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Apr 13, 2014 19:56:34   #
Liberty Tree
 
emarine wrote:
He has put together a half dozen plans to date, they all work for the wealthy,


Same old Democrat mantra. Can't you come up with something new? I guess your next post will be about pushing old ladies over a cliff and starving children. You all are so predictable.

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Apr 13, 2014 20:08:36   #
emarine
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Same old Democrat mantra. Can't you come up with something new? I guess your next post will be about pushing old ladies over a cliff and starving children. You all are so predictable.


In reference to Ryan's plans... "predictable" is the right choice of word.... you can only rearrange the same plan around so many times before it gets old. I guess Charles Koch will have to write a new plan for Ryan next go around.

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Apr 13, 2014 20:23:54   #
Liberty Tree
 
emarine wrote:
In reference to Ryan's plans... "predictable" is the right choice of word.... you can only rearrange the same plan around so many times before it gets old. I guess Charles Koch will have to write a new plan for Ryan next go around.


So now the Dems will try to make the Koch brothers the big demons for everyone to fear. They certainly do not want the focus on Obama. Just another diversionary tactic to avoid the truth.

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Apr 13, 2014 20:26:27   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Weasel wrote:
Every time a good Budget Plan comes along it's always the PORK that drags it down! Lets try a Sterile Plan for once and let the people share in the profits.
Try again Ryan, I know you can get it right.


Washington needs to start with THEMSELVES. If they can clean themselves up it would be a demonstration that they are serious. Then they need to tackle the budget problems a little bit at a time. It took years to get into this mess and it will take years to get out of it. Every sweeping legislative change ends up hurting the little guy the most. The ACA, for instance. The more you load into a thing, the harder it is to tell what works and what doesn't and the greater the adverse effect.

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Apr 13, 2014 20:35:42   #
emarine
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
So now the Dems will try to make the Koch brothers the big demons for everyone to fear. They certainly do not want the focus on Obama. Just another diversionary tactic to avoid the truth.


Maybe... But Koch, Ryan and Cantor spent a lot of time behind closed doors... They could be just shooting pool?

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Apr 13, 2014 22:02:21   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Well it that be the case you say no to a budget and the democrats have no budget so are you saying we're good with no budget?



grace scott wrote:
Why do you accuse me of lying? I do not support Ryan's budget. When I said "no", that was the truth.

There are times when I am misinformed, but I never intentionally lie. I found out a long time ago, life was much easier if you told the truth. That way you do not have to remember what you said. You told the truth. Nothing to remember.

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Apr 13, 2014 22:58:11   #
3jack
 
jjb2012 wrote:
Please restrict your answers to

I support the Ryan Budget
or
I do not support the Ryan budget

Feel Free to C&P


Hell no I do not support Ryan's budget. He has a proposal in his budget to reduce retired military pensions. All of us military retirees should be insulted by this portion of the proposed budget.

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Apr 13, 2014 23:10:11   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
BigMike wrote:
Washington needs to start with THEMSELVES. If they can clean themselves up it would be a demonstration that they are serious. Then they need to tackle the budget problems a little bit at a time. It took years to get into this mess and it will take years to get out of it. Every sweeping legislative change ends up hurting the little guy the most. The ACA, for instance. The more you load into a thing, the harder it is to tell what works and what doesn't and the greater the adverse effect.


