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Jun 17, 2018 21:42:43   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Super Dave wrote:
You say that as you evade the my post that clearly pointed out your stupidity in blaming the world court to begin with when we all knew Obama chose to funnel money to terrorists. He wasn't ordered.


Thus his necessity to sneak it to them... Doesn't take rocket science to fullly comprehend what really went down..bo was simply doing what he did his entire time occupying our Oval office.. Help the terrorist!!!

He sure was not helping our country!!! Nor was that ever his mission....

Never mind that money had been contested for what 40 yrs??? Not to mention simply ignoring a long standing rule we don’t pay for hostages.. But remember we weren't paying for them, that was just done the same day the payment was made out of the goodness of their no hearts~~

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Jun 17, 2018 22:17:46   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
Dave,

It could not be move electronically because Iran was blocked from access via US banks.

That is also part of the reason the cash was not in US dollars..

The amount determined by the world court was a bargain for the US and paid ASAP in part due to that fact.

Once their money was returned to them, no outside force could determine what it was used for.. Sad but true and that was what Kerry was speaking about.


Who put the gun to Kerry and Obama's head to give them that money ?

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Jun 17, 2018 22:23:31   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
You stupid fool... everyone knows that the court did not and could "order" the president of any nation to do anything..

You pose a question that I would have to subscribe to your POV in order to answer it..

That is such a dumb tactic that even the junior high kids seldom use it..

So one more time for your impaired brain molecules..

The international court decided on the amount of interest the US owed to Iran.. an amount which was far below the figure Iran had in mind and even lower then the US was prepared to pay.

The United States as a sovereign nation upholding the agreements it has made with other nations paid that amount in the method required at the moment in history..

No funneling, not secret, no indangering our military, nothing but an ordinary air force run from one point to another..
You stupid fool... everyone knows that the court... (show quote)
Get off your knees for once.

America has no obligation to fund terrorism.... Period. You brought up the world court, Dumbweasel, remember? Courts issue rulings. These rulings can order people under the Court's jurisdiction to take actions.

America isn't under any non-American courts jurisdiction therefore Obama wasn't obligated to pay the terrorists squat... Period.

How can you be such a slave to a political party?

There's no such thing as an "ordinary run" with a plane load of cash being delivered to terrorists. Damn you're thick.

If you really support the Iranians and their sponsorship of terrorism, just say so and stop being such a weasel.

You're tying your spine in knots by supporting every stupid and/or Anti-American act Obama took and then trying to distance yourself from the same actions you support.

Grow up and be a man...

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Jun 18, 2018 09:41:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
Who put the gun to Kerry and Obama's head to give them that money ?




Son, if you really give a hoot and do not know, go back to my several posts.. they cover the circumstances and needs of the time..

an internet search will give you the information from a great number of articles..

the only unbelievable part of this is the refusal of right wingers to accept the truth..

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Jun 18, 2018 09:50:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
Get off your knees for once.

America has no obligation to fund terrorism.... Period. You brought up the world court, Dumbweasel, remember? Courts issue rulings. These rulings can order people under the Court's jurisdiction to take actions.

America isn't under any non-American courts jurisdiction therefore Obama wasn't obligated to pay the terrorists squat... Period.

How can you be such a slave to a political party?

There's no such thing as an "ordinary run" with a plane load of cash being delivered to terrorists. Damn you're thick.

If you really support the Iranians and their sponsorship of terrorism, just say so and stop being such a weasel.

You're tying your spine in knots by supporting every stupid and/or Anti-American act Obama took and then trying to distance yourself from the same actions you support.

Grow up and be a man...
Get off your knees for once. br br America has no... (show quote)





You are an incredibly obtuse person..

Trying to create a false conclusion while being shown the facts makes you the match of a 12 year old child..

In the past when we had real Presidents and we were the leader of the free world, it was vital that the United States abide with the world courts.. These court are a US brain child and often give ruling which
favor the United States.. This ruling on the amount of interest was one of those in our favor..

Now you have an orange cretin in our white house and think he will help you and the other fools who voted for him.

To date, the few things he has accomplished have shoved the payment long term up the middle class to contend with..

You lake of ability to understand does not mean the truth does not exist..



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Jun 18, 2018 10:17:04   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
son of witless wrote:
Who put the gun to Kerry and Obama's head to give them that money ?


