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Sep 27, 2020 15:22:33   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
[quote=saltwind 78]Capt. Thank you. You have taken the time to answer why you are voting for Trump. I never get an answer
when I asked a supporter why he is voting for Trump.There are a few comments I want to make.
1. The Second Amendment is not in danger. The Democrats would like to see military weapons with multi round magazine banned for sale to civilians, and a better way of keeping these assault rifles and other firearms out of the hands of disturbed people, and felons. I own three pistols myself.
2. The Republican Senate have stolen a Supreme Court nomination from the next President.
3. Although I'm not a big fan of the Electoral College, I see no movement to get rid of it. We're all voting for our republic.
4. I believe that African Americans are subject to far more police brutality and legalized murder. I see it too often on the news. It must stop.
5. How can you say you are voting for the military after the way he has treated gold star families, legit. war hero, and called vets, SUCKERS AND LOSERS ? This from a guy that ducked the draft five times during Nam.
6. I don't see how you are voting for your religion and to practice it freely. Nobody is challenging your right to practice any religion you want to, or no religion at all.
7. I fully understand why you are against abortion. I don't agree with you, but I understand your view.
8. I am voting for the American dream also. I have great respect for anybody that makes it in business. I think we should include working class people in that dream also.
9. I completely disagree with you about your vote for good over evil. Trump is a sociopath,. His own niece is a clinical PhD. psychologist and that was her diagnosis. He meets every single behavior associated with that personality disorder. Read Mary Trump's book or that of John Bolton, and especially Michael Cohen's book on Trump. as well as that of the most distinguished reporter in the country, Bob Woodward.
10. If you believe that you are voting for the future of the country, how can you vote for a candidate that is doing every dirty trick he can think of, including making the post office less efficient in order to win an election by taking away high volume mail counting machines. How can you vote for the future of your country when you vote for a candidate that has caused tens of thousands of American deaths, and knew how dangerous it was from day one and lied about it. How is that pro life?[/quo

NWR TOO MUCH IGNORANCE

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Sep 27, 2020 15:23:55   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
bmac32 wrote:
Advancing his own personal fortunes by donating his salary. Name me three things that Biden has done for this country!


I'll settle for two.

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Sep 27, 2020 15:25:38   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Quakerwidow wrote:


You do realize his post was full of half-truths that have been debunked.

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Sep 27, 2020 15:29:26   #
moldyoldy
 
nonalien1 wrote:
It is against the feds rules and regulations to outright refuse his salary. That's why he donates it.



3 Presidents did not keep their paycheck, the Fourth that started out by not taking his pay, President #1, George Washington, was persuaded to accept it so as not to place a precedent on subsequent presidents, so he used it to defray his presdential office expenses.

President #31 Herbert Clark Hoover gave his salary to many White House Staffers and some Charities during his administration and his altruism started by organizing and partly funding relief and providing food to Europe after the First World War. It was a feat he could not replicate at home to stave off and provide for Americans during the Great Depression, mainly that he was against government unemployment payments. Therefore Homeless Americans set up ‘Hoover Camps’ including some in Washington DC near the White House.

President #35, John F.Kennedy, donated all his public service earnings to charities,

President #45, Donald J Trump, has made an initial show of using his paycheck to be paid back into Government Departments and some Charities, but his travel expenses to his Golf Clubs exceed his annual Salary for each visit that are charges on public funds. Without transparency to his tax returns we may never know if his assertion is true, or just another statement to avoid causing panic (otherwise known as a lie). I wonder if we might soon have ‘Trumptowns’, as the inept administration has left at least 20 million jobless and unable to pay rent through the coronavirus pandemic mishandling.

