How Many here support the Ryan Budget?? (Page 2): Interesting. I did not know that fairy's had tails.

dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

Interesting. I did not know that fairy's had tails.

Comment Loc: California

jjb2012 wrote:

Republicans have been telling the same fairy tails... (show quote)

You don't know that the budgets were higher because of the tax cuts. The economy was at 3% unemployment, not 25% under Obama until the last year of Bush's presidency when the housing policies installed by the democrats hit the fracking crap fan. Dumb people will blame Bush for the bust but it was the democrats that nearly bankrupted the country. Further more the US used to borrow for the future but, Now it borrows from the future for the now.

John Galt Loc: Galt's Gulch

No.

It allows growth of government and debt.

Comment Loc: California

grace scott wrote:

NO!

You people are so biased that you can't tell the friggin truth. With holding information that does not reflect well on the democrats when you know that you Are deliberately giving a one sided view. It reflects upon your character. I have found that in every case a liar is a thief, bar none. The so called Ryan budget is telling only oner side of the story. He collaborated with a democrat, Janet Murray to reach a consensus on the budget. Tell me; why are you lying?

grace scott

Billhuggins wrote:

You people are so biased that you can't tell the friggin truth. With holding information that does not reflect well on the democrats when you know that you Are deliberately giving a one sided view. It reflects upon your character. I have found that in every case a liar is a thief, bar none. The so called Ryan budget is telling only oner side of the story. He collaborated with a democrat, Janet Murray to reach a consensus on the budget. Tell me; why are you lying?

Why do you accuse me of lying? I do not support Ryan's budget. When I said "no", that was the truth.

There are times when I am misinformed, but I never intentionally lie. I found out a long time ago, life was much easier if you told the truth. That way you do not have to remember what you said. You told the truth. Nothing to remember.

John Galt Loc: Galt's Gulch

grace scott wrote:

I found out a long time ago, life was much easier if you told the truth. That way you do not have to remember what you said. You told the truth. Nothing to remember.

Isn't that the truth?

Comment Loc: California

grace scott wrote:

Why do you accuse me of lying? I do not support Ryan's budget. When I said "no", that was the truth.

There are times when I am misinformed, but I never intentionally lie. I found out a long time ago, life was much easier if you told the truth. That way you do not have to remember what you said. You told the truth. Nothing to remember.

My mistake. I wasn't directing at you. I think I was directing to one you responded to.

jjb2012

Billhuggins wrote:

You don't know that the budgets were higher because of the tax cuts. The economy was at 3% unemployment, not 25% under Obama until the last year of Bush's presidency when the housing policies installed by the democrats hit the fracking crap fan. Dumb people will blame Bush for the bust but it was the democrats that nearly bankrupted the country. Further more the US used to borrow for the future but, Now it borrows from the future for the now.

I simply stated that the reduction in treasury receipts , tax income to the treasury was lower because of the tax cuts then it would have been without the tax cuts. The CBO said the Bush tax cuts cost 4.5 trillion in lost revenue.

As for the Obama presidency what do you expect when he took office the economy was in recession. Have you already forgotten 2009 GDP growth was negative.

Please excuse the C&P but this is what was happening which no other president has dealt with since 1929

