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Why is it that Republicans continually strive to make voting more difficult?
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Dec 20, 2020 08:23:42   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
moldyoldy wrote:
It is very simple, the GOP cries about voter ID, then makes it almost impossible for minorities to get it. But they wanted an NRA card to be acceptable. They close DMVs in minority areas, just like they closed voting places. The courts looked at some voter ID plans and said they targeted minorities. It is just like the sabotage of the post office to stop voting. The right needs to look at itself. They are not attracting new voters by trying to return to the fifties.


Substantive elections are held every two years. You are claiming that minorities are so stupid and incompetent that they cannot obtain ID acceptable for voting in that time; ID that is in most cases quite inexpensive. Quite a few of these same "disenfranchised" minorities receive some sort of government stipend for which ID that is acceptable for voting is required. They didn't have any problem procuring that.

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Dec 20, 2020 08:40:56   #
Lonewolf
 
JW wrote:
The only people who should be voting are US citizens who are informed and who are willing to expend the effort to go to the polling place on election day. If they meet the qualifications but are physically unable the go to a polling place, they should be accommodated. The rest should go to Hell... or Venezuela, take your pick.


Ever think it might be unconstitutional bet you do but don't care


https://aflcio.org/2014/5/9/25-reasons-why-voter-identification-laws-are-unconstitutional-courtesy-wisconsin

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Dec 20, 2020 08:41:13   #
Lonewolf
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Substantive elections are held every two years. You are claiming that minorities are so stupid and incompetent that they cannot obtain ID acceptable for voting in that time; ID that is in most cases quite inexpensive. Quite a few of these same "disenfranchised" minorities receive some sort of government stipend for which ID that is acceptable for voting is required. They didn't have any problem procuring that.


https://aflcio.org/2014/5/9/25-reasons-why-voter-identification-laws-are-unconstitutional-courtesy-wisconsin

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Dec 20, 2020 08:41:21   #
Lonewolf
 
https://aflcio.org/2014/5/9/25-reasons-why-voter-identification-laws-are-unconstitutional-courtesy-wisconsin

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Dec 20, 2020 08:45:53   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
moldyoldy wrote:
It is very simple, the GOP cries about voter ID, then makes it almost impossible for minorities to get it. But they wanted an NRA card to be acceptable. They close DMVs in minority areas, just like they closed voting places. The courts looked at some voter ID plans and said they targeted minorities. It is just like the sabotage of the post office to stop voting. The right needs to look at itself. They are not attracting new voters by trying to return to the fifties.


How many “voters” don’t have a driver’s license?

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Dec 20, 2020 08:50:38   #
moldyoldy
 
American Vet wrote:
The major ‘minority areas’ are the large urban cities - controlled by democrats.


The states that were held in check by the civil rights amendment are the ones who attacked voting rights.

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Dec 20, 2020 08:56:32   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The states that were held in check by the civil rights amendment are the ones who attacked voting rights.


Like Wisconsin?

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Dec 20, 2020 09:01:43   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
rumitoid wrote:
What are they afraid of? Or more importantly, who are they afraid of? These continued efforts through the decades make no sense if they believe their cause is just and for the common good. If so, they would welcome more voters, being the Party of the people. Yet so much of their effort over the years has been to suppress the vote, and every year at least three of their attempts are crushed by SCOTUS as being unconstitutional or racist.

Sam Levine in New York
Sat, December 19, 2020, 4:00 AM MST

After record turnout in the 2020 presidential election, Republicans in some states are already signaling they will pursue measures that make it harder to vote in the coming years.

The Republican efforts come after an election in which nearly 160 million people voted, the highest in a presidential election in over a century. About half of voters cast their ballots by mail, a big increase from 2016, while about another quarter cast their ballots in person ahead of election day.

The GOP backlash underscores how swiftly and severely the party is willing to cut off access to the ballot amid signs of a changing electorate. The baseless accusations of fraud that Donald Trump and other allies continue to levy about the election has offered election officials justification for passing the measures.

“There will be some states where it is very clear that the existing power structure is worried about their voters. And part of their job security plan is to make it harder for their voters to participate,” said Myrna Pérez, director of the voting rights and elections program at the Brennan Center for Justice.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-strategize-next-elections-plan-110047392.html
What are they afraid of? Or more importantly, who ... (show quote)


Trump said it himself PUBLICLY........................................."if too many people vote, republicans can't win".

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Dec 20, 2020 09:19:09   #
son of witless
 
rumitoid wrote:
What are they afraid of? Or more importantly, who are they afraid of? These continued efforts through the decades make no sense if they believe their cause is just and for the common good. If so, they would welcome more voters, being the Party of the people. Yet so much of their effort over the years has been to suppress the vote, and every year at least three of their attempts are crushed by SCOTUS as being unconstitutional or racist.

Sam Levine in New York
Sat, December 19, 2020, 4:00 AM MST

After record turnout in the 2020 presidential election, Republicans in some states are already signaling they will pursue measures that make it harder to vote in the coming years.

The Republican efforts come after an election in which nearly 160 million people voted, the highest in a presidential election in over a century. About half of voters cast their ballots by mail, a big increase from 2016, while about another quarter cast their ballots in person ahead of election day.

The GOP backlash underscores how swiftly and severely the party is willing to cut off access to the ballot amid signs of a changing electorate. The baseless accusations of fraud that Donald Trump and other allies continue to levy about the election has offered election officials justification for passing the measures.

“There will be some states where it is very clear that the existing power structure is worried about their voters. And part of their job security plan is to make it harder for their voters to participate,” said Myrna Pérez, director of the voting rights and elections program at the Brennan Center for Justice.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-strategize-next-elections-plan-110047392.html
What are they afraid of? Or more importantly, who ... (show quote)


They do not strive to make voting more difficult. They strive to make Democratic cheating more difficult. See how easy that was to answer ?

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Dec 20, 2020 09:23:07   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Lonewolf wrote:


AFL-CIO huh? Well, I wonder why they would be against voter ID. This is one of the most absurd subjects that has ever been discussed. If libs are too stupid to reason that this necessary, then we are in real trouble.

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Dec 20, 2020 09:27:50   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
AFL-CIO huh? Well, I wonder why they would be against voter ID. This is one of the most absurd subjects that has ever been discussed. If libs are too stupid to reason that this necessary, then we are in real trouble.


He thought is was NAMBLA.

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Dec 20, 2020 09:27:50   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
son of witless wrote:
They do not strive to make voting more difficult. They strive to make Democratic cheating more difficult. See how easy that was to answer ?


Exactly!

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Dec 20, 2020 09:42:58   #
moldyoldy
 
amadjuster wrote:
Like Wisconsin?


Scott Walker has a history of voter suppression and intimidation.

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Dec 20, 2020 09:50:32   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Scott Walker has a history of voter suppression and intimidation.


Oh really? Care to share your proof, or did you pull that out of your Lonewolf.

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Dec 20, 2020 09:51:03   #
moldyoldy
 
amadjuster wrote:
He thought is was NAMBLA.


Who do you think would try to impersonate a voter? Maybe one or two people would try it. Not enough to make a difference. In NJ, and in California I used to be able to vote in a neighbor’s garage. The poll workers knew the voters. Those poll sites are no more.

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