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Feb 16, 2020 13:50:55   #
Singularity
 
JoyV wrote:
How can you take an American flag and make a lapel pin out of it? The point about clothing is not that making clothes which have stars and stripes prominently displayed is wrong. It is that taking an actual American flag and using it for material to make clothes out of is wrong. Wearing images or icons representing American flags is patriotic. Wearing the actual American flag is not!


It is a symbol. A rectangle of cloth is not a flag until it is adorned with the symbol.

As in the Ten Commandments, where one is told to not only eschew worshipping symbolic figures, but to not even create them.
What if it is a square cloth patch sewn onto clothing? Isn't that exactly the same sing as a flag before it is sewn on? I know I am nitpicking here but as I said it's quite confusing.

I am told that, symbols, graven images, once created, they have a spiritual personality and meaning!?! Their presence before others invokes that spiritual power. I know! Weird. But I do feel suddenly patriotic when I see that flag or its facsimile, and my guts rebelled at the black and white and thin blue line one. Meh. Personal psychosis?

At least that's how the priest explained it to me. I couldn't follow the rest of the explanations regarding the idol of Mary and of St Francis being okay to pray to...

So maybe it is ALL bs, and there really is no reason to bother about it.

So, shouldn't we also leave Colin whose last name I still can't spell alone, then?

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Feb 16, 2020 13:57:32   #
Singularity
 
JoyV wrote:
How can you take an American flag and make a lapel pin out of it? The point about clothing is not that making clothes which have stars and stripes prominently displayed is wrong. It is that taking an actual American flag and using it for material to make clothes out of is wrong. Wearing images or icons representing American flags is patriotic. Wearing the actual American flag is not!


So what was your reaction to the situation in the photo I posted?

Particularly the half mast position and insecure attachment of the real American Flag displayed. Its clearly a thoughtless afterthought.

Possibly accidental.

Worthy of comment and correction to the entity so displaying it?

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Feb 16, 2020 14:04:27   #
Singularity
 
bahmer wrote:
Thank you for all of that information there Singularity it is much appreciated. Some I knew bot others I didn't.

Ramen and ramen!

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Feb 16, 2020 14:10:55   #
Mike Easterday
 
Thanks for posting this information !!!

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Feb 16, 2020 14:17:29   #
Singularity
 
Mike Easterday wrote:
Thanks for posting this information !!!


No worries! Thanks for stopping by!

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Feb 16, 2020 15:39:59   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Lonewolf wrote:
And the flag shouldn't be worn as clothes


Goalie Jim Craig, US Olympic Hockey Team, 1980 gold medalist.



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Feb 16, 2020 16:47:02   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
bggamers wrote:
Flag protocol has gone down into the mud they allow people to step on it burn it urinate on it etc. Its considered hate speech now. In my day it was an honor to be picked to raise and lower the flag at school you were taught how to fold it to honor it none of that happens any more this is also part of the dems to take away the meaning and respect for the flag of the nation same with prayer making it easier to promote control. About the only ones who even bother with the protocol is SOME American civilians police military and ROTC
Flag protocol has gone down into the mud they allo... (show quote)


In my day too and I'll bet I'm younger, but I still respect the flag. I have a pin that my dad wore, personally I don't wear it, it's in a box with other keepsakes from him. I was thinking that kind of depends Kent State and Ohio State still respect the flag, but as of about two years ago (glad my daughter left Kent for an online degree-her senior year) they weren't doing it anymore. Just ROTC and the military showed you how to fold the flag, never let it touch the ground etc.

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Feb 16, 2020 16:55:23   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
JoyV wrote:
How can you take an American flag and make a lapel pin out of it? The point about clothing is not that making clothes which have stars and stripes prominently displayed is wrong. It is that taking an actual American flag and using it for material to make clothes out of is wrong. Wearing images or icons representing American flags is patriotic. Wearing the actual American flag is not!


I agree with everything but one the pin for your lapel. Usually, men, although I think I've seen a few women in business, have it because they are patriotic and let's face it, carry a flag to work? Most often these are WWII veterans wearing that lapel pin. Wearing a flag definitely is not patriotic, it's making fun of the flag.

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Feb 16, 2020 17:59:32   #
woodguru
 
JoyV wrote:
How can you take an American flag and make a lapel pin out of it? The point about clothing is not that making clothes which have stars and stripes prominently displayed is wrong. It is that taking an actual American flag and using it for material to make clothes out of is wrong. Wearing images or icons representing American flags is patriotic. Wearing the actual American flag is not!


I've thought the same thing, that wearing pieces of the flag as clothes is a pretty bad violation, but those wearing flag clothes aren't seeing it like that, they are seeing it as a freedom of speech of sorts. I shrug on those things and figure its not my place to go there. I feel strongly enough about personal desecrations of the flag to step in and say something though, throwing on the ground, stomping on it, etc... nope.

One that has caught my eye is the big flags being flown behind trucks, a few miles at 70 mph starts tattering the edges, it's pretty disrespectful to the flag... but when I look at the usually young guys with lifted trucks and attitudes who are doing this, they are doing it to express a screw you attitude, and to say something would undoubtedly end up with violence...i figure it isn't worth it having to shoot someone with an attitude over their attitude towards the flag that is likely misplaced feelings of patriotism.

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Feb 16, 2020 18:21:46   #
JoyV
 
Singularity wrote:
So what was your reaction to the situation in the photo I posted?

Particularly the half mast position and insecure attachment of the real American Flag displayed. Its clearly a thoughtless afterthought.

Possibly accidental.

Worthy of comment and correction to the entity so displaying it?

It may have been thoughtless. But it shouldn't have been. Especially in a government office. Hopefully they will correct it if the problem is pointed out to them. But they should have known better.

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