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Sep 27, 2020 15:30:25   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
1). The Second Amendment is in great danger from the left wing of the Democrap party. Have you actually listened to them? Speaking of which, any weapon you assault someone with is an assault weapon. What the hell is a multi-round magazine? I am an Army veteran who has also been to four county fairs and a goat ropin' and I never heard of one. All magazines are multi-round. All of them Every one.
2). The Republican Senate did not steal anything from anyone. There is this document called the Constitution. You should read it sometime, (or rather, have someone read it to you and explain the big words). It says in the event of a vacancy the president SHALL nominate a replacement. It doesn't say a word about "waiting for the next president" nor does it give the Senate powers to nominate, only to either confirm or deny. No one stole anything except in the minds of a clueless Liberals who prate about a Constitution they have either never read or don't understand.
3). Getting rid of the Electoral College, (which would require a Constitutional Amendment) is not on the table, but not because the Democraps support it, it's because they don't have the wherewithal to trash it.
4). African Americans are a higher percentage of violent arrests simply because they commit far more violent crimes and are far more likely to resist with violence. Black males between the ages of 15 and 30 (according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report) commit more than half the murders in this country and about 70% of the violent crime in general, although they are only about 5% of the population.
Blacks as a whole are 13% of the population, and more than half the murder victims. Once more according to both the FBI and the DOJ (under Obama, no less) 94% of Black murder victims in the last ten years were killed by other Blacks.
5). This scurrilous statement was taken as gospel, although it comes from an "anonymous source" and several people who were present, including John Bolton who is no friend of Trump's said it never happened. If I said I heard from an "anonymous source" that you were a three headed Martian cleverly disguised as Liberal so you could pursue your perversion of sex with underage aardvarks it would be every bit as believable, because it is nothing but third hand crap that I claimed someone else who wishes to not be named said someone else said.
6). Democraps are not anti-religion; just anti-Christianity. (Note I am not a practicing Christian, I have no religious dog in this fight). Liberals go out of their way to attack Christianity while going out of their way to accomodate other religions.
7). Democraps are not just pro abortion; they are pro abortion when the child is viable outside the womb.
8). Until this exaggerated Covid crap hit, we were in the middle of an incredible economic turnaround, experiencing growth that your God-King Obama {PRAISE HIM!!} said would never happen again. Where did you get the idea that Republicans were against the working class? (Especially in light of the fact that the last two presidential elections saw Democrap candidates receive more money from Wall Street than Republicans did).
9). Trump's niece has been estranged from most of the family for years. Her act of publishing a book in which she diagnoses someone whom she has never clinically examined violates all sorts of professional standards. Her book is a witch hunt, and her own ethical shortcomings are ignored by a press eager to pillory the president.
10). Your last accusation is such an egregious deviation from truth that I am afraid if I comment accurately on it, Admin is liable to suspend my account.
1). The Second Amendment is in great danger from t... (show quote)


Smedley you're wasting your time. If he doesn't understand the really SIMPLE desire of the left to get rid of the Constitution completely nevermind just 2A. Or that Bolton and Mary Trump are hacks trying to sell books of fiction his TDS is glaring.

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Sep 27, 2020 15:33:06   #
moldyoldy
 
[quote=Lt. Rob Polans ret.][quote=saltwind 78]Capt. Thank you. You have taken the time to answer why you are voting for Trump. I never get an answer
when I asked a supporter why he is voting for Trump.There are a few comments I want to make.
1. The Second Amendment is not in danger. The Democrats would like to see military weapons with multi round magazine banned for sale to civilians, and a better way of keeping these assault rifles and other firearms out of the hands of disturbed people, and felons. I own three pistols myself.
2. The Republican Senate have stolen a Supreme Court nomination from the next President.
3. Although I'm not a big fan of the Electoral College, I see no movement to get rid of it. We're all voting for our republic.
4. I believe that African Americans are subject to far more police brutality and legalized murder. I see it too often on the news. It must stop.
5. How can you say you are voting for the military after the way he has treated gold star families, legit. war hero, and called vets, SUCKERS AND LOSERS ? This from a guy that ducked the draft five times during Nam.
6. I don't see how you are voting for your religion and to practice it freely. Nobody is challenging your right to practice any religion you want to, or no religion at all.
7. I fully understand why you are against abortion. I don't agree with you, but I understand your view.
8. I am voting for the American dream also. I have great respect for anybody that makes it in business. I think we should include working class people in that dream also.
9. I completely disagree with you about your vote for good over evil. Trump is a sociopath,. His own niece is a clinical PhD. psychologist and that was her diagnosis. He meets every single behavior associated with that personality disorder. Read Mary Trump's book or that of John Bolton, and especially Michael Cohen's book on Trump. as well as that of the most distinguished reporter in the country, Bob Woodward.
10. If you believe that you are voting for the future of the country, how can you vote for a candidate that is doing every dirty trick he can think of, including making the post office less efficient in order to win an election by taking away high volume mail counting machines. How can you vote for the future of your country when you vote for a candidate that has caused tens of thousands of American deaths, and knew how dangerous it was from day one and lied about it. How is that pro life?[/quo