Permadem is stuck between supporting every shit Obama took while trying to pretend that he puts America above politics.

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Jun 18, 2018 10:20:04   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Super Dave wrote:
Permadem is stuck between supporting every shit Obama took while trying to pretend that he puts America above politics.


This morning I made a monument to Obama, but my wife made be flush the toilet.

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Jun 18, 2018 11:53:58   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
Son, if you really give a hoot and do not know, go back to my several posts.. they cover the circumstances and needs of the time..

an internet search will give you the information from a great number of articles..

the only unbelievable part of this is the refusal of right wingers to accept the truth..


The US DID NOT HAVE TO RETURN IRANIAN ASSETS. That was a negotiated deal between Obama and Iran. It was all about paying ransom for American hostages which shows weakness, which was what Obama was always all about. It was more about getting the nuke deal at all costs so that Young and unaccomplished Barak Obama could have some accomplishment he could exaggerate in his future memoirs.

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Jun 18, 2018 14:51:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
The US DID NOT HAVE TO RETURN IRANIAN ASSETS. That was a negotiated deal between Obama and Iran. It was all about paying ransom for American hostages which shows weakness, which was what Obama was always all about. It was more about getting the nuke deal at all costs so that Young and unaccomplished Barak Obama could have some accomplishment he could exaggerate in his future memoirs.



No President make personal deal with nations.. Not now, not ever.....


As some point in time, you need to start see reality..

You right wingers are all the same.. you want no international cooperation..

Your only interests are what makes you feel good right now, right in your home..

All else is to you irrelevant and therefore hateful.

America did not become the leader of the free world by insisting that every thing we wanted be rubber stamped by the rest of the world..

Most international cooperation ideal come from high minded Americans.. No.. that would not be conservatives.

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Jun 18, 2018 15:37:00   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
No President make personal deal with nations.. Not now, not ever.....


As some point in time, you need to start see reality..

You right wingers are all the same.. you want no international cooperation..

Your only interests are what makes you feel good right now, right in your home..

All else is to you irrelevant and therefore hateful.

America did not become the leader of the free world by insisting that every thing we wanted be rubber stamped by the rest of the world..

Most international cooperation ideal come from high minded Americans.. No.. that would not be conservatives.
No President make personal deal with nations.. Not... (show quote)
International cooperation? You mean Obama's cooperation with terrorists by paying for terrorism? That's a really stupid excuse.... Stupier than when you blamed the world court.

And yes. This was Obama's personal deal with Iran, which is why he didn't tell Congress or the American people about it.

The leader of the Free World does not pay for terrorism. That's what the follower of radical Islamic extremism does..

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Jun 18, 2018 16:19:57   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
No President make personal deal with nations.. Not now, not ever.....


As some point in time, you need to start see reality..

You right wingers are all the same.. you want no international cooperation..

Your only interests are what makes you feel good right now, right in your home..

All else is to you irrelevant and therefore hateful.

America did not become the leader of the free world by insisting that every thing we wanted be rubber stamped by the rest of the world..

Most international cooperation ideal come from high minded Americans.. No.. that would not be conservatives.
No President make personal deal with nations.. Not... (show quote)


You are a funny guy. You make it sound as if you know what you are talking about, but then like your mighty hero Barak the Obama you are just vague enough to give yourself an out when I call you on something. Well maybe you are not that bad. I am prone exaggerate to make a point. But enough rambling. Here is my point. You said, " No President make personal deal with nations.. Not now, not ever....."

That is a clever way to phrase it on your part because I am sure you can lawyerly find a loophole, however essentially Yes the Iran Nuclear Deal is very very much a personal deal between President Obama and the Iranian Mullahs. It was an executive order, not a Senate Ratified Treaty. Which is why My Boy Donald J. Trump could discard it like a worthless piece of trash.

" You right wingers are all the same.. you want no international cooperation.. " Where did you get a ridiculous idea like that ?

" Your only interests are what makes you feel good right now, right in your home..

All else is to you irrelevant and therefore hateful. "

You are projecting the character flaws of those on your side onto us.

"
America did not become the leader of the free world by insisting that every thing we wanted be rubber stamped by the rest of the world..

Most international cooperation ideal come from high minded Americans.. No.. that would not be conservatives."

Okay I will bite, you tell me how we became the leader of the free world and then I will correct your mistakes.

