lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Perhaps if this continued scare cycle took responsibility for their warnings they wouldn't look so unreliable later, when it comes and passes...

All speculation as to what or when the next extinction will arrive and or the mass carbon you speak of from humans will cause more than the Earth can handle...It is however something to speculate on rather than worry over..

The UN??? Sorry, they have a different agenda than what our Country stands for, freedom and our Constitution rule..We are not collectively, anyway, looking for the One World Order or anything close to it...


In the past 540 million years, the Earth has endured five mass extinction events, each involving processes that upended the normal cycling of carbon through the atmosphere and oceans... These globally fatal perturbations in carbon each unfolded over thousands to millions of years, and are coincident with the widespread extermination of marine species around the world...

The question for many scientists is whether the carbon cycle is now experiencing a significant jolt that could tip the planet toward a sixth mass extinction...If cycles are true in when our Earth does something eventually it will change again... In the modern era, carbon dioxide emissions have risen steadily since the 19th century...

Taking this reasoning forward in time, Rothman predicts that, given the recent rise in carbon dioxide emissions over a relatively short timescale, a sixth extinction will depend on whether a critical amount of carbon is added to the oceans. That amount, he calculates, is about 310 gigatons, which he estimates to be roughly equivalent to the amount of carbon that human activities will have added to the world’s oceans by the year 2100.

Does this mean that mass extinction will soon follow at the turn of the century? Rothman says it would take some time — about 10,000 years — for such ecological disasters to play out. However, he says that by 2100 the world may have tipped into “unknown territory.”

https://dailygalaxy.com/2018/10/2100-beyond-the-un-climate-change-report-mit-predicts-earths-point-of-no-return/

Morgan

You can't compare earth cycles since the industrial age. That broke the mold. I believe in 98% of the scientist and researchers that's their job. It serves no purpose for us to debate this any longer. All one has to do is look at the intention, look at the collateral facts, we all know what needs to be done, the people who are blocking the needed changes are only doing so for their self-interest and profit. People have to get out of the way of the people trying to prevent an upscale of global warming and destruction as we've been recently seeing NOW and the prior years and let us get a grip on the escalating damages as we did with the ozone.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Are you seriously trying to tell us that a slight increase in atmospheric CO2 is the cause of wild fires, floods, mudslides, dust storms, earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, cyclones, and other natural disasters? Like these disasters were non-existent before the industrial revolution? Who are you really trying to blame for them?

Violent natural disasters have been a fact of human life since the beginning of the species, but the death counts of the most ancient of these disasters are lost to history. The Mediterranean island of Stroggli, for example, is believed to have been completely wiped out by a volcanic eruption and ensuing tsunami that eradicated the entire Minoan civilization around 1500 B.C. How many lives were lost? We'll never know.

On Oct. 11, 1138, the ground under the Syrian city began to shake. The city sits on the confluence of the Arabian and African plates, making it prone to temblors, but this one was particularly nasty. The magnitude of the quake is lost to time, but contemporary chroniclers reported that the city's citadel collapsed and houses crumbled across Aleppo. The death toll of this quake is typically put at about 230,000, but that estimate comes from the 15th century, and the historian may have been conflating the Aleppo quake with another one in Georgia, according to a 2004 paper in the Annals of Geophysics.

As with all historical quakes, precise death tolls for the Antioch earthquake of A.D. 526 are hard to come by. But contemporary chronicler John Malalas wrote at the time that about 250,000 people died when the temblor hit the Byzantine city in May of that year. Malalas attributed the disaster to the wrath of God and reported that fires destroyed everything in Antioch that the earthquake itself did not.

According to a 2007 paper in The Medieval History Journal, the death toll was higher than it would have been at other times of the year because the city was full of tourists celebrating Ascension Day.

The Coringa cyclone of 1839 hit the port city of Coringa on Nov. 25, whipping up a storm surge of 40 feet (12 meters), according to the NOAA Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory Hurricane Research Division. About 20,000 ships and vessels were destroyed, along with the lives of an estimated 300,000 people.

Also vying for the No. 5 spot on the list by death toll is an 1881 typhoon that hit Haiphong, Vietnam, on Oct. 8. That storm is also estimated to have killed about 300,000 people.

