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Apr 16, 2018 17:17:22   #
Radiance3
 
malachi wrote:
Dearheart, your attitude stinks to high heaven. So sorry.

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I can smell you miles away. I think your brain and heart really belong to Satan. Get out of my way Satan. Good riddance. I don't talk to Satan now.

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Apr 16, 2018 17:32:57   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
bahmer wrote:
Yes lets give this a rest and as I feared this was going to be a food fight before I entered it because religion is a very personal matter with each and every one of us and to sit down and discuss this topic open mindedly is virtually impossible to do. The only way that this would work is if either the catholics had questions and ashed the others on here that belong to other denominations their questions or if people in other denominations had questions and asked catholics for their opinion. Making a statement about catholics going to hell or the other way around starts the discussion in a negative attitude as opposed to a positive one. Lets just leave this alone for the time being at least.
Yes lets give this a rest and as I feared this was... (show quote)


The only ones who said anything about Catholics going to Hell , was the Catholics. The Bible believers simply stated that Salvation was by Grace, a gift, not by works. There then followed a long list of sinners among us, which just proves the point, so blind. Why is it so offensive to trust in Jesus to perform that which He promised, if we will simply believe? I really don't have it in me to build a Basilica.

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Apr 16, 2018 17:34:46   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I can smell you miles away. I think your brain and heart really belong to Satan. Get out of my way Satan. Good riddance. I don't talk to Satan now.

Now that's scary. Why so threatened?

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Apr 16, 2018 17:47:05   #
Radiance3
 
out of the woods wrote:
The only ones who said anything about Catholics going to Hell , was the Catholics. The Bible believers simply stated that Salvation was by Grace, a gift, not by works. There then followed a long list of sinners among us, which just proves the point, so blind. Why is it so offensive to trust in Jesus to perform that which He promised, if we will simply believe? I really don't have it in me to build a Basilica.

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That's according to your brain. You have your 1st amendment rights.

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Apr 16, 2018 17:48:07   #
Radiance3
 
out of the woods wrote:
The only ones who said anything about Catholics going to Hell , was the Catholics. The Bible believers simply stated that Salvation was by Grace, a gift, not by works. There then followed a long list of sinners among us, which just proves the point, so blind. Why is it so offensive to trust in Jesus to perform that which He promised, if we will simply believe? I really don't have it in me to build a Basilica.

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You sound like democrats and liberals who twist the facts. I'm one with tons of bee hives chasing me. Liberals/democrats, MSM's all report falsehoods. Not worth my time.

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Apr 16, 2018 18:19:07   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
out of the woods wrote:
The only ones who said anything about Catholics going to Hell , was the Catholics. The Bible believers simply stated that Salvation was by Grace, a gift, not by works. There then followed a long list of sinners among us, which just proves the point, so blind. Why is it so offensive to trust in Jesus to perform that which He promised, if we will simply believe? I really don't have it in me to build a Basilica.


There are none so blind as those that will not see.

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Apr 16, 2018 18:28:22   #
Radiance3
 
mwdegutis wrote:

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

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Blinded by the glitters of the world!

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Apr 22, 2018 08:34:46   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
I am an evangelical Christian, crazylibertarian, thank you for asking.

Contrary to your claim, I have distorted nothing.

Christianity is Christ; Not a Building, a Denomination, or an Institution! If Jesus Christ were not alive there would be no Christian faith because He is all that it offers. Christianity is not an impersonal religion but a personal relationship with the Living God who will never again die.

Evangelicalism, i.e., evangelical Christianity, is the 2,000 year old worldwide, cross-denominational Christianity which maintains the original belief that the essence of the Gospel consists of the doctrine of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ's atonement, exactly as written and taught in the Holy Scriptures of the Bible's New Testament.

The term Christian means "follower of Christ." Christian is the term given to followers of Jesus Christ in the first century A.D. (Acts 11:26). The term evangelical translates from the Greek word that means "good news." Evangelism is sharing the good news (gospel) of the salvation that is available through Jesus Christ. An evangelical is a Christian dedicated to proclaiming the "good news" of Jesus Christ.

