But no weapon on Jan 6th?

And that's just for starters..... I heard a witness speak about Trump's emotional state. Throwing ketchup really? We are going to charge Trump with a crime based on what he thought at the time? Really? Trump fights with words, words is his weapon. But he has free speech. He disagreed with the results.....many with him question those results but that is criminal? No way! They really are questioning trump of how he felt on Jan 6th, that is no evidence at all.

Reminds me of the rebuttal of Tom Cruise in a few good men, "You honestly want my clients to testify how they felt?" Really.

So we have emotion, yet no list of weapons in the most weapon restricted place on the planet, and you call it a insurrection, let alone a riot? Where's the weapons?

Jan 6th was a certification of a contentious election where emotions on both sides were running very high. A group supporting one side of the argument, was let into the capital, while thier allies were contesting the election.

Then all of a sudden there was a change. Capital police locked down the representatives and ushered them to a safe area. Then cleared the building. But these same capital police let the protesters inside. We saw that on TV in real time.

Then when order was secured, they rushed the vote with little or no contesting of the votes. Does anyone else see a problem with this?

These and many more questions are being left unanswered so the committee hearing is a dog and pony show.
What the hell is going on here, some of us half li... (show quote)


How did you miss the hearing pics of the snipers in the trees ? The film crew went around and pointed out the people with obvious weapons on their person.
The empty ellipse pics with 4 metal detectors. Trump got rid of the
metal detectors and the ellipse filled with people,
What would you deduce from that ?
Please tell us, Sherlock , why the metal detectors made such a big
Difference.

*** Jan 6th was a certification of a contentious election where emotions on both sides were running very high. A group supporting one side of the argument, was let into the capital, while thier allies were contesting the election. ***

wtf are you even talking about here ?

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Jul 4, 2022 15:11:20   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
What the hell is going on here, some of us half listen to the hearings of Congress and see a lot of obscure conjecture but nothing substantial.

Some of us have to work for a living so we are not concerned about this pony show. But now that the committee hearings are stoking division amongst all of us. I have a few simple questions.

Now I know if a person wanted to get a weapon into a secure area bad enough to do a malicious deed they will do it. I get that but.....

The committee wants me to believe that a group of people, brought weapons to the capital to do a malicious act-they called it sedition.

Okay, there's a charge, I get it, now prove it. Show me the list of weapons that were used. Show this evidence? Where is it? The protesters were arrested right? Then it stands to reason that they were disarmed right? So where's the property? Hell we even have possession of Lee Harvey Oswald's weapon that killed Kennedy? But no weapon on Jan 6th?

And that's just for starters..... I heard a witness speak about Trump's emotional state. Throwing ketchup really? We are going to charge Trump with a crime based on what he thought at the time? Really? Trump fights with words, words is his weapon. But he has free speech. He disagreed with the results.....many with him question those results but that is criminal? No way! They really are questioning trump of how he felt on Jan 6th, that is no evidence at all.

Reminds me of the rebuttal of Tom Cruise in a few good men, "You honestly want my clients to testify how they felt?" Really.

So we have emotion, yet no list of weapons in the most weapon restricted place on the planet, and you call it a insurrection, let alone a riot? Where's the weapons?

Jan 6th was a certification of a contentious election where emotions on both sides were running very high. A group supporting one side of the argument, was let into the capital, while thier allies were contesting the election.

Then all of a sudden there was a change. Capital police locked down the representatives and ushered them to a safe area. Then cleared the building. But these same capital police let the protesters inside. We saw that on TV in real time.

Then when order was secured, they rushed the vote with little or no contesting of the votes. Does anyone else see a problem with this?

These and many more questions are being left unanswered so the committee hearing is a dog and pony show.
What the hell is going on here, some of us half li... (show quote)


And all of the perpetrators are being held , or have been sentenced to dog and pony prisons.
And then of course, they are all republicans testifying against other republicans.
And now the floodgates have opened for new testimony's and evidence against trump. The fearful bunch of cowards and pussies have suddenly grown a pair and are now un-afraid to testify against trump.

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Jul 4, 2022 15:16:51   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Milosia2 wrote:


*** Jan 6th was a certification of a contentious election where emotions on both sides were running very high. A group supporting one side of the argument, was let into the capital, while thier allies were contesting the election. ***

wtf are you even talking about here ?


You forget the events of Jan 6th was broadcast in real time. And at least in my circles we watched the events.

The electorial votes were being contested and they were beginning with Arizona and the argument was beginning on the floor of both the Senate and the house when the protesters were let in.

Then after order was restored the certification was rushed....a very unwise act but nonetheless done.

Making this observation relevant. But uncontested except by Trump and his allies.

Again I ask the question: what weapons were used, and the list of weapons used on Jan 6th?

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Jul 4, 2022 15:22:21   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
ple with obvious weapons on their person.
The empty ellipse pics with 4 metal detectors. Trump got rid of the
metal detectors and the ellipse filled with people,
What would you deduce from that ?
Please tell us, Sherlock , why the metal detectors made such a big
Difference.

*** Jan 6th was a certification of a contentious election where emotions on both sides were running very high. A group supporting one side of the argument, was let into the capital, while thier allies were contesting the election. ***

wtf are you even talking about here ?[/quote]

So where are the weapons today? Again I ask for the list of weapons used in Jan 6 marked as an exhibit of evidence? A camera shit can be misrepresented. The actual weapon in hand cannot. Where is the list of weapons used Jan 6th?

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Jul 4, 2022 15:23:36   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
You forget the events of Jan 6th was broadcast in real time. And at least in my circles we watched the events.