The deadliest earthquake in history hit China's Shaanxi province on Jan. 23, 1556. Known as the Jiajing Great Earthquake after the emperor whose reign it occurred in, the temblor reduced a 621-square-mile (1,000 square kilometers) swath of the country to rubble, according to the Science Museums of China. An estimated 830,000 people died as their homes collapsed and fires raged after the quake. The exact magnitude of the quake is lost to history, but modern-day geophysicists estimate it at around magnitude 8.


Have you given any thought to all of the things we use daily that come from petroleum?

Although the major use of petroleum is as a fuel, (gasoline, jet fuel, heating oil), and petroleum and natural gas are often used to generate electricity, there are many other uses.

One 42-gallon barrel of oil creates 19.4 gallons of gasoline. The rest (over half) is used to make many other and quite useful things

All plastic is made from petroleum and plastic is used almost everywhere: in cars, houses, toys, computers and clothing. Asphalt used in road construction is a petroleum product as is the synthetic rubber in the tires. Paraffin wax comes from petroleum, as do fertilizer, pesticides, herbicides, detergents, phonograph records, photographic film, furniture, packaging materials, surfboards, paints, and artificial fibers used in clothing, upholstery, and carpet backing. Solvents, Diesel Motor Oil, Bearing Grease, Ink,Floor Wax, Ballpoint Pens, Football Cleats, Upholstery, Sweaters, Boats, Insecticides, Tires, Sports Car Bodies, Nail Polish, Fishing lures, Dresses, Golf Bags, Perfumes, Cassettes, Dishwashers, Tool Boxes, Shoe Polish, Motorcycle Helmet, Caulking, Petroleum Jelly, Transparent Tape, CD Player, Faucet Washers, Antiseptics, Clotheslines, Curtains, Food Preservatives, Basketballs, Soap, Vitamin Capsules, Antihistamines, Purses, Shoes, Dashboards, Cortisone, Deodorant, Footballs, Putty, Dyes, Panty Hose, Refrigerant, Percolators, Life Jackets, Rubbing Alcohol, Linings, Skis, TV Cabinets, Shag Rug,s Electrician's Tape, Tool Racks, Car Battery Cases, Epoxy, Paint, Mops, Slacks, Insect Repellent, Oil Filters, Umbrellas, Yarn, Fertilizers, Hair Coloring, Roofing, Toilet Seats, Fishing Rods, Lipstick, Denture Adhesive, Linoleum, Ice Cube Trays, Synthetic Rubber, Speakers, Plastic Wood, Electric Blankets, Glycerin, Tennis Rackets, Rubber Cement, Fishing Boots, Dice, Nylon Rope, Candles, Trash Bags, House Paint, Water Pipes, Hand Lotion, Roller Skates, Surf Boards, Shampoo, Wheels, Paint Rollers, Shower Curtains, Guitar Strings, Luggage, Aspirin, Safety Glasses, Antifreeze, Football Helmets, Awnings, Eyeglasses, Clothes, Toothbrushes, Ice Chests, Footballs, Combs, CD's, Paint Brushes, Detergents, Vaporizers, Balloons, Sun Glasses, Tents, Heart Valves, Crayons, Parachutes, Telephones, Enamel, Pillows, Dishes, Cameras, Anesthetics, Artificial Turf, Artificial limbs, Bandages, Dentures, Model Cars, Folding Doors, Hair Curlers, Cold cream, Movie film, Soft Contact lenses, Drinking Cups, Fan Belts, Car Enamel, Shaving Cream, Ammonia, Refrigerators, Golf Balls, Toothpaste, Gasoline, Ink, Dishwashing liquids, Paint brushes, Telephones, Toys, Unbreakable dishes, Insecticides, Antiseptics, Dolls, Car sound insulation, Fishing lures, Deodorant, Motorcycle helmets,Linoleum, Sweaters, Tents, Refrigerator linings, Paint rollers, Floor wax, Shoes, Electrician's tape, Model cars, Glue ,Roller-skate wheels, Trash bags, Soap dishes, Skis, Permanent press clothes, Hand lotion, Disposable diapers, Salad bowls, Purses, Electric blankets Awnings, Credit cards, Fertilizers, Garden hose, Sun glasses Putty Faucet, Antihistamines, Hair coloring, Nail polish, False teeth, Perfume, Luggage, Wire insulation, Folding doors, Shoe polish, Fan belts, Ballpoint pens, Cortisone, Carpeting, Artificial turf, Heart valves, LP records, Artificial limbs, Hearing aids, Vaporizers, Aspirin, Shaving cream, Wading pools, and more.

