bylm1-Bernie

The trouble with you libs, Kev, is that you skip over the obvious. The signs warning about radar cams are designed to keep people from breaking the law. Most do it unintentionally. Warning illegal aliens to lie low is trying to help people who have already broken the law from being caught. How does it feel to be on the wrong side of the law? Your arguments are too stupid for words.

Liberty Tree

All true!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

They may not have an obligation to enforce immigration law but they damn sure have an obligation to follow the law of the land!!

Go back to bed , get up on thr other side, see if you bring ligic with you this time...

Come on Kevvy this is a joke right??

guitarman Loc: University Park, Florida

They all know they are bucking Federal Immigration law. They should all get the maximum time in prison.

kankune Loc: Iowa

What about the illegal in Denver??? Hit and run, driving under the influence. He left a man to burn in his truck. The man died! Goes to jail, posts bond, gets out. They notify ICE after he has been released. We all know damn well this illegal is not going to show up for his court date in April. He's back out on the streets to do it all over again.

What is wrong with the Police Dept in Denver??? And yes, whomever freed him before they called ICE needs to be thrown in jail and the key thrown away. He/She is aiding and abetting and it is a crime!!

kankune Loc: Iowa

NO...the majority of Americans DO NOT support it Kevvie. So quit saying they do.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Once again you demonstrate your complete inability to recognize that you can't compare apples and walnuts. The police are free to set up their speed traps anywhere and they do not have a legal right to harvest X number of speeders. The owner of the land can post any sign that is legal within the town zoning laws he likes, it's called free speech. If a sign warning of a speed trap causes drivers to slow down to legal limits it has achieved the same goal that the police do when they light them up with their radars. If the motorist persists then the police have caught a driver that is truly indifferent to public safety. A speeder who slows down ceases to commit a misdemeanor crime but the illegal alien remains a criminal, in violation of US law.

These aliens have entered this country illegally which is a crime. State and local government are not being asked to enforce Federal law,, in most cases they are enforcing their own law, which put the illegal alien into their possession. These known criminals, with additional felonies, should not be turned loose but ICE should be notified to collect them and retain them in Federal custody until disposition. The cities, towns and states are still part of the United states and a crime against the United states affects all, not just Californians or any of the other declared sanctuaries.

Up here in the Northeast we have been plagued by hordes of illegals who have not been deported. The Federal government has been as much to blame as local governments. It has become such a problem that cities like Hazleton Pennsylvania, which became notorious when they attempted to remove the illegals, ran into every kind of roadblock, legal and societal, possible. Holder's DOJ was going to prosecute the City of Hazelton for enforcing Federal law. Hazelton became the poster-child for the anti-alien invasion and was widely emulated even in San Bernadino CA. https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/hazleton-immigration-ordinance-began-bang-goes-out-whimper

The Supreme court refused to hear the case brought against Hazelton's anti-illegals ordinances, which allowed the lower court rulings (which made law) to stand. This doomed efforts to keep aliens out of Hazelton. Ten years after the brouhaha there is peace in Hazelton. Virtually all of the long time citizen residents have moved out and been replaced with illegals, including the mayor. Hazelton is now known as "Mexico City Del Norte",

Finally, there is a vast difference between putting up a sign warning motorists who might be speeding, thereby committing a misdemeanor and deliberately broadcasting confidential information that the Federal government is planning to mass arrest illegal-alien, convicted felons, for deportation. Information, which was provided for law enforcement safety issues, was deliberately used to thwart the Federal Government lawful round-up and arrest of these criminal aliens. This is not free speech, it is aiding and abetting criminals and is a crime in itself.

mactheknife

Wrong on at least two counts, Kevyn. State and many local, elected officials must swear an "oath of allegiance", which commonly requires allegiance to the Constitution of the US. The Constitution is the ultimate law of the land and it clearly states that immigration and border security are Federal responsibilities. There is no constitutional provision for the states to assume that role, period. Secondly, Federal law trumps state law particularly with regards to immigration so that these officials are breaking the law and they must be held accountable. Laws are what "civilize" a society so that anyone who thinks that they can ignore existing law for political expediency is not only a criminal but is also "uncivilized". Most of us knew that about the left anyway. While you may relish being uncivilized I object because your action endangers me, my family, and my fellow citizens. I have seen the respect for the law (and hence our civilization) degrade so much over the last 40+ years that I have lived in this wonderful country, particularly because of the activities of the left that I hardly recognize the place. Now, it seems that law-abiding (civilized) folks are living amongst a horde of savages. I hope that this clears up a moral dilemma for you. In conclusion, I think that Mr. Sessions needs to start arresting these wayward local and state officials starting with Jerry Brown so that they can have they day in court as guaranteed by the constitution; the very document that they are not willing to recognize on other matters.

Kevyn

If I see someone speeding on the highway I have no obligation to stop or even report them. Ignoring them or inaction is not aiding and abetting. State and local authorities have no obligation to enforce federal immigration law or assist the feds in doing so. It is simply not their job or concern. Communities within the same state routinely release people wanted on petty warrants in other jurisdictions due to the cost of housing or transporting them. They have no obligation to check a persons immigration status or notify other agencies of anything.

Kevyn

You realize that you contradicted yourself making my point, read what you wrote.

bylm1-Bernie

I've got to hand it to you, Kevyn, you're doing your level best to try to appear blind to what is so obvious. I have called police a few times when I've seen someone driving dangerously or weaving around as if drunk. I have even followed some to get a license number in an effort to help. Maybe you don't think that way, I don't know, but most people I know would go above and beyond to prevent a tragedy. No obligation need be felt. Perhaps you don't see a distinction between petty misdeeds and murder, I don't know that either, but I really feel sorry for those who care more about protecting the guilty than the innocent. I guess enraged would be a better word than sorry. That liberal label must be pretty important to you to avoid risking it in such a way. Too bad.

goofball Loc: timbucktoo

More communist reteric! from the Kev!

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I do hope that Kevyn manages to read your post so he can see that those local authorities are aiding and abetting criminals. Those who are here without permission are criminals and those locals who are helping them are disobeying federal laws. Of course votes for Democrats are very important so Kev would not be able to see that they are all criminals. He is among those who think they should be allowed to vote although laws say only citizens can vote.

So many of the left really do believe that they can help their parties win elections if illegals are allowed to vote.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Kevyn, it seems to me that you are talking some real good California Democrat talk when you try to defend them for not housing illegals because it costs too much money. However, will you talk like that when we discuss the duties of the US to hand those people money for whatever purpose when they are acting like they always do? I don't think that you of the left lean really understand that paying them for not doing what they legally should be doing is pretty stupid and I can't wait for the US to stop doing that.

Does the fact that California borders on Mexico allow them to make all the rules about who can come into their state sensible? If so, does the US determining what they can do with American money not make sense? I love you guys playing so dumb but not really. If sanctuary areas can refuse to help the US enforce their laws that have to do with immigration then why could the US have to continue to pay them any money? Both levels of government are enforcing laws and that has to be done with taxpayer money. I do not want to see my money going to sanctuary areas, but that is what happens when the US has to share its money with them.

You do understand that ICE merely asks the locals to keep suspected criminals a few days for them, don't you? When they refuse I think they are refusing to take federal money. Is your thinking along these lines affected by the Obama noise about redistribution of wealth?

bylm1-Bernie

I've got news for you Roy. Kevyn's thinking is sort of like CNN's and MSNBC's thinking - it ignores anything that doesn't further the leftist agenda.