Are people who got here illegally and commit crime should get due process??? (Page 7): haven't had my coffee yet, bbl.

zillaorange

haven't had my coffee yet, bbl.

Morgan

Super Dave wrote:

You're apparently have no idea what I was replying... (show quote)

I know exactly what you're implying. People like me? Try staying on topic without personal assumptions and attacks that are usually wrong. You want to talk about abortion and the rights of a fetus, open up your own post, that's not what we're discussing here. Well, you can if you want, just not with me.

People like me, where am I pretending equal rights. Please give me an example.Another common attack with a twist.

And no that's not what I said, where did I also say the government should be in charge of everyone's healthcare?
What I said is that we should try and have private and public systems of healthcare and that moral issues goes to the individual unless they affect and well being of someone else, other words, do no harm.

Don't throw your anger at me over the abortion issue, you feel there is no control over, I haven't done anything wrong. You should let go of things not in your control. It is the woman's dilemma and choice, her conscience, her soul. If society teaches to value life more and chooses a course not out of fear, abortions will stop.

Morgan

PeterS wrote:

And how else would they be treated--waterboarded and then deported? What exactly are you proposing?

I think they'd be OK with that

Morgan

zillaorange wrote:

kindly provide me with Constitutionally accurate sources for your statement. I can't find an amendment that confirms this ! Besides, he claimed the U. S. of A. was a democracy. By the way have you read the "Federalist Papers" yourself ?

I'm sorry I'm not doing your research for you, simply look up the different forms of government, you'll find 5 basic forms along with democracy and its subcategories.

Yes I have read the Federalists papers(essays), the opinions of Hamilton, Madison and Page and not the end all of the constitution as even back then people had differences of opinions.

Realistic Rhoda

Morgan wrote:

Apparently, it is you who needs to do some learning on what a democracy is, it is the tree from which your Federal Republic is a branch.

I believe you are wrong Morgan. The founding fathers did not want a democracy because all prior democracies had failed. They wanted something different. That is why we were supposed to be a republic. Unfortunately, the republic the founding fathers envisioned did not last very long. Our so called Democracy is pretty close to failing. This is thanks to all who want one world order and open borders. These Progressive Liberals actually believe that if we just all love everyone the world will change and become the utopia that they envision. This is naive. They have left out the most important part of the equation...human nature. As long as there are those who will do anything to get power and control over others, there will be no utopia. When Democracy fails, Anarchy prevails.

zillaorange

Morgan wrote:

I'm sorry I'm not doing your research for you, simply look up the different forms of government, you'll find 5 basic forms along with democracy and its subcategories.

Yes I have read the Federalists papers(essays), the opinions of Hamilton, Madison and Page and not the end all of the constitution as even back then people had differences of opinions.

In other words you CANNOT provide a single, Constitutionally accurate, piece of material that defends your belief that the U. S. of A ' is some sort of democratic republic ? It's you who made the claim & you CANNOT provide any material to validate your claim !!! I'm asking for 1 source of info that backs up your claim. "you do the research" is a cop out !

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Super Dave wrote:

You're apparently have no idea what I was replying... (show quote)

Dave: morgan is an excellent example of lib sheep following the cultural communists cue to jump off the cliff!

Morgan

zillaorange wrote:

In other words you CANNOT provide a single, Constitutionally accurate, piece of material that defends your belief that the U. S. of A ' is some sort of democratic republic ? It's you who made the claim & you CANNOT provide any material to validate your claim !!! I'm asking for 1 source of info that backs up your claim. "you do the research" is a cop out !

I can and have but you should take the time and learn, maybe you'll find something to share with me.

I have already within this thread, go back and read my posts.

Morgan

ldsuttonjr wrote:

Dave: morgan is an excellent example of lib sheep following the cultural communists cue to jump off the cliff!

Once again you don't know what you're talking about and you have a clear case of Xenophobia.

Loki Loc: Georgia

PeterS wrote:

And how else would they be treated--waterboarded and then deported? What exactly are you proposing?

Waterboarding, torture? You mean AFTER they are convicted, right?

Realistic Rhoda

Morgan wrote:

Once again you don't know what you're talking about and you have a clear case of Xenophobia.

Well that explains it. Those who accuse others of Xenophobia are, in most cases, Progressive Liberals. Name calling is their stock in trade.

zillaorange

Loki wrote:

Unfortunately you are correct.

excuse me Loki, where did you get that info ? not busting chops, looking for material that supports the claim.

zillaorange

king hall wrote:

SCOTUS says it. hang on I'll find the ruling for you

king hall, have you found the ruling ? Not busting chops, looking for material for a legitimate pt. for the sake of rebutal.

Loki Loc: Georgia

zillaorange wrote:

excuse me Loki, where did you get that info ? not busting chops, looking for material that supports the claim.

SCOTUS decision.
Zadvydas v. Davis (2001)

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

Morgan wrote:

Apparently, it is you who needs to do some learning on what a democracy is, it is the tree from which your Federal Republic is a branch.

Democracy is a branch that serves our Republic.

Ex. There is a democratic vote for electors and Senators that share power within the Republic.