Americans consume petroleum products at a rate of three-and-a-half gallons of oil and more than 250 cubic feet of natural gas per day each!

EmilyD

Yup. Apparently the only way to help mother earth is to get up every day, go naked (or wear clothes made out of leaves), walk or bicycle everywhere (to work, visit family and friends, etc.) grow your own food, milk your own cows (although cow farts are suspect with regard to clean air), make your own bread and goodness if you get sick, you're toast, because going to a doctor is not possible (you go to them now, they don't come to you). If you even buy a pair of shoes, you're contributing. Or if you need glasses to see, or want to read a book - you're contributing. You might as well just lie down and fade away. You will be doing the planet a favor.
<sarc, of course....

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Why can’t I?? If scientist look to the universe to define certain actions that took place by looking at what Earth’s climate cycle was like in previous era’s of high CO2 levels that is what they are measuring, right?? They go back millions of years, again if you confidently believe the data and evidence claimed.... Scientists are constantly changing their theories as new data becomes availablle...Why would that industrial age be so horrific in comparison to what the planets do that impact the gases of the Earth etc??

Is it not true that Carbon dioxide has been present in the atmosphere since the Earth condensed from a ball of hot gases following its formation?? Assuming you believe that theory..

I do not believe in the claimed 97% of scientist conclusions .. That has been debunked ad nauseum ..

Climate change is going to take place that’s a given and we certainly should do all we can to keep her land, water and air as clean as we can..But we can not change what the Earth has done and will continue to do.. Ice and heat moves her, bring in the ice ages and warming, all a part of the natural voluntary cycle..

You know what is worse damage to our Earth?? The back lash of nucleur leaks all over our Earth, Chernobyl, Fukushima, with no way to change or contain that damage.. True measurable loss in radiation levels to people, land, waters.. They happen, hit the papers then get covered up.. Heck, Fukushima caused the Radiation to leak into and contaminate the entire pacific ocean..it affects Earth's rotation, its figure axis and length of days..It kills in shorter time periods of all things and we do nothing to correct it.. Can we even contain it?? Why aren’t we studying how to correct that instead???

Then we have these high measuring earthquakes, what is spewed in all that ash, lava etc?? Earth's rotation changes all the time as a result of not only earthquakes, but also the much larger effects of changes in atmospheric winds and oceanic currents, think El Nino and El Nina..

So many things that go on through Mother Nature herself..

Morgan

The majority of environmental scientists around the world have not changed their viewpoint at all in the past thirty years or more that humans are impacting the global climate and seriously affecting our increased temperatures, this has not wavered. It is also from the beginning of ussing fossil fules from coal trains to present day and tomorrow.

Morgan

I see, so you really don't know what waste is

Morgan

No one said not to produce these things, it's about the waste and being responsible for what you as the manufacturer produce, this is where innovation, creativity is created. What can we do with the waste, you do know where Rockafella found the good use for gasoline?

EmilyD

And you don't see what waste of government grant monies are towards this hoax. Do you LIKE paying for all this nonsense? Because you are. That's what grant money is - YOUR taxes. Researchers skew their "findings" so they can continue to get their grants. If you were a grant researcher, you would know what lengths they go to to get that grant $$. Believe me, I know...I worked in Medical research for years....clamoring for grant money was like a shark tank with a naked human covered in blood.

EmilyD

They haven't changed their views in 30 years? Humans have been impacting the global climate and seriously affecting our increased temperatures for way more than 30 years?

Morgan

Of course, they do, they all do, that's how they get financed, their research is there to produce their findings, not to go around and make shit up, you're believing the hype from the right. The people whose intention is to stay unregulated, to produce as cheaply as possible and with as much profit as possible, that is the nature of the beast, it's not to have a conscience, capitalism is never to have a conscience, which is why they need to be leashed(regulated). To go unbridled they will run rampant over everything and everyone.

Morgan

I see, then you're acknowledging that fact that we make an impact, that's great, now just multiply that a million times since fossil fuels.

Morgan

Yes this may be true to your last comment, we have the largest carbon footprint per person, all the more reason to make these changes and change our habits. Why be so fixed. Running out of whale oil forced us to change, it's time for a change again.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

I didn't know that we ran out of whales. When did that happen?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I remember when the Sahara desert was a garden of greenery. It was beautiful . . . about 5000 years ago. Back then it was the Egyptian Protection Agency! LOL! Why didn't they stop all the CO2 emissions, for cry'in out loud??!!