An "evangelical Christian," therefore, is a believer and follower of Jesus Christ who faithfully shares and promotes the "good news," i.e., His gospel of Salvation as Jesus commanded we do; His Salvation which is available to all individuals who will believe and accept God's gift, as it is offered in Holy Scripture.

Evangelical Christians should never be sidetracked into abandoning our highest calling, that of sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ, as it is written.

Roman Catholic practitioners have been deprived by their church, of the assurance of salvation that God's word promises them, and are prey to the greedy doctrines of the purchase of prayers for their loved ones, after death, to remove them from "purgatory," and of indulgences to reduce their time in purgatory by days, or weeks... to release their loved ones souls to heaven. God has said in Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, lest any man should boast."


Below are the Historical Dates on which Catholic Popes used insidious Paganism to invade Christianity through Roman Catholicism.

The Apostle Peter warned of these greedy false leaders who would arise among you: "Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of the truth will be defamed. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed."(2nd Peter 2:2-3)

All of the following unbiblical, pagan Roman Catholic teachings and practices endorsed by ungodly Popes are to be found detailed and endorsed in either, and sometimes both of the official Roman Catholic publications: The Catholic Encyclopedia, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Included are the dates by which they were officially adopted by Catholic councils and/or proclaimed "dogmas of faith" by the Pope of that date.

None of these practices were ever commanded by God as they are not even mentioned in His Holy Word. They are men's traditions, and have all been traced back to pre-Christian pagan religions; thus, they are formed from power hungry men's religious rebellions against God, in combination with a false interpretation of God's revelation in His Holy Word, all assimilated into Roman Catholicism, creating the unholy "mixture," or "strange fire upon the altar" in worship, that God says He abhors:


Presbyters, or elders, were first called priests by Lucian... 2nd century A.D.
Prayers for the dead... 300 A.D.
The veneration of angels and dead saints and the use of images... 375 A.D.
The Mass as a daily celebration was adopted... 394 A.D.
The beginning of the exaltation of Mary, and the first use of the term "Mother of God:" by the Council of Ephesus... 431 A.D.
Priests began to dress different from the laity and to wear special clothes... 500 A.D.
Extreme Unction... 526 A.D.
The doctrine of purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great... 593 A.D.
Prayers began to be offered to Mary, dead saints, and angels... 600 A.D.
The first man was proclaimed "Pope" (Boniface III)... 610 A.D.
Veneration of the cross, images, and relics authorized... 788 A.C.
Holy water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by a priest was authorized in... 850 A.D.
Veneration of Saint Joseph... 890 A.D.
College of cardinals begun... 927 A.D.
Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV... 995 A.D.
The Mass developed gradually as a sacrifice, attendance was made obligatory in... 11th century A.D.
The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by the Lateran Councils... 1123 A.D. and 1139 A.D.
The rosary, or prayer beads (copied from Hindus and Muslums) was introduced by Peter the Hermit... 1090 A.D.
The Inquisition of "Heretics" was instituted by Council of Verona - 1184 A.D., legalized, promoted by 4th Lateran Council l2l5 A.D.
The sale of indulgences... 1190 A.D.
The seven sacraments defined by Peter Lombard... 12th Century A.D.
The dogma of transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III... 1215 A.D.
Confession of sins to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III in the Lateran Council... 1215 A.D.
The adoration of the wafer (host) decreed by Pope Honorius III... 1220 A.D.
The scapular invented by Simon Stock of England... 1251 A.D.
The doctrine of purgatory proclaimed a dogma by the Council of Florence... 1439 A.D.
Tradition is declared of equal authority with the Bible by the Council of Trent... 1545 A.D.
The Apocryphal Books were added to the Bible by the Council of Trent... 1546 A.D.
The Immaculate Conception of Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX in 1854 A.D.
Pope Pius IX condemns all scientific discoveries not approved by the Roman Church... 1864 A.D.
Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals proclaimed by the First Vatican Council... 1870\tab A.D.
Pius XI condemned the public schools... 1930 A.D.
Pius XI reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "The Mother of God"... 1931 A.D.
The dogma of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII... 1950 A.D.
Mary was proclaimed the Mother of the Church by Pope Paul VI... 1965 A.D.

