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Sep 19, 2014 21:40:16   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Workinman wrote:
Thanks for showing your ignorance again and again! :thumbup: :thumbup:


Your more than welcome. I'm delighted I can give you some happiness :XD:

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Sep 19, 2014 21:41:34   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Workinman wrote:
Lying piece of crap if King O knew wtf he was doing or even if he don't you surround yourself with those that do know and freakin listen...but not this guy...why...just ask yourself why!


WHY? WHY?

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Sep 19, 2014 21:48:15   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
Btfkr wrote:
WHY? WHY?


Cute....you might enjoy lying to yourself but why are you playing AuntE..have you told her yet that you deny being a Christian.

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Sep 19, 2014 21:53:01   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
robert66 wrote:
We have definitely seen the pubs hold up plenty. Is there a problem with the bills the house wants to pass? If there is are they willing to adjust them? We all heard about the ridiculous amount of times they wanted to pass bills to dismantle the ACA. The no compromise on Obama's part was that he and the senate would stop anything that tried to wreck the law. In the end they did give in to the mandate delay. I know , you're going to say some crap about doing it for mid term elections but nonetheless they got the delay and then brought a lawsuit because of it. Is this cooperating ? The supposed jobs bill the pubs wanted was pretty much just some more tax breaks for corporations and wealthy people. They knew it wouldn't make it. I know there has been obstruction on the other side as well. The country in reality is not going down the tubes, the president is not going to resign and nothing is going to come from all the bullish*t scandals, IRS , Benghazi etc. These attempts to smear the president surely are costing millions of dollars and taking away from getting productive accomplishments. None of this stuff is okay or warranted. Why do you say the president ignores the military advisors? From the article posted on here yesterday? Read a little more carefully and you will see the article is no more than speculation with no current military advisors making statements. These stories are intended to mislead as are others from progressive posters . The reason I resist conservative viewpoints is because they are all negative and seek to tear down the government , not strengthen it.
We have definitely seen the pubs hold up plenty. I... (show quote)



robert66-the republicans were not allowed to participate in the
ACA debacle. No Amendments-nothing. Take it as is or lump it. So the republicans chose to let the democrats pass it on their own which they did without a single person ever reading the act. Now we find that it is not working except for those who are subsidized and those on medicaid. The premium payers are standing on the sidelines because they cannot afford both the high premium and the deductibles. The employer mandate kicks- in in 2015 and that should be interesting. The country, under Obama, has become the laughing stock of the world. We are no longer respected as we once were. Worst than that, we are not trusted by our allies and that is why we are experiencing difficulty in forming a coalition to fight ISIS. Obama rejected the advice of senior military commanders and did not leave a residual force in Iraq which was stable at the time and we lost all the gains we paid a heavy price for. Now, he is once again rejecting their advice and has us on a path which will end up in us spending trillions without a chance of defeating ISIS. For your information, at least four generals and former secretary Gates have spoken out. As a rule, senior military commanders are pretty much in agreement but many fear speaking out because they fear losing their jobs. The current Obama plan is designed to see him through his last two years and the next president will have to send troops in if we expect to win. Put this on your calendar. The president will pull troops out of Afghanistan on his time-table which the enemy is already aware of. Unless we leave a substantial residual force behind, that country will end up like Iraq. Obama/Biden have an uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. By the way, what you perceive as negativism on the part of conservatives is merely a group of people trying to prevent an out of control president from destroying a great country. We are weaker militarily than we have been since WWII. China is catching up to us both economically and militarily and unless we wake up they will end up being the BMOC. All they need to do subsequently is to ally with Russia and we will be at their beck and call. Status of our country right now: 92 million out of the work force, 47 million on food stamps, hundreds of thousands of illegals pouring through our southern border (including terrorists ) , potential amnesty for millions of illegals which will not help the job situation, cities and counties struggling to feed, house, medicate and educate illegal children invited here by Obama=and the list goes on. Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 19, 2014 22:09:26   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Workinman wrote:
Cute....you might enjoy lying to yourself but why are you playing AuntE..have you told her yet that you deny being a Christian.


She knows I am spiritual. Not playing with my friend, not that is any of your business.

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Sep 19, 2014 22:25:22   #
robert66
 
Ricko wrote:
robert66-the republicans were not allowed to participate in the
ACA debacle. No Amendments-nothing. Take it as is or lump it. So the republicans chose to let the democrats pass it on their own which they did without a single person ever reading the act. Now we find that it is not working except for those who are subsidized and those on medicaid. The premium payers are standing on the sidelines because they cannot afford both the high premium and the deductibles. The employer mandate kicks- in in 2015 and that should be interesting. The country, under Obama, has become the laughing stock of the world. We are no longer respected as we once were. Worst than that, we are not trusted by our allies and that is why we are experiencing difficulty in forming a coalition to fight ISIS. Obama rejected the advice of senior military commanders and did not leave a residual force in Iraq which was stable at the time and we lost all the gains we paid a heavy price for. Now, he is once again rejecting their advice and has us on a path which will end up in us spending trillions without a chance of defeating ISIS. For your information, at least four generals and former secretary Gates have spoken out. As a rule, senior military commanders are pretty much in agreement but many fear speaking out because they fear losing their jobs. The current Obama plan is designed to see him through his last two years and the next president will have to send troops in if we expect to win. Put this on your calendar. The president will pull troops out of Afghanistan on his time-table which the enemy is already aware of. Unless we leave a substantial residual force behind, that country will end up like Iraq. Obama/Biden have an uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. By the way, what you perceive as negativism on the part of conservatives is merely a group of people trying to prevent an out of control president from destroying a great country. We are weaker militarily than we have been since WWII. China is catching up to us both economically and militarily and unless we wake up they will end up being the BMOC. All they need to do subsequently is to ally with Russia and we will be at their beck and call. Status of our country right now: 92 million out of the work force, 47 million on food stamps, hundreds of thousands of illegals pouring through our southern border (including terrorists ) , potential amnesty for millions of illegals which will not help the job situation, cities and counties struggling to feed, house, medicate and educate illegal children invited here by Obama=and the list goes on. Good Luck America !!!
robert66-the republicans were not allowed to parti... (show quote)


