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Jun 12, 2018 18:55:26   #
Lonewolf
 
trump aways provides a good show now he can rush home and bash our friends and allies some more
then there's always Putin's work to do.




straightUp wrote:
LOL, That's what I was thinking... I was tuned into the live coverage and couldn't help but laugh at all the media attention. You could see camera crews tripping over themselves to take pictures while commentators took turns guessing at what the meeting would be about. "Maybe they will agree to agree on something." You can't write better comedy.

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Jun 12, 2018 21:32:37   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Lonewolf wrote:
trump aways provides a good show now he can rush home and bash our friends and allies some more
then there's always Putin's work to do.

It *is* interesting how he aligns himself with dictators, while insulting our allies. Our allies are upholding the values we instilled upon the world in the years following WW2, such as human rights and economic responsibility. It's ironic that we now have a president that opposes those values and insults our allies for upholding them.

Your crack about Putin isn't that far-fetched either... Even if Trump can weasel his way out of direct involvement (which any president should be able to do, just ask Oliver North) the evidence is clear that Russian oligarchs have demonstrated an interest in American politics. I think what makes that connection difficult for Americans to take seriously, is that for some reason they think Russians are still running a Soviet system and that their goal is to put America under soviet control. But Russian oligarchs became billionaires by privatizing the Soviet system. It wouldn't be crazy to suspect that they are interested in getting even richer by privatizing our progressive system.

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Jun 12, 2018 22:05:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Lonewolf wrote:
trump aways provides a good show now he can rush home and bash our friends and allies some more
then there's always Putin's work to do.



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Jun 13, 2018 06:44:17   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
What a spectacle!

I'm sure it took millions of tax dollars to pull off one of the most elaborate productions in history, the setting was beautiful, camera shutters endlessly clicking... Oh, here they are... get a picture! Oh, wait... wasn't there supposed to be some kind of agreement? Something about getting North Korea to give up their nuclear weapons?

Yes, indeed and here it is... the FULL text, right here...

Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

Having acknowledged that the U.S.-DPRK summit — the first in history — was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-up negotiations, led by the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.-DPRK summit.

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new U.S.-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.

(Signed)

DONALD J. TRUMP
President of the United States of America

KIM JONG UN
Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

June 12, 2018
Sentosa Island
Singapore


So... that's it?
Yep.

So aside from the abundant self-promotion ("...held a first, historic summit", "...an epochal event of great significance") there are only four actual commitments...

1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

These are just vague promises. Campaign trail stuff... Where are the teeth? At least Obama got Iran to actually agree to a weapons inspection program, which Trump's own administration was forced to admit was actually working (while at the same time calling it a bad deal). So did Kim agree to weapons inspections? No? He didn't? Then what do these four promises actually buy us? Did he even promise to destroy his nuclear program? No? He didn't?

This is laughable. The "great summit" produced nothing more than Obama was able to accomplish with a simple phone call at the start of his negotiations with Iran. It wasn't even a summit... "Summit" is a reference to the top of a mountain that you can't reach without climbing to get there. In the political world, that concept is applied to meetings that can't be reached without a political climb, usually consisting of months or even years of planning and negotiating. The "promises" to work toward a solution is what happens at the start of the climb not at the summit. The agreement even says that negotiations will follow... so, it's not a summit...

When the leaders involved in a "summit" say they are going in with clean slates to negotiate their own deal... It's not a summit. When the journalists and commentators are all waiting outside the room guessing what the meeting will even be about - it's NOT a summit! Trump, being as narcissistic and as close to illiterate as any president has ever been, probably thinks it's a summit because it's between two top dogs. But if this was a real summit, resting on a mountain of serious negotiations and planning, it would have featured details about reports, inspections and certainly more specifics on what these vague promises actually mean.

I think what's going on here, is neither Trump nor Kim are willing to compromise so instead of putting the summit at the end of the negotiating process, they put it at the start so they get the chance to bask in the glory of a fake summit and hopefully make the history books BEFORE negotiations fall apart. So, thank's for the show Trump... but I'm not impressed by two fat dotards who think they can scare the world by volleying childish tweets at each other then make people think they are saving it by kissing and making up in front of a staged release of doves.
What a spectacle! br br I'm sure it took million... (show quote)

It took only 550 days for a real man like Trump to get Kim Un to see the error if his ways. It took Clinton, Bush, ovommit, the dems and rinos 32 years to get nothing done and Kim was still shooting rockets off. It goes to show you, don't elect politicians as they are totally useless in solving problems but look to a successful self starting businessman to break through the useless corrupt political practices that keep our country from reaching its former greatness. Go President Trump, MAGA!!!

