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Mar 28, 2018 07:39:34   #
debeda
 
whitnebrat wrote:
PostScript...
To those of you that have been watching this tennis match, what you have witnessed is the incremental trend of even 'reasonable' conservatives to resort to the more shrill and conspiratorial bases for their thinking when presented with logical and 'reasonable' alternatives to their issues. It's unfortunate, but that's the way they think and what they want, which was the original intent of the thread to display. They become 'unreasonable' when any progressive idea or 'Obama-created' theory is brought up. It's just a "what's so". Not all conservatives, but too many for my blood. As a 'middle of the road' observer of the political scene, the comment of Jim Hightower (former Texas Ag commissioner) applies: "The only thing in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead armadillos." I have given up in the face of bluster and 'unreason'. Thass' all, folks!
PostScript... br To those of you that have been wa... (show quote)


Okee dokee whineybrat

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Mar 28, 2018 13:48:26   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
whitnebrat wrote:
PostScript...
To those of you that have been watching this tennis match, what you have witnessed is the incremental trend of even 'reasonable' conservatives to resort to the more shrill and conspiratorial bases for their thinking when presented with logical and 'reasonable' alternatives to their issues. It's unfortunate, but that's the way they think and what they want, which was the original intent of the thread to display. They become 'unreasonable' when any progressive idea or 'Obama-created' theory is brought up. It's just a "what's so". Not all conservatives, but too many for my blood. As a 'middle of the road' observer of the political scene, the comment of Jim Hightower (former Texas Ag commissioner) applies: "The only thing in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead armadillos." I have given up in the face of bluster and 'unreason'. Thass' all, folks!
PostScript... br To those of you that have been wa... (show quote)


Sorry you feel that way. At least you debated civilly for a really long time before this ad hominem attack.

Hopefully you at least got a good laugh from the video clip.

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Mar 28, 2018 13:48:59   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
debeda wrote:
Okee dokee whineybrat


LOL.

But please, don't be too harsh on her, it's a real shock to the system to discover the people you've admired your whole life are actually evil beyond imagination. I view that last, unfortunate, outburst of hers as the beginning stages of her grief.

On the plus side, she can't unlearn what I've taught her. And she's smart. She'll come around eventually.

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Mar 28, 2018 14:24:30   #
debeda
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
LOL.

But please, don't be too harsh on her, it's a real shock to the system to discover the people you've admired your whole life are actually evil beyond imagination. I view that last, unfortunate, outburst of hers as the beginning stages of her grief.

On the plus side, she can't unlearn what I've taught her. And she's smart. She'll come around eventually.


Oooh good plan

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Mar 28, 2018 15:44:16   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
Sorry you feel that way. At least you debated civilly for a really long time before this ad hominem attack.

Hopefully you at least got a good laugh from the video clip.

It wasn't ad-hominem. It was the result of a continued assault on my ideas and solutions. At the end, I could see no value in continuing the debate. In actuality, a debate usually means that both sides were discussed rationally and an attempt at compromise is tried. In this case, I felt that neither criteria was accomplished.
As to the Post-script, it was my observation that when confronted with facts and ideas that can't be argued, bluster is employed.
“When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on your side, pound the table.” I felt that you had started pounding the table, so I withdrew.

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Mar 28, 2018 15:50:05   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
LOL.

But please, don't be too harsh on her, it's a real shock to the system to discover the people you've admired your whole life are actually evil beyond imagination. I view that last, unfortunate, outburst of hers as the beginning stages of her grief.
On the plus side, she can't unlearn what I've taught her. And she's smart. She'll come around eventually.

You're assuming facts not in evidence. I probably won't come around to your way of thinking ... I do have a degree of intelligence, and I would have to ignore that in order to ascribe credence to many of your points of view.
As to the grief, I attribute that to the policies that seem to be being implemented and the end result as I see it which means the destruction of the way of life that I grew up with.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-blazak-white-men-racist-violence_us_5ab2b976e4b008c9e5f3bf69

I sincerely hope that this isn't true, but all the evidence that I have seen says it is. Therefore I am sad.

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Mar 28, 2018 17:05:54   #
vernon
 
whitnebrat wrote:
I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of our current president. I wasn't particularly enthused by the loser in the last election, either.
I've tried to wrap my head around what either party wants to do in terms of the direction that we're headed. I don't have a clue about actual programs, but I do have a theory about where the Conservatives want to take the country.
If you strip away all the rhetoric and theatrics, and nail them down to absolute basics, here is what I think you find.
They want to make the country into a mono-racial, mono-cultural, mono-theistic, male-dominated nation. Mono-racial means whites only. Mono-cultural means European-descended social norms. Mono-theistic means protestant Christian majority and theology, with these values descending into the law of the land. Male-dominated reverts back to the old days of a paternalistic government, based on the male of the household being the ruler of the roost and sole breadwinner.
Lots of these values are based on Biblical standards.
In this utopia, they would oust all minorities including Jews, Muslims, Asians and blacks. Gays and lesbians would be forced back into the closet behind last year's shoe styles. Women's rights would be curtailed.
I may be wrong, but it sure looks like this from an objective viewpoint.

If you're conservative and if you strip away all the overlay, is this what you truly believe?
I'm sure that many of you will try to argue the cosmetics of this ideology, but can you really and truly argue that these basics aren't what you would feel most comfortable with?

On the other hand, the true liberals would give away the store and their policies would ultimately lead to socialism and all the attendant ills that accompany that thinking. Things like a guaranteed minimum income for everyone, a liberal immigration policy, a politically correct culture for all, and a few other items that I wouldn't agree with. In its own way it's just as offensive as the conservative construct.

There has to be a common ground that we all can agree on, but unless we can start to agree on something and put aside the sniping and name-calling and talk about issues instead of stereotypes, we'll continue to be a divided country that will eventually fracture.
I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of our current presi... (show quote)


Your title should read what conservatives really Want as told by a demoRAT

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