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Communist Goals (1963)

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any
part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental
health clinics, etc.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies.
Treat all behavioural problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but
psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a
means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist
goals.

FULL INTERVIEW- VA Psychiatrist Exposes National Gun Confiscation Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ppVC6cTpxY

Vets told they can ‘buy back’ 2nd Amendment rights
http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/vets-told-they-can-buy-back-2nd-amendment-rights/

A Decade Later, Remember New Orleans … Gun Confiscation Can (and Has) Happened in America
http://www.nraila.org/articles/20150821/a-decade-later-remember-new-orleans-gun-confiscation-can-and-has-happened-in-america


Yes...............we are well aware of the problems....................apparently you're not!

Gun Control -- No matter what your opinion, you need to see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZo4hbGJjVI

Joseph Stalin:
“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.”

Joseph Stalin:
“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”

Mao Zedong, “Problems of War and Strategy”, 1938:
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

Nazi Law (Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons), 1938:
“Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority. Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew’s possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation. Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions will be punished with imprisonment and a fine.”

Adolf Hitler, April 1942:
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing.”
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William S. Burroughs, 1991:
“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.”

Orrin Hatch, “The Right to Keep and Bear Arms”:
“If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying — that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976 — establishes the repeated, complete and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime.”

Hubert Humphrey, “Know Your Lawmakers”, Guns magazine, February 1960:
“The right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.”

Richard Henry Lee, 1778:
“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” –

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” 
– Patrick Henry

“Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense?” – Patrick Henry

“Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property… Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.
” –Thomas Paine

“It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.” – Thomas Paine

“Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property… Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.
” –Thomas Paine

“The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong.” – Thomas Paine, “Thoughts on Defensive War”, July, 1775

“To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” – George Mason

“Those who beat their swords into plow-shares usually end up plowing for those who didn’t.
” – Ben Franklin

“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson

“A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.” –Thomas Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774

“The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” 
– Samuel Adams

“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
- George Washington

“The right of the people to keep and bear…arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia,
“(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people
“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government…” – Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist (#28)

“The Constitution preserves “the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation…(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” – James Madison, The Federalist, No. 46

of almost every other nation…(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” –James Madison

composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country…” 
–James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789)

“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” 
– Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers

“The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” 
– Noah Webster, “An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (1787)

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” – The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution

“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American…” – Tench Coxe 1788
http://www.infowars.com/proof-armed-citizens-make-good-government/
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"The tyranny of a prince in an oligarchy is not so dangerous to the public welfare as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy" .....[or a Republic] Charles de Montesquieu　 French Philosopher 1689 to 1755

The Battle of Athens Tenn 1946
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9tUQxsrQGw

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

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lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

I agree with all you say here... Puberty itself is hell on kids and it's a struggle as it is to try and guide them away from the street drugs let alone what some Dr. may do to them ...
My sisters daughter was diagnosed by the school, debeda, to be ADA and wanted her put on Ridelan (sp?) but she would not do it.. Told the school it was her age,puberty etc and that she wasn't going on that drug.. Took almost the entire school year but Ashley came around, struggle that it was they managed.. My sister has always felt the school just wanted one more zombie in class being quiet instead of talking or “disruptive..”

When I attended school you better be respectful of your Teachers and not get in trouble because It meant getting in trouble when you got home too, dang parents! Not anymore!!

We were disciplined, we had chores to do, if we didn’t do them we got in trouble. Today kids don’t even know what chores are, let alone actually do them. There is an expectation that everything is owed to them versus actually having to work for it. I think that is where parents have faltered ... guilty because you’re not home with the children they over compensate by giving them anything they want. They are taught that they are entitled to everything, shared that wealth etc.

Somewhere along the line, debeda, our children have become desensitized, Lack compassion, and care little for life itself. Look at the games that are out that teach them how to kil, how to hunt and kill and how to win at all cost....
This is also contributing, more so because they arent out being kids socializing, instead they are sitting inside the bedroom on the computer playing the game and not learning social skills and respect again...