I wasn't going to comment ..but I can't help myself...ANYONE who thinks that Any politician, now or in the future is ever going to do anything about the debt is kidding themselves.....AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT IS FINISHED....Ask yourself this question...HOW DID THE ELECTED POLITICIANS LET THE DEBT GET OUT OF HAND IN THE FIRST PLACE....? Answer...Greed, self serving ideals, and corruption...And nothing will ever change any of those factors as long as the structure of our Elected representatives TERMS..PAY...And LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY is allow to continue...Does anyone really believe that they will discipline themselves? How many different committees are investigating different things now...nothing will be done about any of it...its all for show...And then on top of all our problems...The country elects a PRESIDENT who has NO experience at anything...PERIOD.....My advice to anyone who cares to listen is...Get Ready for the collapse of America...Be honest with yourself and pay attention...NOTHING IS GETTING BETTER...The economy sucks, Decent jobs are few and far between...The family structure is collapsing...Our schools are a cesspool of misinformation , no respect and drugs. The small towns in America are being phased out of existence...Drugs and debauchery are widespread. And last but not least...14 million illegal ingredients are gonna be allowed to stay in this country, and then treated better than our own citizens who were born here...The facts are there to see if...You will only open your eyes and see them....The only thing positive I can see is..It might take a few more years to happen, and I probably won't be around..But im getting ready just in case..and I suggest you do the same...I am not a pessimist or an optimist ...I am a realist...SHIT stinks now matter what perfume you put on it...And our Goverment STINKS...Good nite all....

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Apr 13, 2014 23:17:37   #
rumitoid
 
angery american wrote:
I wasn't going to comment ..but I can't help myself...ANYONE who thinks that Any politician, now or in the future is ever going to do anything about the debt is kidding themselves.....AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT IS FINISHED....Ask yourself this question...HOW DID THE ELECTED POLITICIANS LET THE DEBT GET OUT OF HAND IN THE FIRST PLACE....? Answer...Greed, self serving ideals, and corruption...And nothing will ever change any of those factors as long as the structure of our Elected representatives TERMS..PAY...And LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY is allow to continue...Does anyone really believe that they will discipline themselves? How many different committees are investigating different things now...nothing will be done about any of it...its all for show...And then on top of all our problems...The country elects a PRESIDENT who has NO experience at anything...PERIOD.....My advice to anyone who cares to listen is...Get Ready for the collapse of America...Be honest with yourself and pay attention...NOTHING IS GETTING BETTER...The economy sucks, Decent jobs are few and far between...The family structure is collapsing...Our schools are a cesspool of misinformation , no respect and drugs. The small towns in America are being phased out of existence...Drugs and debauchery are widespread. And last but not least...14 million illegal ingredients are gonna be allowed to stay in this country, and then treated better than our own citizens who were born here...The facts are there to see if...You will only open your eyes and see them....The only thing positive I can see is..It might take a few more years to happen, and I probably won't be around..But im getting ready just in case..and I suggest you do the same...I am not a pessimist or an optimist ...I am a realist...SHIT stinks now matter what perfume you put on it...And our Goverment STINKS...Good nite all....
I wasn't going to comment ..but I can't help mysel... (show quote)


Just curious: what does "angery" mean?

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Apr 13, 2014 23:56:49   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
Just curious: what does "angery" mean?


I will answer your question because YOU ASKED instead of criticizing my spelling...Before I ever posted on the site, I read other post for quite a while...And I could see some folks thought they were better than others...SO I misspelled {angry}..Just to see who would make a remark or lecture me on spelling...Same with America with a small a....It worked..I was correct many times, and ridiculed for misspelling...And on 1 occasion was called UN-American for not using a capitol A...I found out who the smart asses were rather quickly...It was a fishing trip...And it worked... :lol:

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Apr 14, 2014 00:15:30   #
rumitoid
 
angery american wrote:
I will answer your question because YOU ASKED instead of criticizing my spelling...Before I ever posted on the site, I read other post for quite a while...And I could see some folks thought they were better than others...SO I misspelled {angry}..Just to see who would make a remark or lecture me on spelling...Same with America with a small a....It worked..I was correct many times, and ridiculed for misspelling...And on 1 occasion was called UN-American for not using a capitol A...I found out who the smart asses were rather quickly...It was a fishing trip...And it worked... :lol:
I will answer your question because YOU ASKED inst... (show quote)


Clever. Thank you for a civil answer, and I have done similar things (though not always liking myself when I did, especially when proven abundantly correct). Seeing the name and then reading your post (and others), a misspelling of "angry" did not seem possible. Of course, it is always possible for a person to find this site one night when plastered and make a mistake, yet again from your posts I did not see this as the case.