As you can clearly see, crazylibertarian, empowered or not, a great many of your Popes did change, erase or add to the Words of Scripture. That is historically undeniable.

Throughout God's word, the Holy Canon of Scripture, adding anything to, or taking anything away from what God has said is absolutely condemned:

Deuteronomy 4:2 "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you."

Deuteronomy 12:32 "Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it."

Proverbs 30:6 "Do not add to His words Lest He reprove you, and you be proved a liar."

Isaiah 66:4 "So I will choose their punishments, And I will bring on them what they dread. Because I called, but no one answered; I spoke, but they did not listen. And they did evil in My sight, And chose that in which I did not delight."

Matthew 15:8-9 "This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men."

Revelation 22:16,18-19: "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book."



crazylibertarian wrote:
Congratulations on your terrific ability to distort. I will not rebut your entire posting item by item but will respond that no pope has ever been empowered to deny the words of the Bible. That is a gratuitous insult to the Catholic faith.

I did not divide Christians into Catholic & anti-Catholic.

I have no problem with singing and sermons. I stated that I do miss the actual ceremony of the mass. I am entitled to that. And I never stated anything about any service I have not witnessed.

Have you never seen the billboards with the pictures of the pastor & spouse? That verges, often, on a cult. We had, in NYC one who said on the radio.
"Send me a fin & I'll get you in." Tell me what you call that.

What church do you go to?
Congratulations on your terrific ability to distor... (show quote)

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Apr 22, 2018 09:07:13   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
I am an evangelical Christian, crazylibertarian, thank you for asking.

Contrary to your claim, I have distorted nothing.

Christianity is Christ; Not a Building, a Denomination, or an Institution! If Jesus Christ were not alive there would be no Christian faith because He is all that it offers. Christianity is not an impersonal religion but a personal relationship with the Living God who will never again die.

Evangelicalism, i.e., evangelical Christianity, is the 2,000 year old worldwide, cross-denominational Christianity which maintains the original belief that the essence of the Gospel consists of the doctrine of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ's atonement, exactly as written and taught in the Holy Scriptures of the Bible's New Testament.

The term Christian means "follower of Christ." Christian is the term given to followers of Jesus Christ in the first century A.D. (Acts 11:26). The term evangelical translates from the Greek word that means "good news." Evangelism is sharing the good news (gospel) of the salvation that is available through Jesus Christ. An evangelical is a Christian dedicated to proclaiming the "good news" of Jesus Christ.

An "evangelical Christian," therefore, is a believer and follower of Jesus Christ who faithfully shares and promotes the "good news," i.e., His gospel of Salvation as Jesus commanded we do; His Salvation which is available to all individuals who will believe and accept God's gift, as it is offered in Holy Scripture.

Evangelical Christians should never be sidetracked into abandoning our highest calling, that of sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ, as it is written.

Roman Catholic practitioners have been deprived by their church, of the assurance of salvation that God's word promises them, and are prey to the greedy doctrines of the purchase of prayers for their loved ones, after death, to remove them from "purgatory," and of indulgences to reduce their time in purgatory by days, or weeks... to release their loved ones souls to heaven. God has said in Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, lest any man should boast."


Below are the Historical Dates on which Catholic Popes used insidious Paganism to invade Christianity through Roman Catholicism.

The Apostle Peter warned of these greedy false leaders who would arise among you: "Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of the truth will be defamed. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed."(2nd Peter 2:2-3)

All of the following unbiblical, pagan Roman Catholic teachings and practices endorsed by ungodly Popes are to be found detailed and endorsed in either, and sometimes both of the official Roman Catholic publications: The Catholic Encyclopedia, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Included are the dates by which they were officially adopted by Catholic councils and/or proclaimed "dogmas of faith" by the Pope of that date.