Is it no wonder this generation coming up is lost before they ever get out?? Or that we have gangs running the streets, ready to shoot anyone and being influenced by any number of radicalism taughtin school to Radicalism of gangs.. ???

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

To the point and smooth with eloquence ..well said as most usually; Linda..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Byron, Thank You ever so much for your kind compliment..

I’ve been thinking about how so little life means anymore to so many.This troubles me and with every solution you think more and see how futile it is .. How do we Reinvent the social standards needed to keep our nation flourishing and our citizens United? Why must there be such dissension and hatred and racism and level of criminality we seem to have at this point? It seems this progress and progressivism really isn’t all it’s cracked up to be that’s for sure....

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Progressively strangled our Sovereignty is what was up

Progressive Hypocrisy has undercut our belly..Obama was/is the biggest Trojan horse ever..

It hurts my heart that we as a nation, have been deminished to the point of civil unrest..

We as a nation are now in constant need of a miracle...just like our President Donald J Trump is more timely than we could have hoped for..as more swamp dwellers are brought to light..we find that we were in the leviathans mouth..

So it almost looks like if Donald Trump goes, we all go..

Households should be righting the ship motivated by the Stark Reality of these times.

In the movie; Brother Where Art Thou..the phrase " boys we're in a tight spot" comes to mind..

Hope and pray for another miracle..

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

MS LJ, I ponder on this everyday. Having lived through two wars, seeing destruction and the loss of innocent lives. The children haunt me everyday. All for a selfish belief that they are their own Gods. Americans are spoiled. If they were to go to some of these shit hole countries and see how these people have to live, it might change their minds. We saw people living in one room huts made of mud. Heating and cooking using Camel dung. In my humble opinion in answer to your question. We don't reinvent the social standards. The standards are already established by the Constitution and in the Churches. We have to demand our elected officials uphold and honor the oath they give on a Bible. History check. Go back to 1850, follow how Congress did all that could be done to settle the issue of slavery. One party would not compromise. Then a President was elected that did all he could to hold the Union together. But still they would not compromise and it led to Civil War. I see the same now. My Dad told me when I was young, there will be another civil war in this country. Didn't understand at the time, but do now.

debeda

Good for your sister Linda she made a good, intuitive decision. I believe the way kids now are isolated in so many ways actually PROMOTES gang membership, or actually draws them to anything that has a strong fellowship and culture. Humans are pack animals and are hardwired to belong to something. Sadly with Christianity under attack on so many levels (the MSM being one of the most pervasive but social media and pop culture run a close second) the gangs, black ghetto culture, Islam and other things that are antithetical to core American culture and values are becoming more and more attractive to young people. Just to belong. And unfortunately many of these kids dont have the strong role models of parents, teachers and/or a strong family unit or neighborhood ties to counter this as we did in generations past. Partly why we're so divided as a country now, also. Sorry to go off on such a long rant, these are issues I feel strongly about.

debeda

Strong and true words. Thank you

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I'm not an ordinary citizen, I am a military veteran, there are millions of us in this country. We were trained in the use of military weapons. The American ethos, as expounded by our Founding Fathers, is that every citizen disciplined and trained to handle and shoot firearms is a soldier.

Having said that, once again, a semi-automatic AR15 IS NOT a military weapon. Not a single AR15 has ever been issued to any military personnel in our armed forces. The current standard issue battle rifle is the M4A1 select fire carbine. This weapon, in its various configurations, is capable of semi-auto fire, burst fire, and full auto fire.

It is next to impossible, I am sure, to try to educate those whose ignorance of firearms is appalling, and it is futile to try to educate those who don't want to be educated. Too goddamned emotional for anything to connect inside their skulls.

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Well said. I just don't understand how liberals, who are ignorant in firearms can tell us what an assault weapon is when they don't know the difference between a trigger and a front sight. They simply assume any rifle with a carbon fiber stock falls into that category. Of course libs have one agenda, and one agenda alone and that's the total and complete disarmament through confiscation of every law abiding citizen in the country. You can see this through the over 20,000 gun control laws by the Fed, State, City, County and Townships that are currently on the books. The liberal gun grabbing lobby is slowly chipping away at the 2nd Amendment one little law at a time. Death by a thousand cuts! We certainly don't need any more restrictive gun laws, but simply enforce the ones we are now saddled with.