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Apr 14, 2014 00:27:39   #
Brian Devon
 
[quote=angery american] .....Drugs and debauchery are widespread. And last but not least...14 million illegal ingredients are gonna be allowed to stay in this country...






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Interesting choice of words. Debauchery??? There's a word you don't hear every day. Does that refer to anyone who scandalously does it in a non-missionary position???

14 million illegal ingredients are going to be allowed to stay??? Does that mean that Coca-Cola will be putting cocaine back in its beverages???

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Apr 14, 2014 00:47:53   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
[quote=Brian Devon]
angery american wrote:
.....Drugs and debauchery are widespread. And last but not least...14 million illegal ingredients are gonna be allowed to stay in this country...






******
Interesting choice of words. Debauchery??? There's a word you don't hear every day. Does that refer to anyone who scandalously does it in a non-missionary position???

14 million illegal ingredients are going to be allowed to stay??? Does that mean that Coca-Cola will be putting cocaine back in its beverages???
.....Drugs and debauchery are widespread. And la... (show quote)
...Naaaaaaaa all the cocaine will be used by the illegal aliens...While performing their many acts of Debauchery....You got my point ...even if it was misspelled....I would have thought you would have more to comment on, other than a misspelled word...I'm sure you don't agree with much that I said....It doesn't matter whether I am right or wrong, its just my opinion...

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Apr 14, 2014 09:13:07   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
jjb2012 wrote:
Please restrict your answers to

I support the Ryan Budget
or
I do not support the Ryan budget

Feel Free to C&P


I don't think even Ryan was serious with his budget. It's just another ploy to shore up his base. He knew darn well that a budget that requires defunding Obamacare and casting seniors unto the insurance industry wolves by voucherizing Medicare was not going to fly. It's all stagecraft.

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Apr 15, 2014 00:14:11   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
angery american wrote:
I wasn't going to comment ..but I can't help myself...ANYONE who thinks that Any politician, now or in the future is ever going to do anything about the debt is kidding themselves.....AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT IS FINISHED....Ask yourself this question...HOW DID THE ELECTED POLITICIANS LET THE DEBT GET OUT OF HAND IN THE FIRST PLACE....? Answer...Greed, self serving ideals, and corruption...And nothing will ever change any of those factors as long as the structure of our Elected representatives TERMS..PAY...And LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY is allow to continue...Does anyone really believe that they will discipline themselves? How many different committees are investigating different things now...nothing will be done about any of it...its all for show...And then on top of all our problems...The country elects a PRESIDENT who has NO experience at anything...PERIOD.....My advice to anyone who cares to listen is...Get Ready for the collapse of America...Be honest with yourself and pay attention...NOTHING IS GETTING BETTER...The economy sucks, Decent jobs are few and far between...The family structure is collapsing...Our schools are a cesspool of misinformation , no respect and drugs. The small towns in America are being phased out of existence...Drugs and debauchery are widespread. And last but not least...14 million illegal ingredients are gonna be allowed to stay in this country, and then treated better than our own citizens who were born here...The facts are there to see if...You will only open your eyes and see them....The only thing positive I can see is..It might take a few more years to happen, and I probably won't be around..But im getting ready just in case..and I suggest you do the same...I am not a pessimist or an optimist ...I am a realist...SHIT stinks now matter what perfume you put on it...And our Goverment STINKS...Good nite all....
I wasn't going to comment ..but I can't help mysel... (show quote)


I don't believe are capable nor would they if they could. The world economy, nevermind the US, is built on debt and IOUs. A house of cards waiting for an excuse to tumble, and it would take much less than a lot of people think. Massive deflation, taking back currency creation power from the Fed and a return to the gold standard is the only way to change the direction we are headed. No one in Washington will allow that to happen until circumstances make it impossible to avoid. When (NOT if) it does we're all in for a world of hurt. Ryan knows this. He also knows there's no way in hell his budget will pass. He's just playing to the conservative base in the hopes they'll vote for Progressive/Establishment Republicans again in the next election.

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