The worst recession in decades. Jobs and wealth are falling at a rapid pace, driving families more quickly into default, foreclosure, and bankruptcy. This crisis is precipitated by a sharp drop in consumer spending, as well as a decline in business investment and the fact that the United States continues to import more than it exports. The only sector of the economy that can turn the situation around is the federal government, but irresponsible management in the past has created large, looming deficits that will make it harder to design the necessary stimulus and economic recovery package.
1. GDP growth turns negative. The gross domestic product declined at an annual rate of 0.5 percent in the third quarter of 2008the largest decline since the third quarter of 2001. The drop in growth followed a 3.8% decline in consumer spendingthe largest decrease since the second quarter of 1980. Spending on homes also declined by 16.0% in the third quarter of 2008, marking the 11th quarterly decline in a row and the longest continuous decline in residential real estate spending since the 11th quarter period that ended in March 1958.
2. Job losses accelerate. The U.S. economy lost 2.6 million jobs in 2008, including 524,000 jobs in December. Fifty-nine percent of job losses came during the last quarter.
3. Unemployment rates reflect broad labor market recession. The unemployment rate was 7.2% in December 2008the highest level since January 1993. The African-American unemployment rate stood at 11.9%, the Hispanic unemployment rate at 9.2%, and the unemployment rate for whites at 6.6% in December 2008.
4. The job market recession is the most severe in decades. The labor market shrunk by 1.9% over the course of 2008the fastest decline during the 12 months after a recession started since the recession that started in May 1960. The unemployment rate rose 2.3% during the first 12 months of the recessionthe fastest such increase since the recession that started in January 1970.
5. Wages have temporarily outgrown inflation. Factoring in inflation, hourly wages were 2.3% and weekly wages were 3.3% higher in November 2008 than in December 2007. These increases followed lower prices in November 2008 and are unlikely to continue.
6. Benefits decreased before the crisis. The share of private sector workers with a pension dropped from 50.3% in 2000 to 45.1% in 2007, and the share of people with employer-provided health insurance dropped from 64.2% in 2000 to 59.3% in 2007.
7. Families are still burdened by high levels of debt. Household debt averaged 130.3% of disposable income in the third quarter of 2008, down from a record high of 133.5% at the end of 2007, but higher than any level recorded before September 2006.
8. The housing crisis deepens. New home sales in November 2008 were 35.3% lower and existing home sales were 10.6% lower than a year earlier. Median sale prices for new homes dropped by 11.5% and those for existing homes by 13.2% during the same time. It would take more than 11 months to sell all houses on the market at the current rate of new home sales. This has been true for four months in a row now, making this the worst new home sales market since the Census Bureau collected these data in 1963.
9. Homeowners lose wealth. The values of all homes fell by $656 billion in the third quarter of 2008 after accounting for inflation, and they were 13.6% or $2.4 trillion lower than a year earlier, making it the largest such drop since the Federal Reserve collected these data in 1952. Home equity as a share of home values also fell to a record low of 44.7% in the third quarter of 2008.
10. Mortgage troubles mount. One in 10 mortgages is delinquent or in foreclosure. The share of mortgages that were delinquent during the third quarter of 2008 was 7.0%, and the share of mortgages that were in foreclosure was 3.0%. The share of new mortgages going into foreclosure stayed at its record high of 1.1% in the third quarter.
11. Families feel the pressure. Credit card defaults rose to 5.6% of all credit card debt by the third quarter of 2008an increase of 35.4% from the fourth quarter of 2007.
12. Business investment declines. Business investment declined by 1.7% in the third quarter of 2008the largest decline since the first quarter of 2004. Business spending on equipment and software also dropped for the third quarter in a row, the longest such decline since the first quarter of 2002.
13. The trade deficit remains high. The trade deficit stood at 4.9% of GDP in the third quarter of 2008. Despite declining slightly, the trade deficit remains at a historically high and ultimately unsustainable level.
14. Large deficits are looming. Following years of fiscal and economic mismanagement, the federal governments deficit is expected to reach $1.2 trillion in 2009, even before a necessary economic stimulus has been enacted.

Brian Devon

Btfkr wrote:

Not only no but hell no.

***
Paul Ryan's budget is exactly what I would expect from a Republican. Comfort the comfortable (military contractors like Cheney and Halliburton); and afflict the afflicted (the poor, the elderly, and disabled). Ryan's heart sounds like it is very much like Cheney's, a hard black lump of coal...in short a neanderthal war pimp...disgusting...

rumitoid

jjb2012 wrote:

Please restrict your answers to

I support the Ryan Budget
or
I do not support the Ryan budget

Feel Free to C&P

rumitoid

Uunanimously the atheist and 90% of humanist.

kevhurls Loc: MASSACHUSETTS

Lemme hear an AAAAAAAAAAMEN! Say it again, brother! (no f.way, that is) Just read "war pimp" above. Close. Ryantard (and the rest of those r.tards) is more WAR WHORE.

Liberty Tree

jjb2012 wrote:

Please restrict your answers to

I support the Ryan Budget
or
I do not support the Ryan budget

Feel Free to C&P

I do not support it because it relys on future spending "cuts" that will never happen.

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

jjb2012 wrote:

I simply stated that the reduction in treasury receipts , tax income to the treasury was lower because of the tax cuts then it would have been without the tax cuts. The CBO said the Bush tax cuts cost 4.5 trillion in lost revenue.

As for the Obama presidency what do you expect when he took office the economy was in recession. Have you already forgotten 2009 GDP growth was negative.

