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Jul 16, 2021 19:20:27   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
peg w wrote:
Threr isn't freedom to create lies that will cause harm and death to people. You can't yell fire in a crowded theatre, and you can't say the Corona vaccines are harmful when they are not.

Dump the trivial scenarios and go deeper in thought,

The federal government has conspired with a privately owned social network giant - Facebook - to establish their own ideas, their own facts, on what is and what is not credible information, and together they are researching ways in which to take an opinion or claim or a report they deem questionable and hold it up to their "fact checker". If it raises the red flag, it is banned.

IOW, A political party running the federal government has teamed up with one of its wealthiest supporters in the private sector to implement an official, federally mandated censorship and suppression of Free Speech.

IOW, a direct and unforgivable violation of our Right to Free Speech.

Same thing they are doing with all of our inalienable, God given rights.

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Jul 16, 2021 19:23:52   #
ChJoe
 
Kevyn wrote:
Freedom of thought and forcing a private entity to publish harmful lies are a world apart. Cranks are entitled to a soapbox in the square not a social media platform to spread deadly disinformation and lies.


Dude, censorship of any form is bad, but when government starts sponsoring it and tailoring it to chime with the gov party line, it becomes oppressive propaganda. IOW, they are stifling free speech. Much of what they want stifled are people opinions about the vaccines and even their questions about things related to the vaccines. If one even asks a question about the vaccine that sounds the least bit contrary, you become demonized and are censored.

Do you honestly think that is right? Then it gets applied to things like immigration voting and even economics. Add in today's technology and their ability to listen in and you have the makings for authoritarianism the likes of which might never have been seen. The can automatically compile listings of people and put them into groups who have certain views of certain things; all done automatically and by computer. It's most likely already begun.

Biden and his controllers are doing what you guys were actually accusing Trump of; building a dictatorship of government control.

Virtually everything you leftists stand for runs much the same way. You claim to hate racism but you build it and grow it like a city and crops. You ignore the hero's like MLK who said he dreamed of a place where people were not judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character and yet, y'all base everything on skin color and try to link it to outcome rather than opportunity.

So much of you leftist's platform is a contradiction of what you claim to be.

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Jul 17, 2021 06:28:15   #
Big Kahuna
 
peg w wrote:
Threr isn't freedom to create lies that will cause harm and death to people. You can't yell fire in a crowded theatre, and you can't say the Corona vaccines are harmful when they are not.


Actually you can't say the Wuhan jab is safe when it is not. It hasn't even been approved by the FDA.

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Jul 17, 2021 06:33:35   #
Big Kahuna
 
steve66613 wrote:
Peg..,you have a pretty good point….leftists should NOT create lies, but, they do.

What’s baffling to me is: progs are all about the right to kill babies, but, think “forced” vaccines are the left’s right to demand.

Hypocrite much?


"My body, my choice", does not apply to the Wuhan jab. It's more like, "my body, the government's choice." This whole vaxx propaganda fiasco is ridiculous and big Daddy government should be kicked out of the vaccine business for what they are doing with their Gestapo tactics. If I wanted to live in a totalitarian state I would have moved to Cuba a long time ago.

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Jul 17, 2021 12:42:35   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Kevyn wrote:
Freedom of thought and forcing a private entity to publish harmful lies are a world apart. Cranks are entitled to a soapbox in the square not a social media platform to spread deadly disinformation and lies.


They spent years publishing that Trump was in collusion with Russian, no evidence, just Leftist rhetoric, I don't remember you having a problem with that lie being published.

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Jul 17, 2021 12:52:56   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
peg w wrote:
Threr isn't freedom to create lies that will cause harm and death to people. You can't yell fire in a crowded theatre, and you can't say the Corona vaccines are harmful when they are not.


They are not harmful to most people, however they have resulted in some serious side effects in some people and long term effects are not known, Need to be careful not to generalize.

