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Mar 5, 2018 17:10:38   #
Nickolai
 
bdamage wrote:
Your version of the story doesn't add up Nicki.

And whether it was the "local citizens", farming industry, or local gov and law enforcement.....they wouldn't dare jack with any us if they know we are armed and not afraid to defend ourselves.

Dude, the 1930's called and they'd like you to time-travel back to that decade, knowing you are unarmed and would easily be forced into the Okie-migrant boxcar.

Here's what I read about it:


Farm Labor in the 1930s



During the 1930s, some 1.3 million Americans from the Midwest and southwest migrated to California, which had a population of 5.7 million in 1930s. The arrival of Okies and Arkies set the stage for physical and ideological conflicts over how to deal with seasonal farm labor and produced literature that resonates decades later, as students read and watch "The Grapes of Wrath" and farmers and advocates continue to argue over how to obtain and treat seasonal farm workers.

Carey McWilliams once said that farm labor in California has "been lost sight of and rediscovered time and again." (quoted in Loftis, p191) Three recent books make important contributions to our understanding of farm labor issues in the 1930s. Interestingly, two of the three are not about farm workers: instead, they focus on the people who interpreted the California farm labor story of the 1930s.
Source:
https://migration.ucdavis.edu/rmn/more.php?id=788
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When John Steinbeck wrote The Grapes Of Wrath in 1937 we were living in labor camps near Clovis California My mother, father, one year old sister, uncle. grand father and step grandmother were all in the same camp, similar to the Joad family. Stienbeck was traveling up and down the San Joaquin valley with Okie families studying their circumstance and tunning into their style of speech and regional accents he captured that perfectly. He was from Salinas but after the book wad published he was ostracized to such an extent for the way he portrayed California farmers he moved to Monterey. Today the City of Salinas has an anual Stienbeck festival and a Muesum where all of his books can be purchased. Audio readings of them are available as well as film clips of those books made into movies. It was in this Museum that I discovered that in 1936 near Salinas the Lettuce pickers were Mecicans and Filippinos the packing sheds were manned by migrant Okies, they were threatenuing a wildcat strike for higher pay. The Lettuce growers association put in a call to the Pinkerton Agency in Chicago for help. A group of them boarded a train in Chicago, got off in Salinas tracked down five men and beat them to death in the streets of Salinas.

No body was ever arrested for their murders because these men were landless peasants, like my parents, who were Tennant farmers, share croppers, these kind of people never counted or had any rights and in fact could not vote or serve on juries untill mid 19 th century or thereabouts. In fact in every labor dispute government always came down on the side of Capital in every case untill the FDR New Dealers passed the National labor relations act in 1935. The sign is at Arvin, The Hooverville is in Oakland, and the migrant mother is by Dorthea Lange the most iconic photo of the California migrants







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Mar 5, 2018 17:12:57   #
kcstargoat
 
Kevyn wrote:
The Pumpkinfuhrer has joined other nutters in suggesting that arming teachers will keep schools safer, let’s look at this proposal realistically. There are about 130,000 schools in the country and almost four million teachers. If you armed a quarter of them this would distribute a million firearms over the schools putting about 9 guns on average in each school. Of those million guns how many will be lost, stolen from a teachers desk, locker, car or purse? How many teachers in physical altercations with students will be disarmed? This happens to police officers all too often. Will a couple of those teachers of the million go off their rocker and become a shooter themselves? It is insane to think that dumping a million guns into our schools would save more people from assault weapon massacres than it would kill by accident, misuse or theft.
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You have what is called a "bucket" opinion. Fill the buckets too much and it will spill over. I agree with you that arming teachers who are hardly credible in the handling of firearms is an insane idea. It's a knee jerk reaction to isolated incidents. How about we hire security guards?

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Mar 5, 2018 20:04:16   #
Nickolai
 
S. Maturin wrote:
Your view is, at the very least, skewed. Those who know say tens of thousands, and possibly hundreds of thousands illegals voted and some more than once.



Well your sources are wrong such a thing has never happened except in the minds of conspiracy theorists and nut cases. ur biggest problem is with Republican gerrymandering districts and suppressing the Democratic vote

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Mar 5, 2018 20:17:18   #
Nickolai
 
Loki wrote:
You don't need one today. A fake drivers license will work just fine.






A fake drivers license wont work A person cant get register to vote with a fake drivers license all those things are good for is to show a prospective employer . I've seen those things when I was hiring Mexicans they are easy to spot. I received notice from the SS administration that it appeared I had employees who were using the SS numbers of others and were paying into their accounts that's all they could do since they are not law enforcement

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Mar 6, 2018 02:31:31   #
S. Maturin
 
kcstargoat wrote:
You have what is called a "bucket" opinion. Fill the buckets too much and it will spill over. I agree with you that arming teachers who are hardly credible in the handling of firearms is an insane idea. It's a knee jerk reaction to isolated incidents. How about we hire security guards?


"Arm teachers" is totally wrong. It connotes something meaning all teachers will be forced to possess and carry firearms. That, as you noted is insane. Instead, what we need to be advocating is that those teachers who wish to carry and agree to being trained should be encouraged to do so.

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Mar 6, 2018 14:45:12   #
zillaorange
 
[quote=Nickolai]Well your sources are wrong such a thing has never happened except in the minds of conspiracy theorists and nut cases. ur biggest problem is with Republican gerrymandering districts and suppressing the Democratic vot Many states grant non-citizens with drivers licences. Then they can register to vote, even though they're not entitled to !!! The dems seem to like this VERY MUCH !!!

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Mar 7, 2018 10:46:35   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Many teachers have been in the military and have excellent knowledge of firearms, they would help keep the loonies from killing us.

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Mar 8, 2018 06:54:33   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
S. Maturin wrote:
"Arm teachers" is totally wrong. It connotes something meaning all teachers will be forced to possess and carry firearms. That, as you noted is insane. Instead, what we need to be advocating is that those teachers who wish to carry and agree to being trained should be encouraged to do so.


Which is exactly what Trump and others have said~~

Half truths for the left and twisting facts is a norm.. I look at them and just have to “sigh”..
They arent that stupid, although certainly appear so when they write such nonsense..

C’est la vie~~

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Mar 8, 2018 06:55:46   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
cold iron wrote:
Many teachers have been in the military and have excellent knowledge of firearms, they would help keep the loonies from killing us.


Like S, too much logic will just cause them to go off the deep end~~

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