The electorial votes were being contested and they were beginning with Arizona and the argument was beginning on the floor of both the Senate and the house when the protesters were let in.

Then after order was restored the certification was rushed....a very unwise act but nonetheless done.

Making this observation relevant. But uncontested except by Trump and his allies.

Again I ask the question: what weapons were used, and the list of weapons used on Jan 6th?
You forget the events of Jan 6th was broadcast in ... (show quote)


They were armed with cardboard signs. Haven't you ever gotten a nasty paper cut? Cardboard is very dangerous and should be banned during public protests.

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Jul 4, 2022 15:27:13   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Strycker wrote:
They were armed with cardboard signs. Haven't you ever gotten a nasty paper cut? Cardboard is very dangerous and should be banned during public protests.


Lol....so exhibit A is a cardboard sign? LMFAO

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Jul 4, 2022 15:35:34   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Lol....so exhibit A is a cardboard sign? LMFAO


No weapons no case.

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Jul 4, 2022 16:57:47   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
You forget the events of Jan 6th was broadcast in real time. And at least in my circles we watched the events.

The electorial votes were being contested and they were beginning with Arizona and the argument was beginning on the floor of both the Senate and the house when the protesters were let in.

Then after order was restored the certification was rushed....a very unwise act but nonetheless done.

Making this observation relevant. But uncontested except by Trump and his allies.

Again I ask the question: what weapons were used, and the list of weapons used on Jan 6th?
You forget the events of Jan 6th was broadcast in ... (show quote)


Contested, by what, one or two congressmen? The election was over the states decided.

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Jul 4, 2022 17:09:05   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Contested, by what, one or two congressmen? The election was over the states decided.


If you remember properly, when Arizona was up for certification, Ted Cruz contested the electors in the Senate and I believe it was Andy Biggs contested it in the house.

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Jul 4, 2022 17:10:34   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
If you remember properly, when Arizona was up for certification, Ted Cruz contested the electors in the Senate and I believe it was Andy Biggs contested it in the house.


Then the protesters were let in.

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Jul 4, 2022 17:16:55   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Contested, by what, one or two congressmen? The election was over the states decided.


Tell that to Stacy, Hillary, Al and all the Democrats who have been bitching about every Republican win since 2000.

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Jul 4, 2022 17:24:32   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
How did you miss the hearing pics of the snipers in the trees ? The film crew went around and pointed out the people with obvious weapons on their person.
The empty ellipse pics with 4 metal detectors. Trump got rid of the
metal detectors and the ellipse filled with people,
What would you deduce from that ?
Please tell us, Sherlock , why the metal detectors made such a big
Difference.

*** Jan 6th was a certification of a contentious election where emotions on both sides were running very high. A group supporting one side of the argument, was let into the capital, while thier allies were contesting the election. ***

wtf are you even talking about here ?
How did you miss the hearing pics of the snipers i... (show quote)


***wtf are you even talking about here ?
>>>Ranger is obviously talking above your comprehension level.

***How did you miss the hearing pics of the snipers in the trees ?
>>>That is utter birdshit. Who were the snipers looking for? There weren't any. I just spent the day with a real sniper. They don't sit in trees. That is about the dumbest statement ever from ewe

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Jul 4, 2022 17:27:53   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
ple with obvious weapons on their person.
The empty ellipse pics with 4 metal detectors. Trump got rid of the
metal detectors and the ellipse filled with people,
What would you deduce from that ?
Please tell us, Sherlock , why the metal detectors made such a big
Difference.

*** Jan 6th was a certification of a contentious election where emotions on both sides were running very high. A group supporting one side of the argument, was let into the capital, while thier allies were contesting the election. ***

wtf are you even talking about here ?
ple with obvious weapons on their person. br The e... (show quote)


So where are the weapons today? Again I ask for the list of weapons used in Jan 6 marked as an exhibit of evidence? A camera shit can be misrepresented. The actual weapon in hand cannot. Where is the list of weapons used Jan 6th?[/quote]

Where are the weapons ? Nobody cares.
Trump knew they were there because he acknowledged that.
One man was sentenced to prison that I know of for weapons charges.
Your childish distractions aren’t going to work anymore. It worked well when you were 4 , but we all outgrew that behavior.
To become responsible Citizens. Who are appalled at the thought of some clown trying to turn a legal, valid no fraud found
Election over to the Losing Party .
Won’t stand.

It still doesn’t excuse the crime.
The electoral votes were cast .
They were at the Capital for a formality of of being certified by the Vice President as outlined in the Constitution.
A mere formality .
Nothing was under contestment.
Certification and that is all .
Trumpy wanted this all disrupted with hopes of remaining an illegal dictator / president by having a CoupD’etat against his own government.
Today as a member of a failed. coupd’etat
He is now not only an Insurrectionist and a seditionist but a traitor to the highest degree.
He will not be running for any government offices any time soon. To say he is , knowing he never will . Is again FRAUD .
His number is up .
And Donald has now caught up with Donald.
And it doesn’t look good.
I think by now he has pissed off a sufficient amount of the right people .
He will be cut loose into a free fall.
Landing somewhere in Slovenia .

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Jul 4, 2022 17:28:57   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
And all of the perpetrators are being held , or have been sentenced to dog and pony prisons.
And then of course, they are all republicans testifying against other republicans.
And now the floodgates have opened for new testimony's and evidence against trump. The fearful bunch of cowards and pussies have suddenly grown a pair and are now un-afraid to testify against trump.


The perpetrators are wrongfully being held without reasonable bail while the government tries to figure out what they did. Many have been sentenced for being tourists. This is all one hundred percent bull shit coming out of this bull shit committee. And only the dumbest of the dumb can believe their bull shit.

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