I'll try to address a few issues briefly. It it my understanding that the Iraqi government made the US hold to a previous agreement to pull the troops out. The administration did argue that maybe it was not a good idea but we don't run the world so the US pulled combat troops out. It's easy to criticize when you're not still in the thick of things and I think that's what these former advisors are doing. I heard the theory that if you spoke up you would be fired as claims were made against the president. So who knows, maybe so but maybe not. There's one of those negatives. The story that Obama invited all the foreign children here is flat out bull.... you know what. I lost a job in 2000 because of NAFTA. Obama was not the president then. n addition illegals across the border is far from new and people have been trying to come up with a solution to what to do about families that are torn apart because they came here illegally but the children born here are Americans. For these kids this is the only country they have ever lived in. What is the humane thing to do? Is the cruelty of sending an American born child to a country that is foreign to them a necessary evil? The immigration problem is complex and not easily solved unless you elect an Adolph Hitler. Blaming Obama for a f**cked up war and the illegal immigration problem is unwarranted. I do not expect the president to be perfect or make all the right decisions because there is no way to please everyone. What I used to expect was that the American citizens support their president even if they don't agree with their policies. When the US gets conquered and is dismantled then you would be correct in saying I told you so , but until then you will be contributing to it's demise by concentrating on made up stories and conspiracy theories that are nothing more than low down dirty politics.

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Sep 19, 2014 22:28:00   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
Btfkr wrote:
She knows I am spiritual. Not playing with my friend, not that is any of your business.


K... No it's not...just checking, you lie to yourself so I want to see if your true to others...calling you out and feel free to do the same with me.

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Sep 19, 2014 22:47:56   #
robert66
 
no propaganda please wrote:
We cannot decide what is "Best" for America until we decide what direction we want the country to go. The division is along the lines of Do we want the country to go back to the Constitution and the freedoms, given by God, that the Constitution says the government cannot take away from us? Or do we want the Constitution to be reinterpreted every time we don't get our "Fair share" until the country has become another collectivist state, and NO ONE has a fair share of anything except poverty?
We cannot decide what is "Best" for Amer... (show quote)


There is nothing given by God. Isn't there something said like , God helps those who help themselves. Think about it. If you try and work hard you have a good chance to succeed. If you don't you won't. So if you follow the help yourself advice , you did it yourself. Not everyone who works hard does succeed , where is their gift from God? The constitution has to change because it was written over two hundred years ago. If no one told you , things have changed since then. There are ( I think) 27 amendments. Does that tell you something ? We have been and do work in a collective society , don't we ? We all put some of our earnings into the pot and whoever needs it dips in , kind of like at church. I know you're going to say you are not forced to at church but if you participate in organized religion you will be frowned upon if you don't when you can afford it. I live by a lot of Mormons . They sometimes complain about helping some of their lazy members a little too much but of course they still contribute because that is what is expected of them. So to me it sounds like the old , "I better act like I'm all religious and stuff so I could fool God and the community, but deep down I just can't get past the greed factor". So to hell with all these lazy poor people , right ? You and I may not be poor but we too dip out of the collection plate.

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Sep 19, 2014 22:57:38   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Workinman wrote:
K... No it's not...just checking, you lie to yourself so I want to see if your true to others...calling you out and feel free to do the same with me.


OK no prob. I would disagree that I lie to myself or others...but no matter. I do tend to be a smart ass however. The very title of this thread, well, I knew how well it was going to go anyway, so I figured why not have some fun. I probably should not have fun at others expense however. Sometimes life is just too serious to be so serious, ya know?

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Sep 19, 2014 23:01:06   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
Btfkr wrote:
OK no prob. I would disagree that I lie to myself...but no matter. I do tend to be a smart ass however. The very title of this thread, well, I knew how well it was going to go anyway, so I figured why not have some fun. I probably should not have fun at others expense however. Sometimes life is just too serious to be so serious, ya know?


Yes I do..and I am a smart ass as well...you are a nice person but...well you know.. I'm just me.

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Sep 19, 2014 23:30:44   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Workinman wrote:
Yes I do..and I am a smart ass as well...you are a nice person but...well you know.. I'm just me.



I think there is a nice person there too :thumbup: :thumbup: We just don't agree on everything :shock: ;) Good night and rest well:thumbup:

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Sep 20, 2014 10:39:57   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Btfkr wrote:
I think there is a nice person there too :thumbup: :thumbup: We just don't agree on everything :shock: ;) Good night and rest well:thumbup:


Would it be better if we were to think first to look at what we can agree on?

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Sep 20, 2014 19:19:18   #
grace scott
 
robert66 wrote:
Since agreement is impossible there is something else that is possible , compromise. That we can do




You are forgetting that compromise is a dirty word to conservatives.

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Sep 20, 2014 19:33:15   #
robert66
 
grace scott wrote:
You are forgetting that compromise is a dirty word to conservatives.


There are some of those old guys left that know you have to. The dips that got elected on the tea party philosophy appear to not know how to function. Hope we get rid of a few at the mid terms.

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Sep 20, 2014 19:36:25   #
VladimirPee
 
Compromise is overrated. That's how we ended up with 17 trillion in debt. Decades of COMPROMISE. You grease my district and I grease yours. Screw compromise and hold to your position.


robert66 wrote:
Since agreement is impossible there is something else that is possible , compromise. That we can do

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