Please excuse the C&P but this is what was happening which no other president has dealt with since 1929

The worst recession in decades. Jobs and wealth are falling at a rapid pace, driving families more quickly into default, foreclosure, and bankruptcy. This crisis is precipitated by a sharp drop in consumer spending, as well as a decline in business investment and the fact that the United States continues to import more than it exports. The only sector of the economy that can turn the situation around is the federal government, but irresponsible management in the past has created large, looming deficits that will make it harder to design the necessary stimulus and economic recovery package.
1. GDP growth turns negative. The gross domestic product declined at an annual rate of 0.5 percent in the third quarter of 2008the largest decline since the third quarter of 2001. The drop in growth followed a 3.8% decline in consumer spendingthe largest decrease since the second quarter of 1980. Spending on homes also declined by 16.0% in the third quarter of 2008, marking the 11th quarterly decline in a row and the longest continuous decline in residential real estate spending since the 11th quarter period that ended in March 1958.
2. Job losses accelerate. The U.S. economy lost 2.6 million jobs in 2008, including 524,000 jobs in December. Fifty-nine percent of job losses came during the last quarter.
3. Unemployment rates reflect broad labor market recession. The unemployment rate was 7.2% in December 2008the highest level since January 1993. The African-American unemployment rate stood at 11.9%, the Hispanic unemployment rate at 9.2%, and the unemployment rate for whites at 6.6% in December 2008.
4. The job market recession is the most severe in decades. The labor market shrunk by 1.9% over the course of 2008the fastest decline during the 12 months after a recession started since the recession that started in May 1960. The unemployment rate rose 2.3% during the first 12 months of the recessionthe fastest such increase since the recession that started in January 1970.
5. Wages have temporarily outgrown inflation. Factoring in inflation, hourly wages were 2.3% and weekly wages were 3.3% higher in November 2008 than in December 2007. These increases followed lower prices in November 2008 and are unlikely to continue.
6. Benefits decreased before the crisis. The share of private sector workers with a pension dropped from 50.3% in 2000 to 45.1% in 2007, and the share of people with employer-provided health insurance dropped from 64.2% in 2000 to 59.3% in 2007.
7. Families are still burdened by high levels of debt. Household debt averaged 130.3% of disposable income in the third quarter of 2008, down from a record high of 133.5% at the end of 2007, but higher than any level recorded before September 2006.
8. The housing crisis deepens. New home sales in November 2008 were 35.3% lower and existing home sales were 10.6% lower than a year earlier. Median sale prices for new homes dropped by 11.5% and those for existing homes by 13.2% during the same time. It would take more than 11 months to sell all houses on the market at the current rate of new home sales. This has been true for four months in a row now, making this the worst new home sales market since the Census Bureau collected these data in 1963.
9. Homeowners lose wealth. The values of all homes fell by $656 billion in the third quarter of 2008 after accounting for inflation, and they were 13.6% or $2.4 trillion lower than a year earlier, making it the largest such drop since the Federal Reserve collected these data in 1952. Home equity as a share of home values also fell to a record low of 44.7% in the third quarter of 2008.
10. Mortgage troubles mount. One in 10 mortgages is delinquent or in foreclosure. The share of mortgages that were delinquent during the third quarter of 2008 was 7.0%, and the share of mortgages that were in foreclosure was 3.0%. The share of new mortgages going into foreclosure stayed at its record high of 1.1% in the third quarter.
11. Families feel the pressure. Credit card defaults rose to 5.6% of all credit card debt by the third quarter of 2008an increase of 35.4% from the fourth quarter of 2007.
12. Business investment declines. Business investment declined by 1.7% in the third quarter of 2008the largest decline since the first quarter of 2004. Business spending on equipment and software also dropped for the third quarter in a row, the longest such decline since the first quarter of 2002.
13. The trade deficit remains high. The trade deficit stood at 4.9% of GDP in the third quarter of 2008. Despite declining slightly, the trade deficit remains at a historically high and ultimately unsustainable level.
14. Large deficits are looming. Following years of fiscal and economic mismanagement, the federal governments deficit is expected to reach $1.2 trillion in 2009, even before a necessary economic stimulus has been enacted.

I simply stated that the reduction in treasury rec... (show quote)

Confusing them with facts again. W et all were rats leaving a sinking ship.

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

jjb2012 wrote:

I simply stated that the reduction in treasury receipts , tax income to the treasury was lower because of the tax cuts then it would have been without the tax cuts. The CBO said the Bush tax cuts cost 4.5 trillion in lost revenue.

