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How can we as a reasoning species get Hitler, yet now we have Trump
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Apr 23, 2018 13:37:10   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
God, I seem to miss everything. How did Obama use the power of government against the people? Is this about FEMA camps or that BS war maneuvers in Texas? Hell, that idiot Texas governor even bought into that one. As for a dictator you start with an authoritarian personality. That's Trump to a tee. Then you have the fact that he feels he's above the law and that the JoD is there to protect him and not serve the country. That too is the characteristic of a dictator. Then of course on Trumps most admired list is Putin, Ergodan, Saddam, and on and on. In fact I don't think he had one person from democracy that he claimed to admire. Of course that's all anecdotal--it won't be until it's a fact that we will know for sure...
God, I seem to miss everything. How did Obama use ... (show quote)


His wire taping operations.

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Apr 23, 2018 13:41:17   #
zillaorange
 
rumitoid wrote:
History ignored once again,


Haven't seen any brown shirts !!! Have you ?

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Apr 23, 2018 13:43:20   #
zillaorange
 
Kevyn wrote:
At this point in his reign Hitler hadn’t invaded or gassed anyone either.


But he had his brown shirts causing as much turmoil, haven't seen any !!!

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Apr 23, 2018 13:44:36   #
zillaorange
 
Singularity wrote:
An insult to poor Adolf....

LOL !

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Apr 23, 2018 13:52:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
You posted a piece of garbage written by someone who knows no more than you do. And--i·de·ol·o·gy: a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy. Blade exactly how did you make it through a masters program and never taken a course in political science! Conservatism is most definitely an ideology and your ignorance of the fact changes nothing.
Denial, projection, denial, projection, is there no end to your neuroses? You appeal to a dictionary definition to offer a rebuttal? Really? If you studied polisci and learned anything of value, one would expect a much more informed, even intelligent, response. Apparently, you were taught what to think, not how. Conservatism IS NOT an ideology, it is based fundamentally in the laws of nature. Unlike liberalism, conservatism is not the result of an artificially constructed political system fashioned out of abstract concepts.

BTW: I made it through the master's program by hard work and study.

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Apr 23, 2018 13:57:16   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
rumitoid wrote:
History ignored once again,


Go back to sleep!!!!!!!!!!

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Apr 23, 2018 13:58:40   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
old marine wrote:
It seems like their is always a few bad apples in a bushel. Apparently they always end up being misled Demon-crat.

Semper Fi
God bless America and President Trump


old Marine: Just like Grandmaw use to say: The Apples never fall far from the tree!

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Apr 23, 2018 13:59:25   #
Carol Kelly
 
Gatsby wrote:
rumi: So much ignorance, in so few words.


Quite to the point. Thank you.

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Apr 23, 2018 14:00:06   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Kevyn wrote:
At this point in his reign Hitler hadn’t invaded or gassed anyone either.


kevie: Every time you open you're mouth we get gassed!

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Apr 23, 2018 14:00:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
His wire taping operations.

The Worst Perversion
By Kevin D. Williamson

January 17, 2017 9:00 AM

Yes, there were Obama-administration scandals. Many, in fact.

The Obama administration was full of scandal, though we have a lazy and partisan news media that is determined to see no scandal in it.

The lame-duck columns have been nearly unanimous on the point: Barack Obama is remarkable among recent presidents for having been utterly untouched by scandal, personal or political.

The personal can be conceded: There is no serious allegation that President Obama suffered from the liberated appetites of a Bill Clinton, and the White House interns have by all accounts gone unmolested. But this is hardly remarkable: There were no such allegations about George W. Bush, either, or about George H. W. Bush, or about Ronald Reagan, or Jimmy Carter. Richard Nixon’s name is a byword for scandal, but not scandal of that sort. Nixon’s shocking personal perversion was his taste for cottage cheese with ketchup.

So, three cheers for Barack Obama’s manful efforts to live up to the standard of Gerald Ford. Well done.

The political issue is a different question entirely.