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Jul 17, 2021 13:55:25   #
Big Kahuna
 
microphor wrote:
They spent years publishing that Trump was in collusion with Russian, no evidence, just Leftist rhetoric, I don't remember you having a problem with that lie being published.


No demorat that I know had a problem with the Russian Collusion Delusion big lie. Not one retraction from the corrupt major media after all their lies for 4 years. All of them should be in prison now and the key thrown away. If I was Trump I would have prosecuted all of them.

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Jul 17, 2021 15:32:56   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
The first step in tyranny is controlling the information the citizens receive.


The first step was the “plant”! And the killing of a fair election!

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Jul 17, 2021 15:34:21   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Kevyn wrote:
Freedom of thought and forcing a private entity to publish harmful lies are a world apart. Cranks are entitled to a soapbox in the square not a social media platform to spread deadly disinformation and lies.


Deadly to leftist liars and vote stealers!

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Jul 17, 2021 15:56:12   #
Big Kahuna
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
The first step was the “plant”! And the killing of a fair election!


And then saying the election was the fairest election we ever had and no one ever tried to steal the Presidency. What gaul.

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Jul 17, 2021 16:03:01   #
donho50
 
Does this mean that a person who demonstrably became ill from the vaccine, who was hospitalized, treated and recovered, could not opine on the perils of the vaccine on social media? Could not factually relate his/her actual experience? How about if a disclaimer was offered by the writer stipulating that he/she realizes he/she is in the minority of vaccinated persons to become ill, and that the vast majority who get vaccinated suffer no debilitating after effects?
Would that pass muster?
This whole notion of the administration flagging self-defined "misinfomation" and "bringing it to the attention" of Facebook so Facebook could unilaterally determine its merit and suitability for publication on its private forum is the very definition of the slippery slope. SCOTUS, take heed.

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Jul 17, 2021 18:54:39   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Kevyn wrote:
Freedom of thought and forcing a private entity to publish harmful lies are a world apart. Cranks are entitled to a soapbox in the square not a social media platform to spread deadly disinformation and lies.


So why do you keep doing it?
Time magazine admitted they along with other publications and news media conspired to paint Trump in a negative light since before he was elected. If not fake news it is at least biased reporting and a distortion of the truth. But try telling someone that and they get censored.

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Jul 17, 2021 19:24:15   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
drlarrygino wrote:
No demorat that I know had a problem with the Russian Collusion Delusion big lie. Not one retraction from the corrupt major media after all their lies for 4 years. All of them should be in prison now and the key thrown away. If I was Trump I would have prosecuted all of them.


Exactly. No one held accountable for slandering . No media held accountable for printing and promoting false information No one charged with creating a false dossier to incriminate a political opponent unjustly. And no apologies when proven to be false. Someone should be held accountable but the Dems act like it never happened and still treat the dossier as real. FBI ,DOJ, DNC, MSM, all should take blame for corruption of our political system and defamation of character of the president of the U.S. Also treason charges would not be out of line for some of the key players for attempting a coup of our government
All fact but I bet I couldn't say that on facebook.

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Jul 17, 2021 19:50:09   #
Big Kahuna
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Exactly. No one held accountable for slandering . No media held accountable for printing and promoting false information No one charged with creating a false dossier to incriminate a political opponent unjustly. And no apologies when proven to be false. Someone should be held accountable but the Dems act like it never happened and still treat the dossier as real. FBI ,DOJ, DNC, MSM, all should take blame for corruption of our political system and defamation of character of the president of the U.S. Also treason charges would not be out of line for some of the key players for attempting a coup of our government
All fact but I bet I couldn't say that on facebook.
Exactly. No one held accountable for slandering .... (show quote)


All of what you say is true.

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Jul 17, 2021 21:32:02   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
drlarrygino wrote:
No demorat that I know had a problem with the Russian Collusion Delusion big lie. Not one retraction from the corrupt major media after all their lies for 4 years. All of them should be in prison now and the key thrown away. If I was Trump I would have prosecuted all of them.


He knows that he would not get a judge to convict.

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