As for the Obama presidency what do you expect when he took office the economy was in recession. Have you already forgotten 2009 GDP growth was negative.

Please excuse the C&P but this is what was happening which no other president has dealt with since 1929

The worst recession in decades. Jobs and wealth are falling at a rapid pace, driving families more quickly into default, foreclosure, and bankruptcy. This crisis is precipitated by a sharp drop in consumer spending, as well as a decline in business investment and the fact that the United States continues to import more than it exports. The only sector of the economy that can turn the situation around is the federal government, but irresponsible management in the past has created large, looming deficits that will make it harder to design the necessary stimulus and economic recovery package.
1. GDP growth turns negative. The gross domestic product declined at an annual rate of 0.5 percent in the third quarter of 2008the largest decline since the third quarter of 2001. The drop in growth followed a 3.8% decline in consumer spendingthe largest decrease since the second quarter of 1980. Spending on homes also declined by 16.0% in the third quarter of 2008, marking the 11th quarterly decline in a row and the longest continuous decline in residential real estate spending since the 11th quarter period that ended in March 1958.
2. Job losses accelerate. The U.S. economy lost 2.6 million jobs in 2008, including 524,000 jobs in December. Fifty-nine percent of job losses came during the last quarter.
3. Unemployment rates reflect broad labor market recession. The unemployment rate was 7.2% in December 2008the highest level since January 1993. The African-American unemployment rate stood at 11.9%, the Hispanic unemployment rate at 9.2%, and the unemployment rate for whites at 6.6% in December 2008.
4. The job market recession is the most severe in decades. The labor market shrunk by 1.9% over the course of 2008the fastest decline during the 12 months after a recession started since the recession that started in May 1960. The unemployment rate rose 2.3% during the first 12 months of the recessionthe fastest such increase since the recession that started in January 1970.
5. Wages have temporarily outgrown inflation. Factoring in inflation, hourly wages were 2.3% and weekly wages were 3.3% higher in November 2008 than in December 2007. These increases followed lower prices in November 2008 and are unlikely to continue.
6. Benefits decreased before the crisis. The share of private sector workers with a pension dropped from 50.3% in 2000 to 45.1% in 2007, and the share of people with employer-provided health insurance dropped from 64.2% in 2000 to 59.3% in 2007.
7. Families are still burdened by high levels of debt. Household debt averaged 130.3% of disposable income in the third quarter of 2008, down from a record high of 133.5% at the end of 2007, but higher than any level recorded before September 2006.
8. The housing crisis deepens. New home sales in November 2008 were 35.3% lower and existing home sales were 10.6% lower than a year earlier. Median sale prices for new homes dropped by 11.5% and those for existing homes by 13.2% during the same time. It would take more than 11 months to sell all houses on the market at the current rate of new home sales. This has been true for four months in a row now, making this the worst new home sales market since the Census Bureau collected these data in 1963.
9. Homeowners lose wealth. The values of all homes fell by $656 billion in the third quarter of 2008 after accounting for inflation, and they were 13.6% or $2.4 trillion lower than a year earlier, making it the largest such drop since the Federal Reserve collected these data in 1952. Home equity as a share of home values also fell to a record low of 44.7% in the third quarter of 2008.
10. Mortgage troubles mount. One in 10 mortgages is delinquent or in foreclosure. The share of mortgages that were delinquent during the third quarter of 2008 was 7.0%, and the share of mortgages that were in foreclosure was 3.0%. The share of new mortgages going into foreclosure stayed at its record high of 1.1% in the third quarter.
11. Families feel the pressure. Credit card defaults rose to 5.6% of all credit card debt by the third quarter of 2008an increase of 35.4% from the fourth quarter of 2007.
12. Business investment declines. Business investment declined by 1.7% in the third quarter of 2008the largest decline since the first quarter of 2004. Business spending on equipment and software also dropped for the third quarter in a row, the longest such decline since the first quarter of 2002.
13. The trade deficit remains high. The trade deficit stood at 4.9% of GDP in the third quarter of 2008. Despite declining slightly, the trade deficit remains at a historically high and ultimately unsustainable level.
14. Large deficits are looming. Following years of fiscal and economic mismanagement, the federal governments deficit is expected to reach $1.2 trillion in 2009, even before a necessary economic stimulus has been enacted.

I simply stated that the reduction in treasury rec... (show quote)

Besides which, the repeal of Glass-Stegall was written by rebublicans, signed by Clinton yes, but written by republicans.