Are people who got here illegally and commit crime should get due process??? (Page 8): Thank You.

zillaorange

Loki wrote:

SCOTUS decision.
Zadvydas v. Davis (2001)

Thank You.

zillaorange

Morgan wrote:

I can and have but you should take the time and learn, maybe you'll find something to share with me.

I have already within this thread, go back and read my posts.

Morgan, read your previous statements, 1.) peter 11937; 2.) Super Dave: 3.) response to Loki. Your Constitutional references don't seem to back you up ! They do state to people born in America or naturalized citizens !!! Give me some PROOF !!! * Note: Will have to check out Loki's presented info, got to go stuff to do.

Morgan

Pennylynn wrote:

They should be forced to stand trial, depending on... (show quote)

I believe we are in agreement once again.

Morgan

zillaorange wrote:

Morgan, read your previous statements, 1.) peter 11937; 2.) Super Dave: 3.) response to Loki. Your Constitutional references don't seem to back you up ! They do state to people born in America or naturalized citizens !!! Give me some PROOF !!! * Note: Will have to check out Loki's presented info, got to go stuff to do.

I don't believe you bothered to read my posts or where I got the information,to even say what you just did. You're lazy and want to be spoon fed.

"The Constitution does distinguish in some respects between the rights of citizens and noncitizens: the right not to be discriminatorily denied the vote and the right to run for federal elective office are expressly restricted to citizens.12 All other rights, however, are written without such a limitation. The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment due process and equal protection guarantees extend to all "persons." The rights attaching to criminal trials, including the right to a public trial, a trial by jury, the assistance of a lawyer, and the right to confront adverse witnesses, all apply to "the accused." And both the First Amendment's protections of political and religious freedoms and the Fourth Amendment's protection of privacy and liberty apply to "the people." The fact that the Framers chose to limit to citizens only the rights to vote and to run for federal office is one indication that they did not intend other constitutional rights to be so limited. Accordingly, the Supreme Court has squarely stated that neither the First Amendment nor the Fifth Amendment "acknowledges any distinction between citizens and resident aliens."13 For more than a century, the Court has recognized that the Equal Protection Clause is "universal in [its] application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to differences of ... nationality."14 The Court has repeatedly stated that "the Due Process Clause applies to all 'persons' within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent."15 When noncitizens, no matter what their status, are tried for crimes, they are entitled to all of the rights that attach to the criminal process, without any distinction based on their nationality.

http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=facpub

zillaorange

Morgan wrote:

I don't believe you bothered to read my posts or where I got the information,to even say what you just did. You're lazy and want to be spoon fed.

"The Constitution does distinguish in some respects between the rights of citizens and noncitizens: the right not to be discriminatorily denied the vote and the right to run for federal elective office are expressly restricted to citizens.12 All other rights, however, are written without such a limitation. The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment due process and equal protection guarantees extend to all "persons." The rights attaching to criminal trials, including the right to a public trial, a trial by jury, the assistance of a lawyer, and the right to confront adverse witnesses, all apply to "the accused." And both the First Amendment's protections of political and religious freedoms and the Fourth Amendment's protection of privacy and liberty apply to "the people." The fact that the Framers chose to limit to citizens only the rights to vote and to run for federal office is one indication that they did not intend other constitutional rights to be so limited. Accordingly, the Supreme Court has squarely stated that neither the First Amendment nor the Fifth Amendment "acknowledges any distinction between citizens and resident aliens."13 For more than a century, the Court has recognized that the Equal Protection Clause is "universal in [its] application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to differences of ... nationality."14 The Court has repeatedly stated that "the Due Process Clause applies to all 'persons' within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent."15 When noncitizens, no matter what their status, are tried for crimes, they are entitled to all of the rights that attach to the criminal process, without any distinction based on their nationality.

http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=facpub

I don't believe you bothered to read my posts or w... (show quote)

At the time of your post, you said you already answered the question, YOU DID NOT !!! .I'll continue the following posts you made to see if ANY OF THEM ADDRESS MY 1st post. We'll see. I'll get back to you. BTW, the posts I mentioned were the ONLY 1s you put up !

Morgan

zillaorange wrote:

At the time of your post, you said you already answered the question, YOU DID NOT !!! .I'll continue the following posts you made to see if ANY OF THEM ADDRESS MY 1st post. We'll see. I'll get back to you. BTW, the posts I mentioned were the ONLY 1s you put up !

Please don't bother. Your question was in the right's of non-citizens and to supply a link, and which I was in no way obligated to do, but which I HAVE. I'm done with you go in your circles alone.

zillaorange

Morgan wrote:

I don't believe you bothered to read my posts or where I got the information,to even say what you just did. You're lazy and want to be spoon fed.

"The Constitution does distinguish in some respects between the rights of citizens and noncitizens: the right not to be discriminatorily denied the vote and the right to run for federal elective office are expressly restricted to citizens.12 All other rights, however, are written without such a limitation. The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment due process and equal protection guarantees extend to all "persons." The rights attaching to criminal trials, including the right to a public trial, a trial by jury, the assistance of a lawyer, and the right to confront adverse witnesses, all apply to "the accused." And both the First Amendment's protections of political and religious freedoms and the Fourth Amendment's protection of privacy and liberty apply to "the people." The fact that the Framers chose to limit to citizens only the rights to vote and to run for federal office is one indication that they did not intend other constitutional rights to be so limited. Accordingly, the Supreme Court has squarely stated that neither the First Amendment nor the Fifth Amendment "acknowledges any distinction between citizens and resident aliens."13 For more than a century, the Court has recognized that the Equal Protection Clause is "universal in [its] application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to differences of ... nationality."14 The Court has repeatedly stated that "the Due Process Clause applies to all 'persons' within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent."15 When noncitizens, no matter what their status, are tried for crimes, they are entitled to all of the rights that attach to the criminal process, without any distinction based on their nationality.

http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=facpub

I don't believe you bothered to read my posts or w... (show quote)

re: posts 15 April, I cited the previous posts. None contained the statement you made ! I'll continue on my linear path, pleased to be free of your presence !!! b safe