NWR TOO MUCH IGNORANCE[/quote]

Avoid the facts as much as you can.

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Sep 27, 2020 15:43:40   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
DASHY wrote:
The Trump administration continues to repeat unproven pandemic conspiracy theories. This Trump tactic appears to be yet another obstacle to minimizing the spread of Covid-19. Trump believes that by shining the light on China and away from his own pitiful response to the virus attack, his chances of being reelected will be improved. Are you buying this crap?


Almost correct this time. Change it to WHO, CDC, NIH, Fauci and Birx with the weird COVID conspiracy theories. Is CV any more than the regular flu? No, in fact check the death charts Covid is behind almost everything so stop the hysterics and throw the masks and distancing away it really has one purpose and it'snot your health.

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Sep 27, 2020 15:46:00   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
CarryOn wrote:
If he is so proud of what he has done in his "career," he could easily show all of us by releasing his Senate records ... which unfortunately remain sealed at the University of Delaware. Well, except for earlier this year when democrat operatives were sent to the University to scour his records after the Tara Reade accusations ... they got a look at those supposedly "sealed" records ... but no one else can see them. Huh.


I've got his picks (all five) for SCOTUS not one Constitutional judge.

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Sep 27, 2020 15:48:29   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
dardar wrote:
This is awesome!! This is exactly what more people need to realize, forget the person and vote for the good of our country. I love this and am behind you 100% God Bless America.


That's what drew me to him in 2016, not that we were old friends or the good deeds he did.

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Sep 27, 2020 15:54:43   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Almost correct this time. Change it to WHO, CDC, NIH, Fauci and Birx with the weird COVID conspiracy theories. Is CV any more than the regular flu? No, in fact check the death charts Covid is behind almost everything so stop the hysterics and throw the masks and distancing away it really has one purpose and it'snot your health.


Regular flu has nowhere near 200,000 US deaths in a year, let alone six months.

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Sep 27, 2020 16:27:22   #
moldyoldy
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
I've got his picks (all five) for SCOTUS not one Constitutional judge.


Amazing, since he has not made a list. The whole idea is premature.

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Sep 27, 2020 16:48:12   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Capt-jack wrote:
To answer all of those who would say, I can't believe you would vote for Trump.


Well, folks listen up! I'm not voting for Trump!

I'm voting for the Second Amendment.

You don't need to... The 2nd Amendment is already a law and has been since 1789. Nor is there a motion to repeal it.

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for the next Supreme Court Justice.

You don't need to... the next Supreme Court Justice will be confirmed regardless.

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for the Electoral College and the Republic we live in.

You don't need to... Both the EC and the republic already exist and there is no motion to end either.

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for the Police, and law and order.

You don't need to... No one is asking for chaos and no one is suggesting we get rid of the police either.

Do you need some clarification on what defunding means? Right-wing propaganda will tell you the Democrats want to get rid of the police, which really doesn't make any sense at all, but I guess making sense of anything isn't part of being a sucker. If you are interest at all in what defunding the police really means, it's a shift of *some* money from the police budgets being used on military training and equipment, to other programs that will help to solve problems that people have BEFORE they become a burden to the police.

