Sicilianthing

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Please Seth, most of his advisors are idiots literally and they will not use the tools the founders created because they are ignorant of them, like Trump.

Come back with real facts then we can have a real discussion on the merits at the 11th hour of our Nations demise!!!

Trump has failed and the people must take the next step.

Seth

Sez you.

Sicilianthing

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What are you waiting for
What needs to happen worse for you to act

Seth

Act how? Even if the Democrats manage to cheat Harris in (Biden is a placeholder), the Republicans have retained control of the Senate and gained 5 seats in the House. Pelosi is on her way out as Speaker and there are a few fed up Democrats in that chamber who have had enough Leftism.

The Democratic Party was united in its attempt to get Biden in, but that's party politics. Once they start undoing Trump's economic policies and things start falling apart and they begin trying to unravel the established system (again assuming they successfully cheat the election), their party will be exposed for what it is -- not to mention the internal war we'll be seeing between the far left and fed up Democrats -- and we'll have both the House and Senate in 2022, rendering Biden/Harris a lame duck administration and opening the door to a Trump like Republican administration in the 2024 election.

Trump has set the stage for that reality, just in case he gets cheated out of a second term.

I'd rather let things play out thusly than see a bunch of commando wannabe hotheads plunge America into a bloody revolution that could pit our own troops against American patriots and open doors to Soros friendly UN intervention and a simplified "in" for the CCP.

You and yours don't think things through, you simply want to see violent upheaval at any price.

If you want to make yourselves useful, instead of talking ominously about plans B and C, why not go into cities where Antifa and BLM are rioting, looting and burning things down and start picking them off?

Carol Kelly

Leaving the dead on the voting rolls and having someone vote for them is illegal and unfair. The Democrats are the tools of a Satan.

Carol Kelly

Imagine the tremendous courage of our founding fathers to make the decision to go against King George and his great armies. Then imagine if they’d had no muskets.
They were putting everything up and gambling to win in order to build a great nation that heralded in a new world. We are nervously watching the death of that nation, being put to death my criminals and insanity.

Sicilianthing

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We’re way way past all that pie in the sky crap Seth, this is it and Trump knows it.

You are talking madness and a pipe dream.

I’ll take my chances with America’s patriots and Militias who have at least plans that can help stop the hijacking you continue to support.

Sicilianthing

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This is why I tell you guys it’s time to act!

EmilyD

Act and do what? What is it that you want two elderly people, sitting at home in their country home....retired and relaxing after having worked for half a decade, to do? Go buy a gun and shoot someone? Who???

Sicilianthing

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Not the elderly Emily the others.

SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now

Let's see here...
Workers rights - but only if represented by a crooked labor union
Fair wages - "living wage" for individuals who are in high school level jobs, jobs that are supposed to teach work ethic, values and be a stepping stone to bigger better jobs, not a lifetime career flipping burgers at the nearest burger joint for a single mother eith a couple of kids with no idea where the father is, or who he is.
Equality - not totally, you just want to be more equal, not equal.
Individual Rights - not for any white person, just minorities.
Fair Representatives - but ONLY if the representatives are Democrat.
Did that pretty much spell it out for ya?

EmilyD

From what I've gathered during my time here, A lot of the people you are talking to here on OPP are elderly and retired. And if by "the others" you mean people such as my son and his wife...they are busily bringing up my grandchildren, working towards their own retirement and living their lives according to what they believe in. They certainly don't have any plans to pick up their own guns and start shooting people because of political agendas!

If there are fanatical vigilantes who decide they need to do that, then they need to look at our country's laws against such actions. They could end up in jail with a multitude of legal problems to deal with.

And if things become so chaotic that our National Guard and other military protection is needed, then so be it. That is what they are there for.

SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now

I suspect we are pretty close to the same - retired after over 50 years working, relaxing and a little travel to see grandkids. Yes, definitely go buy a gun, get some good training, go to a range and practice then shoot someone who comes in your home in the middle of the night uninvited.
Partially just kidding, but since you live in the country, you have to be prepared to accept responsibility for your own well bring.
Oh, and a big, loud dog is an asset as well. 😀

Sicilianthing

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Look at things from a new perspective.
The National Guard and military are compromised and they will fight against the people to protect the current Criminal Government you think is legitimate.

Trump has failed to use the Emergency tools and Insurrection Act.

EmilyD

Funny you mention it! We have all of that! (Our dog is not so very big, but she is very loud!) But we're not going to go out looking for insurrection somewhere like Sicillianthing keeps implying people should be doing.

It's going to take some time, not a lot of it, but some, for Marxism to take a strong hold on the country. And it won't be a bloody battle in some town or other...it will be a slow, but sure, takeover of our freedom. And by the time people notice it, it will be too late. That stronghold will be cemented securely in our society by that time.