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Feb 20, 2018 23:36:54   #
EconomistDon
 
PeterS wrote:
Mexicans are seen as a threat by conservatives and Russian hackers are a welcome means of staying in power. Interesting the total disconnect that they are selling out their country to do so...


Fascist Pete, are you really that stupid? You say "Russian hackers are a welcome means of staying in power". The Mueller investigation has shown that the Russian hacking began by 2014 or earlier and had as much detrimental effect on Trump as on Hillary. They were stirring up trouble and discontent in general. READ Petey, and keep up. The Mueller team concludes that the Russian activity had no real effect on the election outcome. HOWEVER, we can be sure that illegal votes by millions of non-citizens DID have an effect on the outcome of the election. But Trump won anyway. So eat it fascist fool.

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Feb 21, 2018 04:43:56   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
Your welcoming of Mexican criminals and desire to amnesty them is the sellout. Even your precious Mueller has said that the influence of Russian hackers, NOT the Russian government had no effect on the election. Russia is not, at this point, our enemy. We have too much in common. This has not always been the case in the past and may not be the case in the future, but it IS the case right now.

What Mexican criminals am I welcoming and you think that Russian hackers weren't connected to the government? Right now Russia is closer to an authoritarian dictatorship than they are a democracy. Do you see us as an authoritarian dictatorship--is that what we have in common???

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Feb 21, 2018 04:46:44   #
PeterS
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Fascist Pete, are you really that stupid? You say "Russian hackers are a welcome means of staying in power". The Mueller investigation has shown that the Russian hacking began by 2014 or earlier and had as much detrimental effect on Trump as on Hillary. They were stirring up trouble and discontent in general. READ Petey, and keep up. The Mueller team concludes that the Russian activity had no real effect on the election outcome. HOWEVER, we can be sure that illegal votes by millions of non-citizens DID have an effect on the outcome of the election. But Trump won anyway. So eat it fascist fool.
Fascist Pete, are you really that stupid? You say... (show quote)

So your saying the Russians hacked our election to discredit both candidates? Before calling other stupid you really should make sure that what's coming out of your mouth doesn't prove projection on your part...

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Feb 21, 2018 11:00:42   #
EconomistDon
 
PeterS wrote:
What Mexican criminals am I welcoming and you think that Russian hackers weren't connected to the government? Right now Russia is closer to an authoritarian dictatorship than they are a democracy. Do you see us as an authoritarian dictatorship--is that what we have in common???


What we have in common with Russia is a huge arsenal of nuclear weapons. Either of our countries could destroy the world, and THAT requires very careful and constant attention. Russia is the absolute LAST country that we want to fight. So maybe you would like to reconsider Trump's desire to make friends with Russia. Also consider that Russia stood with us to fight a group of fascist countries called the Axis during WW2. Have you heard about WW2 and the fascists in Italy and Germany? Its apparent that your education is lacking, so I can go into further detail if you need.

Now lets compare Russia with Mexico. Russia is not flooding our country with illiterate, illegal immigrants who overload our welfare system and drive up our crime rates. Mexico is. Russia is not flooding our country with recreational drugs that are damaging our youth. Mexico is. Russia is not dumping illegal guns in our country. Mexico is. That makes Mexico a greater constant irritation than Russia.

And lets consider the election. What the Russians did was not illegal despite the Mueller charges. This is a free country; anyone can buy advertising time and support whatever political agenda they want. Is that any different than the crap paid for by left-wing actors in Hollywood, or the biased crap that came out of the left-wing mainstream media? NO. And don't forget Steyer who pledged $10 million to undermine Trump. That is legal in our free country, but far more despicable than anything the Russians did.

What was illegal in the election was millions of non-citizens from "Mexico" voting for Hillary. Please note that the Russians did not vote in our election. What was also illegal was Obama weaponizing the IRS, DOJ, and FBI against Trump. The FISA thing and wire-tapping Trump campaign staff is ugly stuff that is going to destroy Democrats when the whole truth is revealed.