None of these practices were ever commanded by God as they are not even mentioned in His Holy Word. They are men's traditions, and have all been traced back to pre-Christian pagan religions; thus, they are formed from power hungry men's religious rebellions against God, in combination with a false interpretation of God's revelation in His Holy Word, all assimilated into Roman Catholicism, creating the unholy "mixture," or "strange fire upon the altar" in worship, that God says He abhors:


Presbyters, or elders, were first called priests by Lucian... 2nd century A.D.
Prayers for the dead... 300 A.D.
The veneration of angels and dead saints and the use of images... 375 A.D.
The Mass as a daily celebration was adopted... 394 A.D.
The beginning of the exaltation of Mary, and the first use of the term "Mother of God:" by the Council of Ephesus... 431 A.D.
Priests began to dress different from the laity and to wear special clothes... 500 A.D.
Extreme Unction... 526 A.D.
The doctrine of purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great... 593 A.D.
Prayers began to be offered to Mary, dead saints, and angels... 600 A.D.
The first man was proclaimed "Pope" (Boniface III)... 610 A.D.
Veneration of the cross, images, and relics authorized... 788 A.C.
Holy water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by a priest was authorized in... 850 A.D.
Veneration of Saint Joseph... 890 A.D.
College of cardinals begun... 927 A.D.
Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV... 995 A.D.
The Mass developed gradually as a sacrifice, attendance was made obligatory in... 11th century A.D.
The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by the Lateran Councils... 1123 A.D. and 1139 A.D.
The rosary, or prayer beads (copied from Hindus and Muslums) was introduced by Peter the Hermit... 1090 A.D.
The Inquisition of "Heretics" was instituted by Council of Verona - 1184 A.D., legalized, promoted by 4th Lateran Council l2l5 A.D.
The sale of indulgences... 1190 A.D.
The seven sacraments defined by Peter Lombard... 12th Century A.D.
The dogma of transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III... 1215 A.D.
Confession of sins to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III in the Lateran Council... 1215 A.D.
The adoration of the wafer (host) decreed by Pope Honorius III... 1220 A.D.
The scapular invented by Simon Stock of England... 1251 A.D.
The doctrine of purgatory proclaimed a dogma by the Council of Florence... 1439 A.D.
Tradition is declared of equal authority with the Bible by the Council of Trent... 1545 A.D.
The Apocryphal Books were added to the Bible by the Council of Trent... 1546 A.D.
The Immaculate Conception of Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX in 1854 A.D.
Pope Pius IX condemns all scientific discoveries not approved by the Roman Church... 1864 A.D.
Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals proclaimed by the First Vatican Council... 1870\tab A.D.
Pius XI condemned the public schools... 1930 A.D.
Pius XI reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "The Mother of God"... 1931 A.D.
The dogma of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII... 1950 A.D.
Mary was proclaimed the Mother of the Church by Pope Paul VI... 1965 A.D.

As you can clearly see, crazylibertarian, empowered or not, a great many of your Popes did change, erase or add to the Words of Scripture. That is historically undeniable.

Throughout God's word, the Holy Canon of Scripture, adding anything to, or taking anything away from what God has said is absolutely condemned:

Deuteronomy 4:2 "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you."

Deuteronomy 12:32 "Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it."

Proverbs 30:6 "Do not add to His words Lest He reprove you, and you be proved a liar."

Isaiah 66:4 "So I will choose their punishments, And I will bring on them what they dread. Because I called, but no one answered; I spoke, but they did not listen. And they did evil in My sight, And chose that in which I did not delight."

Matthew 15:8-9 "This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men."

Revelation 22:16,18-19: "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book."
I am an evangelical Christian, crazylibertarian, t... (show quote)


Amen and Amen, excellent as always, I sure wish that I had your recall and ability to write as you do. I just use simple terms, and try to recall my teachings, but you do so so eloquently. With me, it is thank God for spell checker.

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Apr 22, 2018 10:11:10   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Kind of kissed the blarney stone there, didn't you bahmer?

Thank you for your kind words, but I actually appreciate your concise, "no words wasted" commenting style.

It's a "the truth, and nothing but the truth" approach. I use too many words, which is tiresome for readers.

