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Jun 16, 2014 22:30:15   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Rufus wrote:
Here Alicia. I hope this helps to shine some light on the subject. Like I said we do not know everything about God. He tells us there are some mysteries we will not understand and He explains some of them to us. We trust Him because as Christians He has proven Himself to us many times. But even before He did we simply put our faith and trust in Him.

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Sorry, Rufus, but I can't put faith in anything that can't be backed up. I'll stick with science. :roll:

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Jun 16, 2014 22:41:05   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Rufus wrote:
Dervishes, smervishes!!! What? You want I should name names? We don't don't know them by names. These were not noteworthy men. They were simply rouge wanderers. Desert trash.

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Aren't you kind though. Do you refer to other people as trash?
:) :) :)

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Jun 16, 2014 22:48:46   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
rhomin57 wrote:
I'm glad you agree, but wonder why Alicia wanted to know who they were?

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At the time I was not interested in Dervish names. I was present at a prayer meeting. Have you never heard of the Whirling Dervishes :?: Quite interesting.

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Jun 16, 2014 22:50:11   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Christianity Did Not come from Jewish Tradition, knumbskull.
Christianity came from a Jewish Messiah, who abolished animal sacrifices and the Curse of Death (slumbering in the grave waiting for Jesus to begin the Resurrection), plus the ancient Book of the Law.
Once Jesus Christ made his appearance, the only thing left of the ancient book of the Law, was God's implementation of his promise in it. As Jesus stated: he did not come to change one jot of tittle of God's Word.
The implementation of God's Promise begins in Revelation when it speaks of the little book in the Angels hand. That little book is the book of the law which judges the Old Testament Hebrews/Jews. You can also find direct reference to this same thing in Old Testament, written millenniums back.
The new testament completes the old testament, but that acts within each are intirely different.

I have a Jefferson Bible, and have read it.

Thomas Jefferson was a man with a great mind. He also lived in a great sin. He had a white wife, his lawful marriage and kids, plus he had a black wife- a mistress and children by her. He supported both households.

You do not read of Jefferson convicting himself under the Son of God, the Savior, yet he expounds on the Morals Jesus Christ lived and walked in as what every man should try to obtain.
Thomas Jefferson is an ancestor in my family lineage. I know what I'm talking about.


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[quote=Hungry Freaks][quote=rhomin57]I know enough not to put my whole head in the serpents mouth
The Quran is made up of the Jewish Old Testament, the Christian New Testament, Buddhaism, Confucius, Zoroaster.
This is printed and known fact.
Shall I tell you about their 'five pillars'? (Al-Arkan)
The line of Caliphates, Imams.
Any Iman that up and disappears for a decade or so is expected to return as their Mahdi.
One of Muhammads close associates was 'Othman', the family that began the Ottoman Islamic Turkish Empire."
That the ten heads spoken of is Revelation is the 10 sultans that assisted the rising of the Ottoman Islamic Turkish Empire.
That the Capital of Islam for many of its early years was Baghdad.
Would you like to know who their dervishes were?
Shall I go on and on and on of stuff you have no idea of what it is I'm talking about? You who accuse people of not Knowing Anything!

The Quran begins with this: la ilaha illa Allah. (There is no God but Allah)/quote]


****************************Christianity came from Jewish tradition which itself had many common aspects with Zoroaster and a half-dozen other early regions. The Flood Story and the Garden of Eden can be found in Sumerian and Persian religious stories.

The Old Testament was mostly passed down through oral tradition or through early Sumerian written language. The Gospels were written many decades, if not longer, after the life of Jesus. There are plenty of cases where translation can be questioned.

Read the works of Philip M. Allegro, a Cambridge University linguistic scholar who helped interpret the Dead Sea Scrolls. He and others give quite different answers to your rather dogmatic and revisionist interpretations.




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Jun 16, 2014 22:52:24   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
Alicia wrote:
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Aren't you kind though. Do you refer to other people as trash?
:) :) :)


Bless you my sweet horny child. I will be here when you find the truth and come to the end of your journey only to cry out that I am your Lord and Master. I love you more than any man has ever loved a woman.

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Jun 16, 2014 22:53:13   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Christianity Did Not come from Jewish Tradition, knumbskull.
Christianity came from a Jewish Messiah, who abolished animal sacrifices and the Curse of Death (slumbering in the grave waiting for Jesus to begin the Resurrection), plus the ancient Book of the Law.
Once Jesus Christ made his appearance, the only thing left of the ancient book of the Law, was God's implementation of his promise in it. As Jesus stated: he did not come to change one jot of tittle of God's Word.
The new testament complete the old testament, but that acts within each are intirely different.

I have a Jefferson Bible, and have read it.

Thomas Jefferson was a man with a great mind. He also lived in a great sin. He had a white wife, his lawful marriage and kids, plus he had a black wife- a mistress and children by her. He supported both households.

You do not read of Jefferson convicting himself under the Son of God, the Savior, yet he expounds on the Morals Jesus Christ lived and walked in as what every man should try to obtain.
Thomas Jefferson is an ancestor in my family lineage. I know what I'm talking about.
Christianity Did Not come from Jewish Tradition, k... (show quote)


The sectioning for these comments are all messed up.

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Jun 16, 2014 22:53:16   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Rufus wrote:
Alicia, who's writing this crap for you? You need to fire them and hire a new writer. Maybe you can get Bill Ayers, you know the guy who wrote Obamas autobiography?

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You might be interested in the writings of Dan Brown. He has some very interesting comments about Freemasonry.

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Jun 16, 2014 23:02:04   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Rufus wrote:
Bless you my sweet horny child. I will be here when you find the truth and come to the end of your journey only to cry out that I am your Lord and Master. I love you more than any man has ever loved a woman.

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Aw, shucks!
:D :D :D :D :D

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Jun 16, 2014 23:09:54   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
The Old Testament was mostly passed down through oral tradition or through early Sumerian written language. The Gospels were written many decades, if not longer, after the life of Jesus. There are plenty of cases where translation can be questioned.

Read the works of Philip M. Allegro, a Cambridge University linguistic scholar who helped interpret the Dead Sea Scrolls. He and others give quite different answers to your rather dogmatic and revisionist interpretations. (by hungary freaks I believe, sorry if wrong.)
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The ancient Samarians knew nothing about the Hebrew God until their King Esarhaddon captured part of Israel and sent those Hebrews in that part of Israel to live in Samaria, and then planted some of his Samarian people to live in that part of Israel.
God was angered at their idol worship in his land of Israel and sent man-eating lions on them that killed whole villages of the Samarians in Israel. Priests from Israel were sent to those samarians to teach them the ways of God.
They remained not believing in God, but did act out God's Laws in their lifestyle. This is scripture, and the last of those man-eating lions were finally killed in Africa long ago.
They are stuffed and in a museum to see.


Moses scrolls of leather, and parchment, were kept within the Ark of the Covenant. The Book of the Law, which was the Curse of Death was kept in a sleeve in the side of the Ark of the Covenant.
I won't find these scripture for you, however they are in Exodus and Deuteronomy.
You need to enlighten yourself about scripture in the Holy Bible as a whole before telling anyone anything about it.

You keep posting ways to disprove it, make it weak, and not believable, rather than read it with open heart and allow it to prove itself to you through the Spirit of God who spoke it for the Prophets writing.

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