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May 2, 2020 16:50:48   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
working class stiff wrote:
right...that's the difference.

Since when is selling cigarettes on a street corner illegal?


When you live in New York City.

When that man was gaffled up by the cops and died I thought to myself, "What fkn interest does the city of New York have in keeping a guy from hawking cigarettes he bought to begin with???"

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May 2, 2020 16:57:34   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
BigMike wrote:
When you live in New York City.

When that man was gaffled up by the cops and died I thought to myself, "What fkn interest does the city of New York have in keeping a guy from hawking cigarettes he bought to begin with???"


Its the same as the movie companies decided they were being cheated by nursing homes and churches senior citizens showing movies in their place to crowds of old folks a couple of years ago they sent out letters stating that if any of these places wanted to show the movies they needed to pay I think it was 300 a year for the privilege or be fined and or jailed if the didn't. Thes facilities BUY the movie its private property they have rights toOur facility simply told activities no more movies in group single person could watch in their room nothing else

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May 2, 2020 17:13:50   #
Seth
 
working class stiff wrote:
right...that's the difference.

Since when is selling cigarettes on a street corner illegal?


It's a tax and license issue: purveyance of tobacco products is heavily regulated by both the federal government and various states, and selling "loosies" is not even legal in many states for a licensed seller of tobacco. Each pack of cigarettes and each pouch of rolling tobacco is tax stamped for sale as one item.

The "I can't breathe" gentleman had been busted for selling "loosies" previously and was totally aware that he was violating the law by doing it again. Then he decided to resist arrest, fighting with the police.

It not a cop's is to take physical abuse when he can do something about it. The choke hold was merely meant to subdue, not kill.

You can, as lefties these days do, pursue a lie that the shooting was "racist," but according to the FBI, more Caucasian men are shot by law enforcement than are blacks. The racism angle is pure politics designed to perpetuate a racial divide in order to hang on to the black vote.

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May 2, 2020 17:55:26   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Seth wrote:
It's a tax and license issue: purveyance of tobacco products is heavily regulated by both the federal government and various states, and selling "loosies" is not even legal in many states for a licensed seller of tobacco. Each pack of cigarettes and each pouch of rolling tobacco is tax stamped for sale as one item.

The "I can't breathe" gentleman had been busted for selling "loosies" previously and was totally aware that he was violating the law by doing it again. Then he decided to resist arrest, fighting with the police.

It not a cop's is to take physical abuse when he can do something about it. The choke hold was merely meant to subdue, not kill.

You can, as lefties these days do, pursue a lie that the shooting was "racist," but according to the FBI, more Caucasian men are shot by law enforcement than are blacks. The racism angle is pure politics designed to perpetuate a racial divide in order to hang on to the black vote.
It's a tax and license issue: purveyance of tobacc... (show quote)


Oh yeah...guys like him are bankrupting the city! Give me a break!

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May 2, 2020 18:12:01   #
American Vet
 
working class stiff wrote:
Selling loosies is not smuggling....nor a crime.


It is in NYC.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8737907

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May 2, 2020 18:12:05   #
Seth
 
BigMike wrote:
Oh yeah...guys like him are bankrupting the city! Give me a break!


It's not that at all, it's just like any other law. People are ticketed for jaywalking, for example, even if there are no vehicles coming down the street or cited for littering even for dropping a gum wrapper onto a heavily garbage-strewn sidewalk.

We may not like it, but the politicians we put in office make such laws and charge the local police with enforcing them. The collective of fines taken in are the revenues of "city business," just like permit fees, etc.

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May 3, 2020 00:05:47   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
As far as the armed protesters, it's just a matter of time until someone makes a mistake, a trigger gets pulled, and mayhem erupts. After that, all bets are off. It's gonna be messy.

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May 3, 2020 00:19:05   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
whitnebrat wrote:
As far as the armed protesters, it's just a matter of time until someone makes a mistake, a trigger gets pulled, and mayhem erupts. After that, all bets are off. It's gonna be messy.


It just a matter of time before some politician goes too far and gets shot by, or the police try to stop the demonstrators. But you don't have to worry, it okay if you don't have the cajones to stand up for your rights. Remember, the Bill of Rights exists to protect you from the government, not the other way around.

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May 3, 2020 06:03:16   #
Idaho
 
dtucker300 wrote:
It just a matter of time before some politician goes too far and gets shot by, or the police try to stop the demonstrators. But you don't have to worry, it okay if you don't have the cajones to stand up for your rights. Remember, the Bill of Rights exists to protect you from the government, not the other way around.


Come on OPP folks, don’t fall for this kind of narrative. Selling illegal cigarettes has absolutely no correlation to second amendment right or protesting against de facto house arrest.

If you want to make a reasonable comparison to show how one sided and biased press coverage is - compare the coverage of these guys who are lawfully carrying and lawfully protesting compared to the thuggery of antifa who illegally intimidate and beat people up.

Stop falling for the left’s tricks by continuing a discussion on the original poster’s terms and just call him out for trying to compare apples with jack straws.

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May 3, 2020 06:20:29   #
Big Kahuna
 
bggamers wrote:
Abrams walked down the streets of Atlanta with the black armed panthers during a parade and she wonders why she lost to me she was showing everyone where she stood and it wasn't with ALL her constituents


Big fat pig Stacey Abrams was reported to have been seen walking down the streets of Georgia without the Black Panthers. I think she was charging $50 dollars a trick.

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May 3, 2020 08:19:20   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Big fat pig Stacey Abrams was reported to have been seen walking down the streets of Georgia without the Black Panthers. I think she was charging $50 dollars a trick.


Did that include a paper sack?

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May 3, 2020 08:21:20   #
Tug484
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Even if you ardently believe what the protestors are doing is laudable, surely you can see how there is a different standard for different people.


Any cop will tell you, if a perp says I can't breathe, they're lying.
The cigarette man said he couldn't breathe.
If you can talk, you're breathing .

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May 3, 2020 08:32:50   #
Cuda2020
 
American Vet wrote:
One is legal, the other wasn’t.


How is carrying weapons(of mass destruction) supposed to be considered a peaceful protest and not an illegal threat?

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May 3, 2020 08:34:41   #
Cuda2020
 
Tug484 wrote:
Any cop will tell you, if a perp says I can't breathe, they're lying.
The cigarette man said he couldn't breathe.
If you can talk, you're breathing .


You mean like the black man they murdered who was saying the same thing before he died? 43-year-old father of six, remember him, Eric Garner.

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May 3, 2020 08:36:06   #
American Vet
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
How is carrying weapons(of mass destruction) supposed to be considered a peaceful protest and not an illegal threat?


So you consider a gun (rifle or pistol) as a 'weapon of mass destruction?

I appears none were used in a threatening manner. Except, of course, to leftist who are terrified of guns (hoplophobiacs).

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