Not only was the Obama administration marked by scandal of the most serious sort — perverting the machinery of the state for political ends — it was on that front, which is the most important one, the most scandal-scarred administration in modern presidential history.

For your consideration:

Under the Obama administration’s watch, the Internal Revenue Service and other federal agencies from the BATF to the NLRB were illegally used to target and harass the president’s political enemies. The IRS targeting scandal was the most high-profile of these, but others are just as worrisome. Federal investigations and congressional oversight were obstructed, and investigators were lied to outright — a serious crime. The administration protected the wrongdoers and saw to it that they retired with generous federal pensions rather than serving federal sentences for their crimes.

The Obama administration oversaw the illegal sale of arms to Mexican traffickers for purposes that to this date have not been adequately explained, and those guns have been used to murder American law-enforcement officers.

President Obama’s secretary of state was involved in a high-profile case in which she improperly set up a private e-mail system to evade ordinary governmental oversight; she and her associates routinely misled investigators, obstructed investigations, and hid or destroyed evidence. These are all serious crimes.

The Obama administration made ransom payments to the Iranian government and lied about having done so.

Under the Obama administration, the Secret Service has been a one-agency scandal factory, from drunk agents driving their cars into White House barriers to getting mixed up with hookers in Cartagena.

Under the guise of developing “green” energy projects, the Obama administration shunted money to politically connected cronies at Solyndra and elsewhere.

Obama’s men at the Veterans Administration oversaw a system in which our servicemen lost their lives to bureaucratic incompetence and medical neglect, and then falsified records to cover it up.

Under the flimsiest of national-security pretexts, the Obama administration used the Department of Justice to spy on Fox News reporter James Rosen. It also spied on the Associated Press.

The Obama administration’s attorney general, Eric Holder, left office while being held in contempt of Congress for inhibiting the investigation of other Obama administration scandals.

But, no: No embarrassing stain on a blue dress.

Without minimizing the authentic personal degeneracy of Bill Clinton, sexual scandals are minor concerns. They become large public scandals because the numbskulls understand sex and can relate to sexual infidelity. If you’ve ever tried explaining to someone how futures trading works and watched his expression turn to that of a taxidermied mule deer, then you know why it is Bill Clinton, and not Hillary Clinton, who is the face of scandal.

It is one thing to have a degenerate president. It is something else — something far worse — to have a degenerate government. Barack Obama may have spent the past eight years as sober as a Sunday morning (his main vice, we are told, is sneaking cigarettes) and straight as a No. 2 pencil, but he leaves behind a government that is perverted.

The BATF harassment of True the Vote and other Obama-administration enemies is the stuff of which banana republics are made.

A liberal society with decent government requires that the pursuit of political power be insulated from the exercise of political power. That is why we have a Hatch Act and why the various dreams of the would-be campaign-finance police — who would have congressmen and presidents write the rules under which congressmen and presidents may be criticized and challenged — are in reality nightmares. (Here, let us say a word of thanks for the First Amendment and Citizens United.) Having an IRS that sorts nonprofits by their political stances in order to facilitate the harassment of political rivals is in real terms far worse than anything Bill Clinton got up to with Monica Lewinsky, and far worse than the shenanigans that Gordon Liddy and the rest of the Nixon henchmen got up to in the Watergate. The BATF harassment of True the Vote and other Obama-administration enemies is the stuff of which banana republics are made. Using the machinery of the state to seek political power and to aggrandize the political power one holds is the most destructive form of political corruption there is. A sane society would prosecute it the way we prosecute murder or armed robbery. It is a scandal and more than that: It is an assault on the foundations of a free society.

The fact that the same people at CNN who were colluding with the Clinton campaign cannot see a scandal in the Obama administration does not mean that no scandal was there.

For the Democrats and their media partisans, scandals — like homelessness and war casualties — are something that happens to other people.

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Apr 23, 2018 14:01:50   #
zillaorange
 
PeterS wrote:
Hey I can walk down the street without a gun and not even blink a eye. Anyone who spends their days in terror that a scary black man was going to take their AR-15's are the snowflakes. Oh and don't forget to put socialized health care and an end to the tax cut to your list...just so all your peeps know where you stand...