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Jun 13, 2018 06:47:38   #
Big Kahuna
 
F.D.R. wrote:
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". Neither Trump nor Kim can produce miracles. Apparently in your eyes, only Obama can do that but for reasons unknown to us mere mortals he chose not to so I guess we'll just have to plod along with the the two we have to work with. It's a start in a long process and I have no doubt that Democrats will be busy digging potholes every step along the way.

And you can add:
Potholes, land mines, leftist propaganda, and everything illegal and immoral!!

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Jun 13, 2018 06:51:03   #
Big Kahuna
 
Lonewolf wrote:
I doubt Kim beleaved any thing trump said but I'll bet trump believed everything Kim said
Kim should get the nobile peace prize!


Actually, ovommit, if he were a real man, needs to give his nobel prize to someone who really deserves it, The Great President, Donald J. Trump!!

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Jun 13, 2018 06:52:51   #
Steve700
 
straightUp wrote:
Sierra Mike Charlie, chump.

I see you still haven't learned anything or gotten any smarter. Only a fool expected a lot to be accomplished in one meeting. How many months was it of constant negotiation before Obama did that fraudulent deal with the Iranians? We got it now in writing and signed that a complete giving up of further nuclear development and stockpiles has been agreed upon. --- That's enough for now and the next step will be to agree on inspection methods in terms. Don't you think that China's leader and his big tall black basketball buddy have had an influence on him? And now that he's been out of his own country and seeing the grandeur and prosperity of capitalist countries. Don't you think you might be having 2nd thoughts about the path his country has been on. And do you realize that it is human nature that when someone is abusing you, thinking your a putz, you need to kick their ass, knocking some respect into them, before they realize your superiority and want to be your friend. That has happened to Kim by Trump and he can't escape that knowledge. You goofy leftists are criticizing him for not getting down on Kim about his human rights abuses. You stupid leftist bastard's will criticize anything not realizing you don't immediately spoil a building relationship by attacking his ego and a challenging embedded generational ways of doing things. The proper time will come, but just like Marxism is taking us over one step at a time,we need to allow plenty of time for the evolving changes in the thinking of his mind. Beyond all that Kim has good cause to worry about being ousted in a revolution. If he allows his present situation of coming bankruptcy and the population starving continuing to evolve. What Trump has accomplished in so many areas is nothing short of remarkable. But of course the leftist/globalist destroyTrump by any means necessary news sources you listen to aren't going to tell you a damn thing of it. And maybe if you are listening to the right sources instead of allowing your mind to be molded by the America hating diabolical globalist parasites that want to determine your destiny and that will go to any lengths to do it, maybe then you would be able to discern a little more clearly.



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Jun 13, 2018 06:57:44   #
Big Kahuna
 
Lonewolf wrote:
I doubt Kim beleaved any thing trump said but I'll bet trump believed everything Kim said
Kim should get the nobile peace prize!


You leftists can't win on any talking points now! It's great fun to see you leftist loons coming out of the woodwork with your leftist rants. Soon, like cockroaches , you will be trying to lay your eggsacks on all unsuspecting voters, but your gig is up and the great exterminators, the American patriots, are exterminating you and your eggsacks daily. Victory is ours and to the victors go the spoils (and riches I might add).

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Jun 13, 2018 09:22:45   #
Lonewolf
 
The patriots your talking about are traitors like trump.
Did you read what they signed they dident agrree to anything trump can't be trusted to keep a agreement 4.500 lawsuits proves that.
Trumps s draft dodger 5 times some patriot


drlarrygino wrote:
You leftists can't win on any talking points now! It's great fun to see you leftist loons coming out of the woodwork with your leftist rants. Soon, like cockroaches , you will be trying to lay your eggsacks on all unsuspecting voters, but your gig is up and the great exterminators, the American patriots, are exterminating you and your eggsacks daily. Victory is ours and to the victors go the spoils (and riches I might add).

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Jun 13, 2018 17:58:58   #
Steve700
 
Lonewolf wrote:
The patriots your talking about are traitors like trump.
Did you read what they signed they dident agrree to anything trump can't be trusted to keep a agreement 4.500 lawsuits proves that.
Trumps s draft dodger 5 times some patriot

You are living proof of the effectiveness of Marxist propaganda, causing an otherwise normal person to become quite insane and in a very evil & stupidly demented way, and thus taking up residency in the opposite lands of the mind. You kooks will say anything, regardless of how ridiculous because you have no real facts on which to present a case. For instance, just how is Trump a traitor ?????????????? There is no way in hell you can provide a valid example because it ain't so, you know it, but say it anyway.

