Artemis

According to your beliefs all the good people you may sit among in church(if you go to church) are all republicans, is that an correct assumption, because all democrats are immoral,unreligious sleeze balls, is that the general consensus?

There are constant political indiscretions on both sides of the floor. I don't agree with you on republicans not standing by their man. From where I sit as soon as someone hurts their party enough, where people lose votes, they're cut lose.

What I have contention with is lumping about a hundred million people in one immoral status, due to the poor stature of a representative. We also are disappointed, as you may be when it happens to you, and it is simply untrue.

Your fellow Americans are not the enemy of our demise.

grace scott

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I will go along with that.

Artemis

That works for me :thumbup:

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

That would be based on the premise that there is a difference. Point of fact; there isn't. They try hard to create the ILLUSION of a difference, so as to get votes away from the other guy. In practice, they're all the same. Spending YOUR money, while having all THEIR expenses paid for. Telling you how to live YOUR life, while doing whatever the hell they please, to whoever they please. Telling you that Gov. shouldn't be paying for your health care, while THEIRS is paid for by YOUR tax money.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

The wider one's knowledge becomes the more one realizes their ignorance. It is only the ignorant who can be positive, only the ignorant who can become fanatics, for the more one learns the more they become aware that there are shadings and relationships in all things.

beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W

Let the dog out. Lock the door. Don't answer the knock. Turn sprinkler system on as they leave.

rumitoid

Agreed. Nuance: a word and practice forgotten. But there is more, for nuance can work by bent. Although there is no perfect way to challenge ourselves as to what we think in an attempt to find unadulterated truth, a religious practice of playing Devil's advocate to everything--seemingly settled, in stone, or generally accepted--is mandate of consciousness. This is what guarantees our liberties. This is what makes us humane, not just human animals. Bestiality accounts for anything less.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

There is also "assumption". An assumption is necessary to begin any train of thought, however, an assumption must be challenged and evidence, for or against, gathered to determine it's veracity. At which time, it will either be accepted as fact, or a new assumption made, starting the process again. Making an assumption and stopping there, are how fools are made.

Politicians thrive on the belief that people will accept all assumptions at face value and fail to complete the process. The evidence is overwhelmingly in their favor. There are, perhaps, 10,000 people involved in the molding of assumptions in this country. There are many tools used, one of which is "the polls". Using a poll as an attempt to foment an assumption in the minds of the target audience. No evidence that a poll was actually taken required. At voting time, whoever is ahead in the latest poll, will receive more votes. Why? because the masses assume that the front runner will win and want to back a winner. My question would be, how much does it cost to have a poll showing that you're the front runner?

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Well put.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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"According to your beliefs all the good people you may sit among in church(if you go to church) are all republicans, is that an correct assumption, because all democrats are immoral,unreligious sleeze balls, is that the general consensus? " No, not all people who sit in church are good people. And not all in church are republicans. And not all democrats are imoral, unreligious sleeze balls. But all progressives ARE immoral, unreligious sleeze balls - or at least that's the image they project as though they are proud of it. Real democrats, NOT progressives, can be every bit as good as anyone else. I've known some honorable ones. I've never known an honorable progressive. There are very few true democrats in the Democrat Party, and those who are still in the party are being morphed into progs because the Democrat party has without question caved into progressivism which everyone knows is the code word for all of the CONTROLLING isms.

Let me tell you the difference that MAKES a difference in how we view each other. Conservatives do not like politicians who say one thing to get a vote, then change. And they will vote them out next time if at all possible. Conservatives don't want sleazy politicians, but sleaze has a way of creeping in once they land in DC and national politics. Conservatives do not want to be represented by sleaze because conservatives are not sleazy. OTOH, progs will defend the indefensible no matter what his politician does, even if he is doing something that will harm his constituents. Yet, when a republican politician stumbles, the progs do everything in their power to destroy the person, and the conservative wants him out of office because he isn't representing them when he does some dumbass thing like troll the men's toilets looking for a sexual encounter, or if they use interns for quickie blow jobs in the office.

If voters on the left would police their politicians like the conservatives do, there would be no need for much animosity. But that will never happen. Progs don't have it in their brains to go for character rather than character assassination.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

There is something about that, that I like.

It is the choice of words in the middle part that I don't quite get. "It is only the ignorant who can be positive, only the ignorant who can become fanatics"

I can see there is something to that but if it was left out it would still be a fitting statement.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

I LIKE it!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Yeah, but I can see the relevance. A fanatic focuses on the one thing that strikes their fancy ( or fantasy ) and runs with it, without regard for any collateral reasoning. That's why a fanatic is so dangerous, they can't be reasoned with, as they have no faculty for it.

Likewise a person who believes everything they hear, will be devastated when proof is presented of the fallacy of the thing they thought true. When the word " thoughtless" is used, we're usually talking about an action that did not consider others, but it can also be applied to anyone that accepts rhetoric at face value. The harm may only be to themselves, but it is still preventable, with a little thought.

When you elect someone you thought was an " upright man" and undeniable evidence is presented to the contrary, you have two choices. One is to admit that you were wrong, that you were "hoodwinked". The other is to minimize and excuse the "bad behavior", thus preserving your fantasy of the "upright man". So who is more ignorant? The one who got taken in, but admitted it? Or the one who strives to continue being taken in?

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

I'll bet they would, they would notice the improvement