I'm going over to your comment on not being enamored with the thought of "parachuting" (which I noticed earlier) to add my own experience to that topic... and yes, in a bygone era, I have voluntarily (with parachute) jumped out of an airplane.


bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen, excellent as always, I sure wish that I had your recall and ability to write as you do. I just use simple terms, and try to recall my teachings, but you do so so eloquently. With me, it is thank God for spell checker.

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Apr 22, 2018 10:25:39   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
Kind of kissed the blarney stone there, didn't you bahmer?

Thank you for your kind words, but I actually appreciate your concise, "no words wasted" commenting style.

It's a "the truth, and nothing but the truth" approach. I use too many words, which is tiresome for readers.

I'm going over to your comment on not being enamored with the thought of "parachuting" (which I noticed earlier) to add my own experience to that topic... and yes, in a bygone era, I have voluntarily (with parachute) jumped out of an airplane.
Kind of kissed the blarney stone there, didn't you... (show quote)


I always love your posts have a great day Zemirah.

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Apr 22, 2018 10:28:12   #
Radiance3
 
Zemirah wrote:
Kind of kissed the blarney stone there, didn't you bahmer?

Thank you for your kind words, but I actually appreciate your concise, "no words wasted" commenting style.

It's a "the truth, and nothing but the truth" approach. I use too many words, which is tiresome for readers.

I'm going over to your comment on not being enamored with the thought of "parachuting" (which I noticed earlier) to add my own experience to that topic... and yes, in a bygone era, I have voluntarily (with parachute) jumped out of an airplane.
Kind of kissed the blarney stone there, didn't you... (show quote)

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God is God. He has endless bound of patience.
Your readers are human with no patience.

"Patience is a virtue." We're all familiar with that cliché, and many of us know that patience is listed by Paul in Galatians 5:22-23 as among the fruit of the Spirit

Here are the other virtues of Catholic faith:
Other moral virtues are:
1. Humility (Mt 18:1-5) means humble
2. Patience (Heb 10:36-37), means forbearance
3. Obedience (Rom 13:1-7), means submission to authority
4. Chastity (1 Cor 6:15-20), means virginity
5. Piety (Eph 5:15-20), means reverence
6. Veracity (Eph 4:15, 25), means truthful

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Apr 22, 2018 13:17:34   #
malachi
 
Zemirah wrote:
I am an evangelical Christian, crazylibertarian, thank you for asking.

Contrary to your claim, I have distorted nothing.

Christianity is Christ; Not a Building, a Denomination, or an Institution! If Jesus Christ were not alive there would be no Christian faith because He is all that it offers. Christianity is not an impersonal religion but a personal relationship with the Living God who will never again die.

Evangelicalism, i.e., evangelical Christianity, is the 2,000 year old worldwide, cross-denominational Christianity which maintains the original belief that the essence of the Gospel consists of the doctrine of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ's atonement, exactly as written and taught in the Holy Scriptures of the Bible's New Testament.

The term Christian means "follower of Christ." Christian is the term given to followers of Jesus Christ in the first century A.D. (Acts 11:26). The term evangelical translates from the Greek word that means "good news." Evangelism is sharing the good news (gospel) of the salvation that is available through Jesus Christ. An evangelical is a Christian dedicated to proclaiming the "good news" of Jesus Christ.

An "evangelical Christian," therefore, is a believer and follower of Jesus Christ who faithfully shares and promotes the "good news," i.e., His gospel of Salvation as Jesus commanded we do; His Salvation which is available to all individuals who will believe and accept God's gift, as it is offered in Holy Scripture.

Evangelical Christians should never be sidetracked into abandoning our highest calling, that of sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ, as it is written.

Roman Catholic practitioners have been deprived by their church, of the assurance of salvation that God's word promises them, and are prey to the greedy doctrines of the purchase of prayers for their loved ones, after death, to remove them from "purgatory," and of indulgences to reduce their time in purgatory by days, or weeks... to release their loved ones souls to heaven. God has said in Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, lest any man should boast."


Below are the Historical Dates on which Catholic Popes used insidious Paganism to invade Christianity through Roman Catholicism.