Would you like me to provide you with plenty of examples of just how your anti-American commie Muslim hero, Obama, has been a traitor to this nation through out right traitorous acts, deceits, cover up and omissions in his efforts to get away from what our founding fathers envisioned and set into place as expressed by him in his promise of (Marxist) "Fundamental Transformation" of this nation ????????????????????????????????



Just look how crazy and evilly demented you liberals are.. Just keep it up because you are Helping us. Even a lot of liberals with half a brain still left in their head are wondering what the hell they've gotten into and Switching sides.
Just look how crazy and evilly demented you libera...

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Jun 13, 2018 18:26:28   #
EmilyD
 
F.D.R. wrote:
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". Neither Trump nor Kim can produce miracles. Apparently in your eyes, only Obama can do that but for reasons unknown to us mere mortals he chose not to so I guess we'll just have to plod along with the the two we have to work with. It's a start in a long process and I have no doubt that Democrats will be busy digging potholes every step along the way.


That's right.....at least it's a START. If it goes somewhere, than Trump will have accomplished a huge achievement. If it goes nowhere, then at least the whole world saw him try to do something. Trump doesn't like to take no for an answer, so my opinion is Trump will keep on trying to make sure Kim stays true to his promise to denuclearize or Trump will hold him accountable for as long as he is President...more and more sanctions.

Meanwhile back here, Trump should start sanctioning illegal aliens...

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Jun 13, 2018 19:10:15   #
Lonewolf
 
obama is not president




Steve700 wrote:
You are living proof of the effectiveness of Marxist propaganda, causing an otherwise normal person to become quite insane and in a very evil & stupidly demented way, and thus taking up residency in the opposite lands of the mind. You kooks will say anything, regardless of how ridiculous because you have no real facts on which to present a case. For instance, just how is Trump a traitor ?????????????? There is no way in hell you can provide a valid example because it ain't so, you know it, but say it anyway.

Would you like me to provide you with plenty of examples of just how your anti-American commie Muslim hero, Obama, has been a traitor to this nation through out right traitorous acts, deceits, cover up and omissions in his efforts to get away from what our founding fathers envisioned and set into place as expressed by him in his promise of (Marxist) "Fundamental Transformation" of this nation ????????????????????????????????
You are living proof of the effectiveness of Marxi... (show quote)

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Jun 13, 2018 19:12:27   #
Lonewolf
 
trump and Kim both are known for not keeping their word trump was sued 4500 times for it
trumps doing just what Putin wants



EmilyD wrote:
That's right.....at least it's a START. If it goes somewhere, than Trump will have accomplished a huge achievement. If it goes nowhere, then at least the whole world saw him try to do something. Trump doesn't like to take no for an answer, so my opinion is Trump will keep on trying to make sure Kim stays true to his promise to denuclearize or Trump will hold him accountable for as long as he is President...more and more sanctions.

Meanwhile back here, Trump should start sanctioning illegal aliens...
That's right.....at least it's a START. If it goe... (show quote)

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Jun 13, 2018 21:08:36   #
EmilyD
 
Lonewolf wrote:
trump and Kim both are known for not keeping their word trump was sued 4500 times for it
trumps doing just what Putin wants


I did not say Trump was not going to keep his word, that's your spin. Who gives a shit about Trump's law suits. So what. Obama, Bush, Clinton lied, too...they all lied. What my point is, is that even though you liberals don't like it, Trump has TRIED to do something good here. Kim is controlled by China. What matters here is what CHINA does about Trump's message. The message is loud and clear, it's just a matter of waiting to see if China tells Kim to back down, or if they use Kim as a testing board to see if Trump will actually follow through on the results if his message is ignored. If nothing happens, at least we know Trump tried. That's what bugs the hell out of you libs.

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Jun 13, 2018 21:57:00   #
Steve700
 
Lonewolf wrote:
obama is not president

That is a Piss Poor Excuse of an attempt sidetrack and Evade the Point. The traitorous anti-American commie Muslim creep is still your hero and the damage he has done still lingers with us even after trumps best efforts to undo his damage.
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump and Kim both are known for not keeping their word. Trump was sued 4500 times for it.

That is an absolute bull shit distortion of reality. What slandering and distorting lying left wing source are you getting that bull shit from? Is it a distortion arising from a dispute with a corporation of 4,500 people. That's the kind of Slanderously Dishonest Distortions you Marxist Commie Lefties are famous for.



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