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May 3, 2018 14:15:39   #
Singularity
 
mwdegutis wrote:
As usual, you do not know how to interpret the Bible and take things out of context because you do not have the discernment of the Holy Spirit. First let’s review the passage:

2 Corinthians 6:14-16 (NASB)
14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I will dwell in them and walk among them; And I will be their God, and they shall be My people.”

Time for a little “learnin’” Singularity…

This section of 2 Corinthians is one of the key passages in all the word of God on the subject of separation or not being yoked with an unbeliever.

Mention of not being bound together or the unequal yoke suggests Deuteronomy 22:10 : "You shall not plow with an ox and a donkey together." The ox was a clean animal and the donkey unclean, and their step and pull are unequal. By way of contrast, when believers are yoked with the Lord Jesus, they find that His yoke is easy and His burden is light (Matthew 11:29-30 ~ “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light”).

It certainly refers to the marriage relationship. A Christian should not marry an unsaved person. However, in cases where a believer is already married to an unbeliever, this passage does not justify separation or divorce. God's will in such a case is that the marriage relationship should be maintained with a view to the eventual salvation of the unsaved member.

In addition to this, it refers to business. A Christian should not go into partnership with one who does not know the Lord. A Christian should maintain contact with the unsaved in an effort to win them to Christ, but he should never engage in their sinful pleasures or in any of their activities in such a way as to lead them to think he is no different than they (like baking a cake).

Finally, Paul did not say that Christians should have no contacts whatever with unbelievers. He argued the absurdity of such a position (1 Corinthians 5:9-10 ~ I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world).
As usual, you do not know how to interpret the Bib... (show quote)

No. You are the one resisting your gods command.

"Yokes", meaning promises, agreements, relationships, contracts, elected positions... Whatev. If it involves a partner or shareholder or superior officer with the power to compel you to honor the contract in spite of religious objection, and you can separate from this unclean relationship (proprietotor of a bakery, legally required to serve public without discrimination) you are then required to do so.

To refuse this simple express command of your deity given for this express situation means you don't take your religious requirements seriously anyway, so why should the government worry about your aversion to butt sex!?!

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May 3, 2018 14:48:17   #
PeterS
 
mwdegutis wrote:
As usual, you do not know how to interpret the Bible and take things out of context because you do not have the discernment of the Holy Spirit. First let’s review the passage:

2 Corinthians 6:14-16 (NASB)
14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I will dwell in them and walk among them; And I will be their God, and they shall be My people.”

Time for a little “learnin’” Singularity…

This section of 2 Corinthians is one of the key passages in all the word of God on the subject of separation or not being yoked with an unbeliever.

Mention of not being bound together or the unequal yoke suggests Deuteronomy 22:10 : "You shall not plow with an ox and a donkey together." The ox was a clean animal and the donkey unclean, and their step and pull are unequal. By way of contrast, when believers are yoked with the Lord Jesus, they find that His yoke is easy and His burden is light (Matthew 11:29-30 ~ “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light”).

It certainly refers to the marriage relationship. A Christian should not marry an unsaved person. However, in cases where a believer is already married to an unbeliever, this passage does not justify separation or divorce. God's will in such a case is that the marriage relationship should be maintained with a view to the eventual salvation of the unsaved member.

In addition to this, it refers to business. A Christian should not go into partnership with one who does not know the Lord. A Christian should maintain contact with the unsaved in an effort to win them to Christ, but he should never engage in their sinful pleasures or in any of their activities in such a way as to lead them to think he is no different than they (like baking a cake).

Finally, Paul did not say that Christians should have no contacts whatever with unbelievers. He argued the absurdity of such a position (1 Corinthians 5:9-10 ~ I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world).
As usual, you do not know how to interpret the Bib... (show quote)

So where do you get baking a cake is participating in a sinful pleasure? Does the baker have homosexual impulses so baking a cake would cause him to become unclean? Honestly MW, I don't see how the act of baking a cake can be construed to be participating in their sin. When you voted for Donald Trump did you participate in his adultery? So how would a baker be participating in a homosexual act merely by baking a cake?

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May 3, 2018 14:49:02   #
PeterS
 
Singularity wrote:
No. You are the one resisting your gods command.

"Yokes", meaning promises, agreements, relationships, contracts, elected positions... Whatev. If it involves a partner or shareholder or superior officer with the power to compel you to honor the contract in spite of religious objection, and you can separate from this unclean relationship (proprietotor of a bakery, legally required to serve public without discrimination) you are then required to do so.

To refuse this simple express command of your deity given for this express situation means you don't take your religious requirements seriously anyway, so why should the government worry about your aversion to butt sex!?!
No. You are the one resisting your gods command. b... (show quote)

nicely done...

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May 3, 2018 15:15:47   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Singularity and PeterS...

Trying to discuss the truth with you is like talking to a brick wall. It is a COMPLETE waste of my time. I'm sorry that I've spent as much time as I have on this. All you two do is deflect, lie, and twist words to match what's in your mind your bogus truth. You can go ahead and say you "won" if that's what your infinitesimally "mature" minds want but you will find out one day very soon that you are terribly wrong. And that will be something you will regret for eternity. But hey, it's your choice. Enjoy what little of your "lives" you have left because that's all you have.

Good day.

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May 3, 2018 15:30:46   #
Singularity
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Singularity and PeterS...

Trying to discuss the truth with you is like talking to a brick wall. It is a COMPLETE waste of my time. I'm sorry that I've spent as much time as I have on this. All you two do is deflect, lie, and twist words to match what's in your mind your bogus truth. You can go ahead and say you "won" if that's what your infinitesimally "mature" minds want but you will find out one day very soon that you are terribly wrong. And that will be something you will regret for eternity. But hey, it's your choice. Enjoy what little of your "lives" you have left because that's all you have.

Good day.
Singularity and PeterS... br br Trying to discuss... (show quote)


In your refusal to accept and believe the commands of the god in your bible, you are every bit as atheist as PeterS or I.

I guess our tutorial is at an end since you are successfully deconverted!

Good day, indeed.

Try this and see what a conversation with you feels like. Keep it running for three days. . .Then accuse my ass of lacking lovingkindnrss!
Try this and see what a conversation with you feel...

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May 3, 2018 15:52:57   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Singularity and PeterS...

Trying to discuss the truth with you is like talking to a brick wall. It is a COMPLETE waste of my time. I'm sorry that I've spent as much time as I have on this. All you two do is deflect, lie, and twist words to match what's in your mind your bogus truth. You can go ahead and say you "won" if that's what your infinitesimally "mature" minds want but you will find out one day very soon that you are terribly wrong. And that will be something you will regret for eternity. But hey, it's your choice. Enjoy what little of your "lives" you have left because that's all you have.

Good day.
Singularity and PeterS... br br Trying to discuss... (show quote)
Finally, mw, now stick with it. The worst of them are the apostates.

To whom shall I speak and give warning that they may hear? Behold, their ears are closed and they cannot listen. Behold, the word of the LORD has become a reproach to them; They have no delight in it.

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May 4, 2018 08:20:59   #
Singularity
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Finally, mw, now stick with it. The worst of them are the apostates.

To whom shall I speak and give warning that they may hear? Behold, their ears are closed and they cannot listen. Behold, the word of the LORD has become a reproach to them; They have no delight in it.


There you go!

Making a quick exit so no one notices you have not responded regarding the god ordained solution to your gay wedding cake persecution complex?

Meh. You know I'm correct on this one, but you won't bend your pride to meet your god's will. Talk about "ears closed that will not listen,"

That would make you an apostate, too! Welcome to the nonbelievers club!

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