Do you really believe anyone could disarm a person carrying a AR ? Very stunted reasoning !!!!!!

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Apr 23, 2018 14:20:48   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
God, I seem to miss everything. How did Obama use the power of government against the people? Is this about FEMA camps or that BS war maneuvers in Texas? Hell, that idiot Texas governor even bought into that one. As for a dictator you start with an authoritarian personality. That's Trump to a tee. Then you have the fact that he feels he's above the law and that the JoD is there to protect him and not serve the country. That too is the characteristic of a dictator. Then of course on Trumps most admired list is Putin, Ergodan, Saddam, and on and on. In fact I don't think he had one person from democracy that he claimed to admire. Of course that's all anecdotal--it won't be until it's a fact that we will know for sure...
God, I seem to miss everything. How did Obama use ... (show quote)


" How did Obama use the power of government against the people? " I know, I know you will say it was low level underlings and young Barry didn't know nothing about it. Well I think he expected his underlings to do this and not get caught. Also the fact that nobody went to jail and the missing emails were never recovered, even though it is guvment policy to have back ups.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2013/0513/IRS-tea-party-scandal-How-bad-for-Obama

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Apr 23, 2018 14:22:49   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Prove it


Unlike you, I just did. Unlike you I answer the freakin question. Unlike you I don't run away when questioned and confronted.

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Apr 23, 2018 14:32:56   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Paybacktimeishere wrote:
How can we as a reasoning species get
Hitler, yet now we have Trump?

I really, didn't want to get into this, & it's only
in the last five year's, that I've opened up,about
my service in Southeast Asia, where So Many Brave, & Noble American's Fought & Died, or were horribly wounded, or Tortured, by A Vicious, & Unmerciful Communist, Enemy. I was
Involved in the Vietnamese, Transitional, Program, as America Started, It's Slow Withdrawal, Program From South Vietnam, &
Turning The War Over, To Same. I NEVER, EVER,
Thought America, Would Abandon South Vietnam, To The Ruthless, & Brutal, Enemy!!!
I Was Shocked, Sad, ANGRY, & Felt Completely
Betrayed, By The Cowardly, LEFTIST, & "Sell-Out", "Spineless", Politician's, Representing ALL
Of us Patriotic, Loyal, & Anti-Communist, American's!? THE SIGHT Of That Last "Chopper"
Leaving, The Roof-Top In SAIGON, "Broke My Heart", & I Decended Into A "Muderous Rage",
Because American's, Just Didn't Do This Kind Of
Thing,To It's Ally In War, Or The Nearly 59,000
American, & Some Two Million South Vietnamese, Whom Sacrificed Everything!!! The
REAL, HERO'S!! That Is When I Realized, What
The Veteran's Of World War One, Germany, Must Have Felt. Corporal Adolph Hitler, Unfortunately, Blamed The Innocent, as well as The Guilty, For Germany's Betrayal, & Descent
Into Chaos, & Revolution!! Hitler lifted Germany,
Up, & Off Of It's Knee's & Into A Prosperous, &
Military Industrial Giant!!! I Can Only Assume,
That After 1932, Hitler's Narcotic Drug Use, Provided By His Personal Physician,
Dr. Morrell, Hastened His Complete Madness!?
PRESIDENT TRUMP, I Might Add, Was Never In
The Military,( Graduated From A Prestigious, New York Military Academy), & Does Not Drink
Alcoholic Beverages, OR Partake Of ANY DRUG'S, Despite THE LYING, FAKE, & SATANIC ,
PRO-COMMUNIST, "MEDIA"!!! I Will Stand By HIM, Because He's ALL, REAL AMERICAN'S Have,
Between, "WE THE PEOPLE" & The "DEEP STATE", TRAITOR'S!!!
Payback
How can we as a reasoning species get br Hitler, y... (show quote)



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Apr 23, 2018 14:37:32   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
zillaorange wrote:
Do you really believe anyone could disarm a person carrying a AR ? Very stunted reasoning !!!!!!


One did in Tenn.

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