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Jun 18, 2018 16:55:02   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
son of witless wrote:
You are a funny guy. You make it sound as if you know what you are talking about, but then like your mighty hero Barak the Obama you are just vague enough to give yourself an out when I call you on something. Well maybe you are not that bad. I am prone exaggerate to make a point. But enough rambling. Here is my point. You said, " No President make personal deal with nations.. Not now, not ever....."

That is a clever way to phrase it on your part because I am sure you can lawyerly find a loophole, however essentially Yes the Iran Nuclear Deal is very very much a personal deal between President Obama and the Iranian Mullahs. It was an executive order, not a Senate Ratified Treaty. Which is why My Boy Donald J. Trump could discard it like a worthless piece of trash.

" You right wingers are all the same.. you want no international cooperation.. " Where did you get a ridiculous idea like that ?

" Your only interests are what makes you feel good right now, right in your home..

All else is to you irrelevant and therefore hateful. "

You are projecting the character flaws of those on your side onto us.

" America did not become the leader of the free world by insisting that every thing we wanted be rubber stamped by the rest of the world..

Most international cooperation ideal come from high minded Americans.. No.. that would not be conservatives."

Okay I will bite, you tell me how we became the leader of the free world and then I will correct your mistakes.
You are a funny guy. You make it sound as if you k... (show quote)


"" America did not become the leader of the free world by insisting that every thing we wanted be rubber stamped by the rest of the world..

Most international cooperation ideal come from high minded Americans.. No.. that would not be conservatives." - Perma

"Okay I will bite, you tell me how we became the leader of the free world and then I will correct your mistakes." - son of witless

yep!
Perma does keep us busy correcting him.

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Jun 18, 2018 17:02:35   #
son of witless
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"" America did not become the leader of the free world by insisting that every thing we wanted be rubber stamped by the rest of the world..

Most international cooperation ideal come from high minded Americans.. No.. that would not be conservatives." - Perma

"Okay I will bite, you tell me how we became the leader of the free world and then I will correct your mistakes." - son of witless

yep!
Perma does keep us busy correcting him.


I at least pretend to know history and it gives me great pleasure when a Liberal tries to tell me how things came to be.

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Jun 18, 2018 17:38:57   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
International cooperation? You mean Obama's cooperation with terrorists by paying for terrorism? That's a really stupid excuse.... Stupier than when you blamed the world court.

And yes. This was Obama's personal deal with Iran, which is why he didn't tell Congress or the American people about it.

The leader of the Free World does not pay for terrorism. That's what the follower of radical Islamic extremism does..




Your are one of the dimmest of the dim..

Nothing you have said is in anyway true.. Only a complete lunatic who has no self respect would claim to be as stupid and unable to understand as you do..

the only thing secret about the money to Iran was the air plain flight..

I should pity you, but I do not..

President was a God send to deal with all the problems left by the Bush Jr administration.

He did a wonderful job and now the orange ding bat is doing everything he can to destroy our image and our country..

Starting with a rebuilt economy and bustling nation, he has made us look like fools in the eyes of the world..

He has grabbed your childrens future and fortune and given it to the very rich and their corporations..

think and live with it

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Jun 18, 2018 17:57:36   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
Your are one of the dimmest of the dim..

Nothing you have said is in anyway true.. Only a complete lunatic who has no self respect would claim to be as stupid and unable to understand as you do..

the only thing secret about the money to Iran was the air plain flight..

I should pity you, but I do not..

President was a God send to deal with all the problems left by the Bush Jr administration.

He did a wonderful job and now the orange ding bat is doing everything he can to destroy our image and our country..

Starting with a rebuilt economy and bustling nation, he has made us look like fools in the eyes of the world..

He has grabbed your childrens future and fortune and given it to the very rich and their corporations..

think and live with it
Your are one of the dimmest of the dim.. br br No... (show quote)
I get that you feel the need to lie.

It would be quite embarrassing to actually be honest enough to admit you support sending a plane load of cash knowing for a fact that much of it would be used to promote and fund terrorism....

I've raised children, and I've seen other children lie because they were embarrassed about far-far less embarrassing things than you are embarrassed about now.

But just think about how much better it would be if you could just get off your knees and admit it when Democrats do something wrong. You could hold your head up high, wear big-boy pants and sit at the adult table.

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