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

I so agree with the pastor Ziggy.
It is a force of evil that has caused this tradegy. We moved from Tx to Tn recently and there is a lockdown here at the school and a full time officer at the school everyday. Israel has it right.
We have taken God out of everything here in America, and the devil is on the loose. It is only going to get worse!

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

[quote=Larry the Legend]Who ever said the second amendment is about 'hunting'? Does the phrase "necessary to the security of a free State" sound like a hunting term? No, it directly refers to the military role of the people in times of threat or invasion. Now tell me, do people operating in a military capacity have a requirement for military grade weapons? Here, let's fill this out so everybody 'gets it':

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Four simple phrases, each carrying a salient point without wasting or overusing a single one of its 27 words. At the time, it was plain English that any average school child could read and understand. Since it was penned, the meaning of some of those words have been twisted to mean something else entirely. For instance:

"[W]ell regulated" used to mean 'in good working order' or 'properly equipped'. Of course, that has been twisted around to have a different meaning entirely in the intervening 220+ years: 'Control or supervise (something) by means of rules and regulations'. So we go from 'properly equipped' to 'legally controlled and supervised'. Curious, but that's not all:

Now we come to the phrase "being necessary to the security of a free State". Let's define a few words here:
Necessary: Required to be done, achieved, or present; needed; essential.
Security: Free from danger or threat.
Free: Not under the control or in the power of another; able to act or be done as one wishes.
State: A nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.

Thus far, we have 'a properly equipped populace, essential to ensure freedom from danger or threat, acting under their own volition in the nation or territory considered as an organized political community'... Wow. That's a lot to pack into just a few words, and we're not even halfway there. Moving on, next, we have:

"[T]he right of the people to keep and bear Arms".

Precisely as written, "the right of the people", not a 'suggestion' or a 'privilege', or a 'license', but a right. So what is a 'right'? Glad you asked, let's peruse a few more definitions:
Right: A moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something, or to act in a certain way.
People: The men, women, and children of a particular nation, community, or ethnic group.
Keep: Have or retain possession of.
Bear: (of a person) Carry.
Arms: Weapons and ammunition; armaments.

Wow, this 'interpreting' stuff is tricky, isn't it? So, let's 'interpret:

'The moral or legal entitlement of the men, women and children of the nation, community or ethnic group, to have or retain possession of, and carry weapons and ammunition or armaments...'

There's another big statement in so few words, isn't it? But we're still not done, now for the 'Pièce De Résistance', the final flourish, the prohibition of government action:

"[S]hall not be infringed."

Just one more definition from this:

Infringed: Acted so as to limit or undermine (something); encroached on.

One last interpretation: 'Shall not be undermined or encroached on'. In other words: Don't even go there!

So now we have the 'common sense' 'interpretation' of the second amendment as not subsequently amended.

In summary, the second amendment is not about 'hunting' or 'sports', it's all about defense. Defense of the person and, by extrapolation, the State. Not only that, but the State itself is prohibited from interfering in the right of the populace to arm and equip itself sufficiently for those purposes. Taking all of this into account, who now thinks that we, any of us, or indeed all of us, could be legally barred from owning and carrying any form of weapon our little hearts should desire? Large or small, concealed or not; at work, at school or in the courtroom, there is no limit to "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" because it "shall not be infringed". And remember:[/quote]

Yep. Beware of those trying to disarm the population.
I read from some one heree, that the shooter had conectionss to the deep state. Lived with an agent?
He heard voices in his head? On then off drugs.
something is not jiving with the official version. Reports of students hearing additional gun fire away from Mr Lonely.

Singularity

There was never a god in charge.Believing that only allows you to sit on your hands and contemplate the fact that your Second Amendment defense of some dim theoretical right to mount an armed Insurrection against the American government is more important to you right now in this second than the actual present lives of every one of America's very real breathing children.

Shame!

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

"In a pigs eye"..