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Apr 21, 2022 03:43:17   #
woodguru
 
Heck, can you even respect him or people's right to believe in another god?

Now that you have pictured that, that is how people that don't believe in god feel about religious beliefs.

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Apr 21, 2022 05:10:02   #
debeda
 
woodguru wrote:
Heck, can you even respect him or people's right to believe in another god?

Now that you have pictured that, that is how people that don't believe in god feel about religious beliefs.


I don't think its "another God". Just another name.

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Apr 21, 2022 06:23:32   #
Big dog
 
debeda wrote:
I don't think its "another God". Just another name.


👍👍👍👍

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Apr 21, 2022 07:35:52   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
woodguru wrote:
Heck, can you even respect him or people's right to believe in another god?

Now that you have pictured that, that is how people that don't believe in god feel about religious beliefs.

People can believe in whatever they want. It's called free will. However, I believe that Jesus commissioned me and other Christians to to tell them the truth...

[Jesus said:] “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. Mark 16:15-16

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Apr 21, 2022 07:53:42   #
Big dog
 
Parky60 wrote:
People can believe in whatever they want. It's called free will. However, I believe that Jesus commissioned me and other Christians to to tell them the truth...

[Jesus said:] “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. Mark 16:15-16


Amen !
Spread the word !🙏

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Apr 21, 2022 09:25:16   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
debeda wrote:
I don't think its "another God". Just another name.


This is an excellent explanation of the difference…….IMHO! 🙏🏻


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A vital difference between the Islamic and Christian views of God is the biblical concept of the Trinity. In the Bible, God has revealed Himself as one God in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. While each Person of the Trinity is fully God, God is not three gods but three in one.

God’s Son came in the form of man, a truth called the incarnation (Luke 1:30-35; John 1:14; Colossians 2:9; 1 John 4:1-3). The Lord Jesus Christ conquered the penalty and power of sin by dying on the cross (Romans 6:23). After rising from the dead, Jesus went back to heaven to be with His Father and sent the Holy Spirit to believers (Acts 1:8-11). One day, Christ will return to judge and rule (Acts 10:42, 43). Those who have trusted in the Lord Jesus will live with Him, but those who refuse to follow Him must be separated in hell from the holy God.

“The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him” (John 3:35-36). Either Jesus bears the wrath of God for your sin on the cross or you bear the wrath of God for your sin in hell (1 Peter 2:24).

The Trinity is essential to the Christian faith. Without the Trinity, there would be no incarnation of God’s Son in the Person of Jesus Christ. Without Jesus Christ, there would be no salvation from sin. Without salvation, sin would condemn all to an eternal hell.

So, do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? A better question is, “Do Christians and Muslims both have a correct understanding of who God is?” To this question, the answer is definitely no. Because of crucial differences between the Christian and Muslim concepts of God, the two faiths cannot both be true. The biblical God alone addresses and solves the problem of sin by giving His Son.

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” (John 3:16-18).

https://www.gotquestions.org/same-God.html

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Apr 21, 2022 11:57:15   #
woodguru
 
debeda wrote:
I don't think its "another God". Just another name.


That's sort of what I think, there is a lot of common core things between religions and their rules...it's taken too far when they demand others bow to their god as the only one, and every religion seems to have it's zealots that take it too far

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Apr 21, 2022 12:01:16   #
woodguru
 
Parky60 wrote:
People can believe in whatever they want. It's called free will. However, I believe that Jesus commissioned me and other Christians to to tell them the truth...

I agree with the first, in terms of telling others you can take that too far when people do not want to hear it, and double that for expecting other people to live by your beliefs.

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Apr 21, 2022 12:14:06   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
woodguru wrote:
I agree with the first, in terms of telling others you can take that too far when people do not want to hear it, and double that for expecting other people to live by your beliefs.

I never said that I expect someone to live by my beliefs. Didn't I say that you have free will. So, if you don't want to read what I have to say, use your free will and ignore it. But you can't because you're being convicted by the Holy Spirit.

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Apr 21, 2022 17:24:57   #
debeda
 
Big dog wrote:
👍👍👍👍


🌞🌞🌞

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Apr 21, 2022 17:25:47   #
debeda
 
TexaCan wrote:
This is an excellent explanation of the difference…….IMHO! 🙏🏻


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A vital difference between the Islamic and Christian views of God is the biblical concept of the Trinity. In the Bible, God has revealed Himself as one God in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. While each Person of the Trinity is fully God, God is not three gods but three in one.

God’s Son came in the form of man, a truth called the incarnation (Luke 1:30-35; John 1:14; Colossians 2:9; 1 John 4:1-3). The Lord Jesus Christ conquered the penalty and power of sin by dying on the cross (Romans 6:23). After rising from the dead, Jesus went back to heaven to be with His Father and sent the Holy Spirit to believers (Acts 1:8-11). One day, Christ will return to judge and rule (Acts 10:42, 43). Those who have trusted in the Lord Jesus will live with Him, but those who refuse to follow Him must be separated in hell from the holy God.

“The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him” (John 3:35-36). Either Jesus bears the wrath of God for your sin on the cross or you bear the wrath of God for your sin in hell (1 Peter 2:24).

The Trinity is essential to the Christian faith. Without the Trinity, there would be no incarnation of God’s Son in the Person of Jesus Christ. Without Jesus Christ, there would be no salvation from sin. Without salvation, sin would condemn all to an eternal hell.

So, do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? A better question is, “Do Christians and Muslims both have a correct understanding of who God is?” To this question, the answer is definitely no. Because of crucial differences between the Christian and Muslim concepts of God, the two faiths cannot both be true. The biblical God alone addresses and solves the problem of sin by giving His Son.

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” (John 3:16-18).

https://www.gotquestions.org/same-God.html
This is an excellent explanation of the difference... (show quote)


Well said👏👏👏👏👏

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Apr 21, 2022 17:27:52   #
debeda
 
woodguru wrote:
That's sort of what I think, there is a lot of common core things between religions and their rules...it's taken too far when they demand others bow to their god as the only one, and every religion seems to have it's zealots that take it too far


When I took comparative religion it struck me as there are some core beliefs that are universal. I called those "God's laws" to myself. The various rules and mores not universal I called "man's laws" to myself.

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Apr 21, 2022 17:30:16   #
debeda
 
woodguru wrote:
I agree with the first, in terms of telling others you can take that too far when people do not want to hear it, and double that for expecting other people to live by your beliefs.


Expecting others to live by their beliefs is the biggest problem Western countries have with influxes of Myslims. Because muslims expect others to live by THEIR beliefs. Anything else "offends" them. And they see us all as "infidels".

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Apr 21, 2022 19:27:43   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
debeda wrote:
Expecting others to live by their beliefs is the biggest problem Western countries have with influxes of Myslims. Because muslims expect others to live by THEIR beliefs. Anything else "offends" them. And they see us all as "infidels".


We're not infidels... That only refers to people who don't worship God.. Jews and Christians are Kitab (sorry if I spelled it wrong)... We're also worshippers of God...

Fundamentalists tend towards extreme expectations...

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Apr 21, 2022 19:30:58   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We're not infidels... That only refers to people who don't worship God.. Jews and Christians are Kitab (sorry if I spelled it wrong)... We're also worshippers of God...

Fundamentalists tend towards extreme expectations...

That only refers to people who don't worship God Allah.

Allah is not the God of the Bible.

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