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for the Military and the Veterans who fought for and died for you and this Country.

Then you should definitely vote AGAINST Trump. His inability to stick to his decisions on military matters, his disregard for advice from top brass, his lack of strategy in ANY theater, his pardons for war criminals AGAINST the advice of the military command, his constant saber rattling... these things have led to this...



Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for the Flag that is always missing from the Democratic background.

You don't need to... no one is threatening to take the flag away. BTW, I see the flag in the Democratic backgrounds all the time...



Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored.

Then you need to vote against Trump, the only president to issue lists of words that his agencies can't mention. The only president to shut down White House press conferences for extended periods. You need to vote against the Republicans the party behind every censorship law on the books.

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for secure borders.

I would suggest you vote for someone else then... While Trump was trying to fund the wall (after Mexico said FU) he was also defunding the Coast Guard which has intercepted more illegal traffic into the U.S. than the Border Patrol. So now it's easier for immigrants to get a boat and go around the wall.

Also, Trump never built the wall he was promising. All he's done is add more fencing to what previous presidents have already built. The only difference is these previous presidents, including Obama, didn't turn it into a circus act. They never said they were going to make the Mexicans pay for it and they never declared national emergencies so they could steal money from the military budget to help pay for it

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for the right to praise my God without fear.

Well, if your scared of praising God, I would call that a personal problem.

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for every unborn soul the Democrats want to murder.

*sigh* I guess in the 40 years since Roe v Wade, you folks still haven't caught on to the fact that Republicans in Congress have no intention of EVER banning abortion. Conservatives continue to be suckered into thinking the decision can be overturned by judges but they can't. Judges make decisions according to the laws not their personal ideologies and there is no law currently on the books that will allow judges to overturn Roe v Wade. If you want to see a ban on abortions you have to appeal to Congress... THEY are the ones that make the laws. But in all the 40 years since Roe v Wade, Republican lawmakers in Washington have NEVER pushed for that law, even all those times when the Republicans controlled the Senate AND the House.

If Republicans ever established a law against abortions they would lose that pro-life crusadership role during election seasons that continue to secure votes for them, year after year. That and the baseless fear of losing the 2nd Amendment have been the ol' standby's for Republican election campaigns for a long time.

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for Freedom and the American Dream.

Then you should CERTAINLY vote against Trump... Unless of course you have at least couple million in your account.

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm voting for good and against evil.

Huh, most Americans would say they are voting for the lesser of two evils. But I guess if your brainwashed enough you would see your candidate as "good".

Capt-jack wrote:

I'm not just voting for one person,

I'm voting for the future of my Country!

What or who are you voting for?

Well, most liberals would say the same thing. They are voting for the future of their country. But I will be a little more specific. I'm voting for 99% of my country as in not the 1% elite that Trump has been serving to the detriment of everyone else for the last 4 years

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Sep 27, 2020 17:03:41   #
SWMBO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
If he refused the salary it would mean something, but he donates it, so he can use it as a tax write off.


If he refused the money it would just go back into the government's pockets. What he does is donate it to worthy causes, like Shepherds Purse. There is a thoughtful man at his best.

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Sep 27, 2020 17:21:19   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
Quaker widow: 1st there has not been 200,000 Covid Deaths period. Every heart death, every stroke death, every pneumonia death, every Auto accident death, every Sucide Death, on and on they are all in the Covid Death Count. Just check the CDC death rate from all causes for the last 10 years, divide by 12 and multiple by 9. This would give death rate approximately for 9mts or 2020. I think you will be surprised.

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Sep 27, 2020 17:25:41   #
moldyoldy
 
SWMBO wrote:
If he refused the money it would just go back into the government's pockets. What he does is donate it to worthy causes, like Shepherds Purse. There is a thoughtful man at his best.


Yeah, he stole money for vets donated to charity. He paid 25 million for his fake school. He is thoughtful alright, about how to cheat people.

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