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Feb 21, 2018 16:49:48   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Loki wrote:
Your welcoming of Mexican criminals and desire to amnesty them is the sellout. Even your precious Mueller has said that the influence of Russian hackers, NOT the Russian government had no effect on the election. Russia is not, at this point, our enemy. We have too much in common. This has not always been the case in the past and may not be the case in the future, but it IS the case right now.


What you say here is so much like what a political science professor often told us back in 1952 about the US and the USSR. He said the time is coming when we will probably see the two countries fighting most of the rest of the world in the war or wars because the time when China would lead all the non-white countries against us. It surely does seem to me that we are nearing that time and may be the reason why we don't go at each other today. I have to wonder just what happens when that time comes with South Korea, Japan and other oriental people have to choose sides. That man was seriously one of the most believed man of that college in subjects like this one.

Lets look at what could be happening. The Russians and the US do have most of the nuclear power of the world and the Russians are siding with Iran which is coming along in nuclear ability. Israel has a bunch of those things. And could be used to hold Iran off if a racial war should happen. As time passes I have to wonder if that professor was surely not right.

I wonder when various Congress critters will understand just what amnesty for all, or some of our, southern neighbors really will do for us.

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Feb 21, 2018 16:53:34   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
PeterS wrote:
What Mexican criminals am I welcoming and you think that Russian hackers weren't connected to the government? Right now Russia is closer to an authoritarian dictatorship than they are a democracy. Do you see us as an authoritarian dictatorship--is that what we have in common???


Great words from the very near radical left, Petey. I served as one of the people during the mid-50s who did the same illegal things to the Russian military in Europe that they did to us. Yep, spying was against international law but they were doing it to us and we had to stay ahead, or even with them. We were real enemies back then but I am not sure about now.

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Feb 21, 2018 16:59:01   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
PeterS wrote:
What Mexican criminals am I welcoming and you think that Russian hackers weren't connected to the government? Right now Russia is closer to an authoritarian dictatorship than they are a democracy. Do you see us as an authoritarian dictatorship--is that what we have in common???


We are not an authoritarian dictatorship, but we came very close when Hillary came too close to winning. She was an Obama person and he is a supporter of Soros so think about how lucky we really were that she didn't really campaign in the "rust belt".

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Feb 21, 2018 21:21:17   #
debeda
 
EconomistDon wrote:
What we have in common with Russia is a huge arsenal of nuclear weapons. Either of our countries could destroy the world, and THAT requires very careful and constant attention. Russia is the absolute LAST country that we want to fight. So maybe you would like to reconsider Trump's desire to make friends with Russia. Also consider that Russia stood with us to fight a group of fascist countries called the Axis during WW2. Have you heard about WW2 and the fascists in Italy and Germany? Its apparent that your education is lacking, so I can go into further detail if you need.

Now lets compare Russia with Mexico. Russia is not flooding our country with illiterate, illegal immigrants who overload our welfare system and drive up our crime rates. Mexico is. Russia is not flooding our country with recreational drugs that are damaging our youth. Mexico is. Russia is not dumping illegal guns in our country. Mexico is. That makes Mexico a greater constant irritation than Russia.

And lets consider the election. What the Russians did was not illegal despite the Mueller charges. This is a free country; anyone can buy advertising time and support whatever political agenda they want. Is that any different than the crap paid for by left-wing actors in Hollywood, or the biased crap that came out of the left-wing mainstream media? NO. And don't forget Steyer who pledged $10 million to undermine Trump. That is legal in our free country, but far more despicable than anything the Russians did.

What was illegal in the election was millions of non-citizens from "Mexico" voting for Hillary. Please note that the Russians did not vote in our election. What was also illegal was Obama weaponizing the IRS, DOJ, and FBI against Trump. The FISA thing and wire-tapping Trump campaign staff is ugly stuff that is going to destroy Democrats when the whole truth is revealed.
What we have in common with Russia is a huge arsen... (show quote)


Bravo Don!!!!!!!

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