straightUp Loc: California

You said... other countries don't take responsibility for the down trodden, then you point out that we can see what happens to other countries when they take them in. So which is it?


Most homicides in this country are committed by U.S. citizens. So does that mean all U.S. citizens are dangerous? Should we just deport everybody? Gotta say kk, that's a bigoted statement if there ever as one.


Should I assume you meant to say that you don't think the U.S. CAN handle anymore refugees? If so, what are you basing this on? Or is this just another emotional outburst?



Sure, but any of these gripes are just as applicable to U.S. citizens, including food stamps and over weight kids, so again it get's back to bigotry, something that you still don't have the guts to admit to.

kankune Loc: Iowa

Here's what you don't have the guts to admit. That you are a bigot to the American Citizens. Why don't you just say it. You would take an illegal over a US citizen any day of the week. Quit with your BS and just be honest about who's side you're really on instead of pussy footing around the issue. One thing I can't stand is a sanctimonious
a$$ hole....

straightUp Loc: California

Sure, I can be an asshole... I'll admit that, but only toward people that I see are hurtful to others, so it makes sense that those people will view me as a sanctimonious. Don't worry, I'm not offended. ;)

As for where I stand, what is there to admit to that I haven't already? I judge people case-by-case. That's the difference between us. You are willing to condemn an entire demographic based on their worst examples AND a lot of hearsay. I'm not. My issue isn't with "American Citizens" my issue is specifically with bigots (people who are willing to condemn an entire demographic based on their worst examples AND a lot of hearsay). So it doesn't matter if they are American citizens or not, in fact most American citizens, as far as I can tell, aren't bigots at all.

Again, I judge people case-by-case. Some immigrants are dangerous, most aren't. Some US citizens are bigots, most aren't.

On more thing... what I admire most about our nation is the concept of being a "land of the free, home of the brave". That line from our national anthem means a lot to me because it's a reference to the courage it takes to live in a free country. That means having the courage to let other people be free. THAT means accepting the risk that some of those other people will take advantage, maybe even to your detriment. It means accepting the competition and having to work harder to stay on top. These things take courage without which freedom is lost.

Building walls obstructs freedom and hiding behind them is not courageous.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"It means accepting the competition and having to work harder to stay on top. These things take courage without which freedom is lost.

Building walls obstructs freedom and hiding behind them is not courageous." - sUp

Tell that to your fellow Brits and Christian Europe; that didn't figure out what was going on until it was to late.

straightUp Loc: California

Eagle, the Brits had a wall long before America was even discovered. It was named after the Roman Emperor who built it, Hadrian. They even built another (less famous one) a few years later. Both walls were designed to keep the savages out. Sound familiar?



These walls only worked for as long as the Roman Empire could afford to enforce it, after that the "savages" came anyway, the Vikings and Saxons etc... eventually interbreeding with the Celtic Britons and creating the Anglo-Saxon (otherwise known as English) race.

If you think that's all ancient and irrelevant, there are plenty of other walls the Europeans built... we can have a look at the Berlin Wall for instance that Reagan famously urged Gorbachev to tear down. Remember that? Or if you want something more recent, we can look at any number of walls the Europeans have been been building in the last decade. My favorite example is the Norwegian wall along their border with Russia. It's 660 feet long and about 2 kilometers from a pre-existing Russian wall, that extends their entire border with Norway AND Finland. Many Norwegians view their new wall as a joke because it's redundant and it's too short to really be effective, but the government spent a lot of money on that wall anyway for what many see as a political stunt to appease a Norwegian minority of anti-immigration nuts. Sound familiar?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37577547

Moral of the story... walls are a joke. They require constant funding and they ultimately fail as does every effort humans have ever made to segregate themselves.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Walls fail when government "leadership" doesn't use the wall/border protections.
Western Europe figured that out too late.

The NWO plan goes back to at least the late 1800's:
Top Illuminati Grand Wizard: “We Control Islam and We'll Use It to Destroy the West.” (WW3)
https://youtu.be/0dXD2H0m74g
(For the root of the planning, go to minute 6)

Inside this ''Illuminati Temple'' will shock you! (R$E)
https://youtu.be/uuT_4XElXOU

straightUp Loc: California

And what makes you think a Trump wall would be any different? The majority of Americans don't want to waste money on it - that's not exactly long term insurance.



Just so you know, I'm not at all curious about the conspiracy plugs you always attach to your posts, so unless you have a specific point, I ignore them.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"Just so you know, I'm not at all curious about the conspiracy plugs you always attach to your posts, so unless you have a specific point, I ignore them." - sUp

Just so you know. I do not post them for you.
That would be a waste of time.

straightUp Loc: California

Yes, it would ;)

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

I am here to inform others of what your BS entails.
The typical liberal hypocrisy, and other misconceptions.

straightUp Loc: California

I see... well, you certainly are an arsenal of misconceptions eagle... and I agree, "liberal hypocrisy" is certainly one of them. ;)

kankune Loc: Iowa

That's the difference between us. You are willing to condemn an entire demographic based on their worst examples AND a lot of hearsay. I'm not. My issue isn't with "American Citizens" my issue is specifically with bigots (people who are willing to condemn an entire demographic based on their worst examples AND a lot of hearsay). So it doesn't matter if they are American


So are you for gun control? If you are ...you are doing exactly as you stated above..so people who believe in control are bigots....

Gatsby

Mankind has been building walls for many thousands of years, if they didnt serve a purpose, why would we keep building them?

straightUp Loc: California

What are you calling gun control?

kankune Loc: Iowa

Are you for our government breaking our 2nd amendment rights, and banning the AR-15, rifles, Glocks, handguns, 22's, pellet guns, paintball guns, and whatever gun they see fit to take from us. Do you own gun/guns??