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Apr 12, 2014 13:26:47   #
jjb2012
 
Please restrict your answers to

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I do not support the Ryan budget

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Apr 12, 2014 13:31:47   #
Comment Loc: California
 
jjb2012 wrote:
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Apr 12, 2014 14:34:21   #
brian george
 
jjb2012 wrote:
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Apr 12, 2014 14:34:28   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
jjb2012 wrote:
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Not only no but hell no.

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Apr 12, 2014 14:34:42   #
brian george
 
support

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Apr 12, 2014 15:16:56   #
stargazer711
 
I have not read it in detail, but I know that Ryan is a very bright guy who shares the same fears many of us do of the eventual meltdown if we don't quit pulling out the China charge card every time some dimocrap comes up with a new scheme to buy votes. That famous quote from Botox Nancy Pelousy that the budget has been cut to the bone, and no more cuts are possible, just shows how delusional they really are.

That said, it may require some tweaking of details, but it is the best chance we have for avoiding the oncoming financial apocalypse.

Support!

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Apr 12, 2014 15:24:28   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
stargazer711 wrote:
I have not read it in detail, but I know that Ryan is a very bright guy who shares the same fears many of us do of the eventual meltdown if we don't quit pulling out the China charge card every time some dimocrap comes up with a new scheme to buy votes. That famous quote from Botox Nancy Pelousy that the budget has been cut to the bone, and no more cuts are possible, just shows how delusional they really are.

That said, it may require some tweaking of details, but it is the best chance we have for avoiding the oncoming financial apocalypse.

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I have not read it in detail, but I know that Ryan... (show quote)


Pelosi is so delusional she openly says there's nothing she would change with the ACA. Cheese and rice woman your own man in the WH has changed it a dozen times. Wake the "F" up people !!!

:thumbup: for me

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Apr 12, 2014 15:31:27   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
jjb2012 wrote:
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I do not support the Ryan Budget. More tax breaks for the rich and more taxes and loss of benefits for the working people.

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Apr 12, 2014 15:46:15   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
She Wolf wrote:
I do not support the Ryan Budget. More tax breaks for the rich and more taxes and loss of benefits for the working people.


Here is the question for the liberals. Do we have the will power to stop raiding social security and Medicare, two very important programs to the fastest growing demographic in the country. Does the Ryan plan address these programs in positive meaningful ways.

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Apr 12, 2014 15:55:34   #
grace scott
 
jjb2012 wrote:
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NO!

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Apr 12, 2014 16:17:31   #
jjb2012
 
stargazer711 wrote:
I have not read it in detail, but I know that Ryan is a very bright guy who shares the same fears many of us do of the eventual meltdown if we don't quit pulling out the China charge card every time some dimocrap comes up with a new scheme to buy votes. That famous quote from Botox Nancy Pelousy that the budget has been cut to the bone, and no more cuts are possible, just shows how delusional they really are.

That said, it may require some tweaking of details, but it is the best chance we have for avoiding the oncoming financial apocalypse.

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I have not read it in detail, but I know that Ryan... (show quote)


Republicans have been telling the same fairy tails since I started working in the 70's. IF politicians would stop using SS as their own personal budget balancing tool it would be fully funded today.
And here is what they do when in control all verifiable FACTS
If you are fiscally conservative Reagan , Bush 1 , and Bush 2 were all worse then Obama's. He may have passed major spending but if you believe MOST economists our economy would not have survived without the bailouts.

Just so you understand what all 3 did with republican help.
Reagan and Bush senior got almost exactly the budgets they requested in each of their 12 budget years.
Reagan:
The first budget — passed by all Republicans and a few conservative Southern Democrats.
This increased the debt by $144 Billion.
The next 5 budgets — passed by the Republican Senate and signed by Reagan.
The last 2 budgets — passed by a Democratic Congress
Totalled slightly less than Reagan requested.
G. H. W. Bush:
Democratic Congresses under Bush passed smaller budgets than he requested in 3 out of 4 years.
These four Democratic budgets totalled $14.6 Billion less than Bush requested.
G. W. Bush:
The first two budgets — Senate was split 50/50 and the House was Democratic.
Bipartisan and totalled $20 Billion less than Bush requested.
The biggest cause of deficits was Bush's enormous tax cut, mainly for the rich.
The next 4 budgets — the Congress was solid Republican.
The last 2 budgets — Bush vetoed modest Democratic attempts at spending.
In summary: Democrats controlled Congress during 8 out the 20 years. During 4 of those years, Democrats decreased the budgets proposed by the Republican presidents. Their total effect during those 8 years was to reduce Republican budgets by $17 Billion (which is only 0.2%).

And all 3 cut taxes so the result was less income into the treasury while they were spending.

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Apr 12, 2014 16:34:11   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
Here is the question for the liberals. Do we have the will power to stop raiding social security and Medicare, two very important programs to the fastest growing demographic in the country. Does the Ryan plan address these programs in positive meaningful ways.


I stand by my former answer. not only no but hell no.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-marans/ryan-budget-fasttracks-so_b_845775.html

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Apr 12, 2014 16:43:18   #
jjb2012
 
Constitutional libertarian wrote:
Here is the question for the liberals. Do we have the will power to stop raiding social security and Medicare, two very important programs to the fastest growing demographic in the country. Does the Ryan plan address these programs in positive meaningful ways.


There are very simple fixes.

First why do all the wealthy people pay less SS today then I did in 1976??

Income subject to SS was capped at 76,000.

Just adjust that number for inflation and it SHOULD BE 211,000 today.

So for the last 38 years each year we have paid less into the system then our parents did indexed to inflation. WHY

Why have the tax rates been consistently lowered favoring the wealthy since 1980 while increasing deficits??

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Apr 12, 2014 16:47:38   #
jasfourth401
 
jjb2012 wrote:
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I do not support the Ryan budget.

I do not support the Ryan budget for one simple reason.

The reason is that it is fantasy to think anyone over 65 can use 8 thousand in vouchers to "pay for" their "free market health insurance" since medicare goes away. There's a reason why medicare was created. It was because free market insurance wouldn't cover seniors...at any cost.

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Apr 12, 2014 17:41:16   #
Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City
 
jasfourth401 wrote:
I do not support the Ryan budget.

I do not support the Ryan budget for one simple reason.

The reason is that it is fantasy to think anyone over 65 can use 8 thousand in vouchers to "pay for" their "free market health insurance" since medicare goes away. There's a reason why medicare was created. It was because free market insurance wouldn't cover seniors...at any cost.



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