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Sep 7, 2014 20:22:27   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
By your definition, I must be a jerk. I have never viewed myself as such; goes to show you live and learn.

PaulPisces wrote:
Rumitoid-
One of the defining characteristics of being a jerk is the inability to recognize that one is being a jerk. Hence you were never in a state of jerkdome! Glad you are here and doing some excellent self-review. Keep engaged; everyone benefits.

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Sep 7, 2014 21:19:01   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
By your definition, I must be a jerk. I have never viewed myself as such; goes to show you live and learn.


ginnyt, I am quite certain there have been occasions in your life, although extremely rare, where you may have missed an obvious point and gone off-tangent; over-reacted to a comment or action; or was in mood that narrowed your perspective. As extremely rare as those occasions may have been, they can be defined as "being a jerk." I have seen you apologize and make amends (admit to a momentary "Jerkdom"): this is not a condemnation but rather something precious.

Ergo, you are not a Jerk!

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Sep 7, 2014 21:26:59   #
rumitoid
 
rumitoid wrote:
ginnyt, I am quite certain there have been occasions in your life, although extremely rare, where you may have missed an obvious point and gone off-tangent; over-reacted to a comment or action; or was in mood that narrowed your perspective. As extremely rare as those occasions may have been, they can be defined as "being a jerk." I have seen you apologize and make amends (admit to a momentary "Jerkdom"): this is not a condemnation but rather something precious.

Ergo, you are not a Jerk!
ginnyt, I am quite certain there have been occasio... (show quote)
but just human: an occasional jerk but not really one because you admit it. Is that clear?

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Sep 7, 2014 21:55:13   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
ginnyt wrote:
By your definition, I must be a jerk. I have never viewed myself as such; goes to show you live and learn.


Ginnyt - I think you miss my point. Jerks don't recognize themselves as such, but that does not mean the converse is true. I find generally that true colors do come out, regardless.

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Sep 7, 2014 22:16:04   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
When I view the definition of the other poster, I am indeed a jerk. I do have the knee jerk reactions in response to some comments, even when I am aware that the person making those comments believe they are truthful and rational. I can also come across as arrogant, a know it all. This is unintentional, but I am guilty. I would tell you of my training and such, but that would be an excuse for being a jerk. Also, I do often miss points of humor. Again, I could tell you that my nature is serious and humor often goes over my head or I take almost all comments as literal, again that would be an excuse for being a jerk. As the case happens, an individual will tell me that they understood me to say, srj;efhwohr. Upon realizing that my message was not clear, I apologize because it is the responsibility of the writer to be clear and not leave room for misunderstandings. And, much that I do not want to admit and is not a trait in myself that I like, I do hurt other people's feelings. When I do, and if I am truly sorry, I will apologize. My apologies are not just words for me, I honestly feel sorry for my actions. Hard to believe, but this is undoctored truth. When I find that my apology would be dishonest or not genuine, I say nothing even if the other individual is looking for me to take the step toward making amends. The bottom-line is, I am a class A jerk and now that I recognize it in myself, I have work to do. In that regards, you have been instrumental in bring this to my attention and as such have been an instrument of God. Funny how He works, we just have to open ourselves to His will.

rumitoid wrote:
ginnyt, I am quite certain there have been occasions in your life, although extremely rare, where you may have missed an obvious point and gone off-tangent; over-reacted to a comment or action; or was in mood that narrowed your perspective. As extremely rare as those occasions may have been, they can be defined as "being a jerk." I have seen you apologize and make amends (admit to a momentary "Jerkdom"): this is not a condemnation but rather something precious.

Ergo, you are not a Jerk!
ginnyt, I am quite certain there have been occasio... (show quote)

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Sep 7, 2014 22:37:14   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
When I view the definition of the other poster, I am indeed a jerk. I do have the knee jerk reactions in response to some comments, even when I am aware that the person making those comments believe they are truthful and rational. I can also come across as arrogant, a know it all. This is unintentional, but I am guilty. I would tell you of my training and such, but that would be an excuse for being a jerk. Also, I do often miss points of humor. Again, I could tell you that my nature is serious and humor often goes over my head or I take almost all comments as literal, again that would be an excuse for being a jerk. As the case happens, an individual will tell me that they understood me to say, srj;efhwohr. Upon realizing that my message was not clear, I apologize because it is the responsibility of the writer to be clear and not leave room for misunderstandings. And, much that I do not want to admit and is not a trait in myself that I like, I do hurt other people's feelings. When I do, and if I am truly sorry, I will apologize. My apologies are not just words for me, I honestly feel sorry for my actions. Hard to believe, but this is undoctored truth. When I find that my apology would be dishonest or not genuine, I say nothing even if the other individual is looking for me to take the step toward making amends. The bottom-line is, I am a class A jerk and now that I recognize it in myself, I have work to do. In that regards, you have been instrumental in bring this to my attention and as such have been an instrument of God. Funny how He works, we just have to open ourselves to His will.
When I view the definition of the other poster, I ... (show quote)


One of God's mysteries or paradoxes: by admitting to being a Jerk, that nomenclature cannot include you. As presently defined, the Jerk is not the person who says the occasional hateful comment or appears a troll or can at times be mean-spirited; the true Jerk sees all of those breaches as justified and him- or herself as righteous, unwilling or unable to self-examine or even see a need. You do not fit.

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Sep 7, 2014 23:16:15   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
rumitoid wrote:
Excellent addition! Thank you. I have added a hard copy of this along with my list to my computer. Can only pray that this may actually work and that my jerkdom is over...or at least arrested.


I think that many on opp could try this approach. Kudos.

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Sep 7, 2014 23:21:00   #
rumitoid
 
cant beleve wrote:
I think that many on opp could try this approach. Kudos.


Thank you, but the kudos go to ginnyt.

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Sep 7, 2014 23:23:39   #
rumitoid
 
rumitoid wrote:
One of God's mysteries or paradoxes: by admitting to being a Jerk, that nomenclature cannot include you. As presently defined, the Jerk is not the person who says the occasional hateful comment or appears a troll or can at times be mean-spirited; the true Jerk sees all of those breaches as justified and him- or herself as righteous, unwilling or unable to self-examine or even see a need. You do not fit.


What I failed to comment on, and offer an apology, are your final words: " In that regards, you have been instrumental in bring this to my attention and as such have been an instrument of God. Funny how He works, we just have to open ourselves to His will." Thank you.

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