The Apostle Peter warned of these greedy false leaders who would arise among you: "Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of the truth will be defamed. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed."(2nd Peter 2:2-3)

All of the following unbiblical, pagan Roman Catholic teachings and practices endorsed by ungodly Popes are to be found detailed and endorsed in either, and sometimes both of the official Roman Catholic publications: The Catholic Encyclopedia, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Included are the dates by which they were officially adopted by Catholic councils and/or proclaimed "dogmas of faith" by the Pope of that date.

None of these practices were ever commanded by God as they are not even mentioned in His Holy Word. They are men's traditions, and have all been traced back to pre-Christian pagan religions; thus, they are formed from power hungry men's religious rebellions against God, in combination with a false interpretation of God's revelation in His Holy Word, all assimilated into Roman Catholicism, creating the unholy "mixture," or "strange fire upon the altar" in worship, that God says He abhors:


Presbyters, or elders, were first called priests by Lucian... 2nd century A.D.
Prayers for the dead... 300 A.D.
The veneration of angels and dead saints and the use of images... 375 A.D.
The Mass as a daily celebration was adopted... 394 A.D.
The beginning of the exaltation of Mary, and the first use of the term "Mother of God:" by the Council of Ephesus... 431 A.D.
Priests began to dress different from the laity and to wear special clothes... 500 A.D.
Extreme Unction... 526 A.D.
The doctrine of purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great... 593 A.D.
Prayers began to be offered to Mary, dead saints, and angels... 600 A.D.
The first man was proclaimed "Pope" (Boniface III)... 610 A.D.
Veneration of the cross, images, and relics authorized... 788 A.C.
Holy water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by a priest was authorized in... 850 A.D.
Veneration of Saint Joseph... 890 A.D.
College of cardinals begun... 927 A.D.
Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV... 995 A.D.
The Mass developed gradually as a sacrifice, attendance was made obligatory in... 11th century A.D.
The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by the Lateran Councils... 1123 A.D. and 1139 A.D.
The rosary, or prayer beads (copied from Hindus and Muslums) was introduced by Peter the Hermit... 1090 A.D.
The Inquisition of "Heretics" was instituted by Council of Verona - 1184 A.D., legalized, promoted by 4th Lateran Council l2l5 A.D.
The sale of indulgences... 1190 A.D.
The seven sacraments defined by Peter Lombard... 12th Century A.D.
The dogma of transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III... 1215 A.D.
Confession of sins to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III in the Lateran Council... 1215 A.D.
The adoration of the wafer (host) decreed by Pope Honorius III... 1220 A.D.
The scapular invented by Simon Stock of England... 1251 A.D.
The doctrine of purgatory proclaimed a dogma by the Council of Florence... 1439 A.D.
Tradition is declared of equal authority with the Bible by the Council of Trent... 1545 A.D.
The Apocryphal Books were added to the Bible by the Council of Trent... 1546 A.D.
The Immaculate Conception of Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX in 1854 A.D.
Pope Pius IX condemns all scientific discoveries not approved by the Roman Church... 1864 A.D.
Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals proclaimed by the First Vatican Council... 1870\tab A.D.
Pius XI condemned the public schools... 1930 A.D.
Pius XI reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "The Mother of God"... 1931 A.D.
The dogma of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII... 1950 A.D.
Mary was proclaimed the Mother of the Church by Pope Paul VI... 1965 A.D.

As you can clearly see, crazylibertarian, empowered or not, a great many of your Popes did change, erase or add to the Words of Scripture. That is historically undeniable.

Throughout God's word, the Holy Canon of Scripture, adding anything to, or taking anything away from what God has said is absolutely condemned:

Deuteronomy 4:2 "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you."

Deuteronomy 12:32 "Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it."

Proverbs 30:6 "Do not add to His words Lest He reprove you, and you be proved a liar."

Isaiah 66:4 "So I will choose their punishments, And I will bring on them what they dread. Because I called, but no one answered; I spoke, but they did not listen. And they did evil in My sight, And chose that in which I did not delight."

Matthew 15:8-9 "This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men."

Revelation 22:16,18-19: "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book."
I am an evangelical Christian, crazylibertarian, t... (show quote)


Excellent! Should help the blind and deceived. Thanks much.

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