We all 'feel' for the poor underpaid slob pushing the broom through the production floor after all the well-paid production workers have gone home for the day. We look at him and empathize to overflowing, wishing there was some way we could improve his lot in this cruel, unfeeling world...

Then along comes some bright spark with an answer. Give him a raise! Ah, yes, you sigh, if only the boss would go along with such a suggestion, that would be wonderful. Oh, no, our young upstart interjects, don't just suggest it to the boss, make him do it! Get the politicians to enact a law requiring that all employers will pay no less than an arbitrarily chosen hourly wage and impose severe penalties for non-compliance, up to and including death, then sit back and feel good about yourself as you watch the floor sweeper perform his daily broom-pushing ritual with a smile on his once downtrodden face. Ah, the bliss!

(Sound of wheels screeching, a loud crash and then? Silence...)

Oh, no! The floor sweeper has been laid off! Downsized. Right-sized. On the dole. Now you are tasked with cleaning up your own work space at the end of your shift because the floor sweeper is too expensive and your co-workers politely declined the boss' offer to take a pay cut to finance the janitor's 'living wage' payout for the floor sweeper. Damn capitalists! What we need is a more powerful government that can 'make' the employers give everyone a job with a good wage.

And so the scourge of socialism spreads it's tentacles into our society, commerce and politics.

I'd say we're maybe about halfway to the socialist utopia that is wage and price controls:

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/minimum-wage-job-losses-red-states/

I believe a worker should be paid a fair wage for their labor.

What people do not take into consideration is that when wages go up, the cost of their product has to go up. Then the buyer has to pay more then when they buy the product and their wage increase is included in their selling price.

The shipper has to pay more in labor cost and fuel so that is passed on to the customer.

The grocery store employees wage goes up so the store must pass that increase in cost to you the consumer. Costing you more to buy food.

It is a vicious circle which makes that .25 cent pay raise cost you a $1.00 more so you are actually losing buying power.

What does the floor sweeper do if that's the only job in town and it won't pay the rent?
Wal-Mart clears over 18 billion a year by keeping workers hours down so they qualify for government programs to barely survive so taxpayers foot the bill.
The republican party is the party of the rich and continues to keep its boot on the throat of the working class!





quote=Larry the Legend]We all 'feel' for the poor underpaid slob pushing the broom through the production floor after all the well-paid production workers have gone home for the day. We look at him and empathize to overflowing, wishing there was some way we could improve his lot in this cruel, unfeeling world...

Then along comes some bright spark with an answer. Give him a raise! Ah, yes, you sigh, if only the boss would go along with such a suggestion, that would be wonderful. Oh, no, our young upstart interjects, don't just suggest it to the boss, make him do it! Get the politicians to enact a law requiring that all employers will pay no less than an arbitrarily chosen hourly wage and impose severe penalties for non-compliance, up to and including death, then sit back and feel good about yourself as you watch the floor sweeper perform his daily broom-pushing ritual with a smile on his once downtrodden face. Ah, the bliss!

(Sound of wheels screeching, a loud crash and then? Silence...)

Oh, no! The floor sweeper has been laid off! Downsized. Right-sized. On the dole. Now you are tasked with cleaning up your own work space at the end of your shift because the floor sweeper is too expensive and your co-workers politely declined the boss' offer to take a pay cut to finance the janitor's 'living wage' payout for the floor sweeper. Damn capitalists! What we need is a more powerful government that can 'make' the employers give everyone a job with a good wage.

And so the scourge of socialism spreads it's tentacles into our society, commerce and politics.

I'd say we're maybe about halfway to the socialist utopia that is wage and price controls:

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/minimum-wage-job-losses-red-states/

What does the floor sweeper do if that's the only job in town and it won't pay the rent?
Wal-Mart clears over 18 billion a year by keeping workers hours down so they qualify for government programs to barely survive so taxpayers foot the bill.
The republican party is the party of the rich and continues to keep its boot on the throat of the working class!

The sweeper does what any self respecting person does. He becomes proficient in a skill that will pay more than sweeping.
Capitalism, unlike your preferred socialism model, allows people to climb as high as they want. They're limited only by their drive, hard work, ingenuity, and luck. Sometimes the sweeper can become the CEO.



quote=Larry the Legend]We all 'feel' for the poor underpaid slob pushing the broom through the production floor after all the well-paid production workers have gone home for the day. We look at him and empathize to overflowing, wishing there was some way we could improve his lot in this cruel, unfeeling world...

Then along comes some bright spark with an answer. Give him a raise! Ah, yes, you sigh, if only the boss would go along with such a suggestion, that would be wonderful. Oh, no, our young upstart interjects, don't just suggest it to the boss, make him do it! Get the politicians to enact a law requiring that all employers will pay no less than an arbitrarily chosen hourly wage and impose severe penalties for non-compliance, up to and including death, then sit back and feel good about yourself as you watch the floor sweeper perform his daily broom-pushing ritual with a smile on his once downtrodden face. Ah, the bliss!

(Sound of wheels screeching, a loud crash and then? Silence...)

Oh, no! The floor sweeper has been laid off! Downsized. Right-sized. On the dole. Now you are tasked with cleaning up your own work space at the end of your shift because the floor sweeper is too expensive and your co-workers politely declined the boss' offer to take a pay cut to finance the janitor's 'living wage' payout for the floor sweeper. Damn capitalists! What we need is a more powerful government that can 'make' the employers give everyone a job with a good wage.

And so the scourge of socialism spreads it's tentacles into our society, commerce and politics.

I'd say we're maybe about halfway to the socialist utopia that is wage and price controls:

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/minimum-wage-job-losses-red-states/

Somehow I'm missing something in all this wage crap. When I got into the work force and wanted to make more money, I looked for a another job that paid better. Does these damn people think that just because they are underpaid not realize that most small companies are probably paying as much as they can in order to keep decent employees. Some companies can afford to pay more than others, so go look for that company. No, that would take a little time for them to do that, so its easier to try and force a pay raise from the company they are now employed by. And, since when does a McDonald or the likes thereof proclaim to be a lifetime job. It's a beginner for young people to get into the workforce in order to learn and grow. And if you libs are so intent on forcing these companies to pay beyond their means, maybe you should try owning one sometime and see how much fun it is.